McNabb, Boller ought to kick your a$$!!!

[yeahravens]

Donovan McNabb said on the Byrant Gumble show that black quarterbacks are under more pressure and more criticism than their white counterparts. At the same time Kyle Boller threw a bottle through his big screen and then passed out.

This is coming out of the mouth of a guy whose QB rating went from 106 in the first 2 gamesof 2006 to 68 in '07. Gee, I wonder if that has anything to do with some of the criticism??? Maybe, just maybe, it could have something to do with the fact that you are hearing it from the Santa booing Eagle fans?

Look, if you were someone working two jobs and clearly a better employee and were being put down, I would have some empathy for you. But the fact is crybaby, you are playing a kids game and making millions!!!!! Grow up! Walk a mile in Kyle Boller's shoes you jerk! He played to a QB rating of over 101 last year and was still hated! Kyle Boller could bring a baby out of a burning house and still get criticized for dropping it on the way out (just kidding).

I guess I am just getting sick of the gratuitous use of that card. Who blasted McNabb the worst? T.O.!!! He's not white! Was Donovan consumed with what people were saying about him in the last few minutes of the Super Bowl, and then ralphed on the field??? Dude, just shut up! You are coming off a bad knee injury and aren't yourself yet, stop getting mad that people are pointing that out.

Also, he might consider that he has been reveered as one of the best in the NFL and the horse that carried that team, until Jeff Garcia came in and played over his head and took them to the playoffs. Let's take T.O. as a good example of what I am saying and let's compare the criticism from T.O. on the two QB's. One apparantly couldn't handle the pressure of the big game, and the other is GAY!!!! Yeah clearly I see what you are saying Donovan.

Also comparing your reviews to Tom Brady's and Carson Palmer's reviews should start and stop at the statistics. If Tom Brady was black, red, gay, Al Queida, a convict, a demon, or one of the guy's who nailed Jesus to the cross, I still would want him over most any QB in the NFL. Carson Palmer came back from the same injury as McNabb and so far has played much better, which is ussually the basis of criticism.

Bottom line is that Kyle Boller should get a lawyer and file suit against him for that comment. What about Grbac? We made him cry! McNair has played terribly in our last 2 losses, and all we talk about is the rest of the team and the coach.

Donovan, please, take it back, you sound like a crybaby and are taking the use of that card away from those who truly need it. You make millions, you play in Philly, you are not fully recovered, and will come back to play great again soon, so in the meantime, shut it!

[pyite32]

McNabb: “Lousy Quarterbacks Criticized More Than Good Quarterbacks”
Philadelphia Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb gave a controversial interview on HBO’s “Real Sports” on Tuesday night, saying he believes mediocre NFL quarterbacks receive much more criticism than good NFL quarterbacks.

“Lousy quarterbacks have to do a little bit extra,” said McNabb. “No one is ever happy. There’s always pressure to be better, pressure to be more than lousy. Good, even. It gets tiring after a while.”

McNabb said he has long noticed that fans always include criticism with their praise of him.

“It doesn’t matter if I complete a pass, people are always asking me about the four incompletions before that,” said McNabb. “About how I overthrew Brian Westbrook on a four-yard route, or I how I somehow threw the ball right into the ground even though L.J. Smith was a few feet away from me. Or how I threw up all over the ball and then fumbled it. I mean – what, I can’t get nauseous? I have to be good and have an iron stomach, too? See what I mean? The expectations are ridiculous.”



Pressed by HBO interviewer James Brown, McNabb was asked if he thinks the media is as tough on quarterbacks such as Carson Palmer and Peyton Manning.

“Let me start by saying I love those guys,” said McNabb, “but they don’t get criticized as much as we do. They don’t. I think it’s probably because they are very good and I’m not.”

McNabb said that as a student of football history, he knows that poor NFL quarterbacks have had it tougher than good NFL quarterbacks for decades.

“There’s a definite track record there, a certain mindset, and that is difficult to overcome,” said McNabb. “Look at the Hall of Fame, for example – only good quarterbacks are in there: Johnny Unitas, Dan Marino, Warren Moon. The rest of us are excluded. No one can tell me there isn’t a double standard there. If you’re not good, no one respects you.”

In light of the Eagles making a quarterback, Kevin Kolb, the team’s first pick in April’s draft, McNabb believes his days are numbered in Philadelphia.

“They’re trying to blackball me just because I’m not a top-flight quarterback,” said McNabb. “I bet if this kid proves to be better than me, they’ll play him in front of me, totally proving me theory that lousy quarterbacks have it harder than good quarterbacks.”

[Greg]

Nobody, and I mean NOBODY has been ripped more in the national media for his skills on the field than Boller. Think back to when he was our starter and struggling. The Sharpes, et al wore him out. McNabb has NEVER gotten that kind of work over.

RACK pyite32.

[Losac]

Nobody, and I mean NOBODY has been ripped more in the national media for his skills on the field than Boller.

Rex Grossman might have something to say about that.

[Mr.Boh]

Rex Grossman might have something to say about that.
And Joey Harrington might have something to say about that.

[Greg]

Really, I haven't heard anybody make a joke like Sharpe's. Lest we forget: “I've got a better chance of winning the Kentucky Derby on the back of a donkey than they have of winning the Super Bowl with Kyle Boller.”

[Losac]

Did you watch any of the national media leading up to and following last year's Super Bowl? All I heard was talk and jokes about Grossman not being able to come through in the big game.

No one's saying Boller hasn't taken a huge amount of criticism from the national and local media, but to say no one has been ripped as much as he has is a little bit of an overstatement.

[psuasskicker]

I agree with all this stuff, but to be fair to McNabb, this interview was done before the season started...

- C -

[The Fanatic]

Did you watch any of the national media leading up to and following last year's Super Bowl? All I heard was talk and jokes about Grossman not being able to come through in the big game.

No one's saying Boller hasn't taken a huge amount of criticism from the national and local media, but to say no one has been ripped as much as he has is a little bit of an overstatement.

Eh, they said the same stuff about Peyton Manning for years until he actually up and won the big game.

Marino still gets crticism for not being able to win a Superbowl and his ass has been retired for how many years now?

I don't know if Boller has taken more crap then any other QB, but he is definitely within the top 3-5 in history IMO.

Not many QBs have had their home town crowd cheer when they got hurt.

I'd like to think that that is a lower blow then anything a media member can lay out.

Half if not more couldn't handle the amount of crap Boller has had to take without melting down.

Shit, Peyton Manning called out his offensive line last year IIRC because the media was critical of him one game.
Freakin' Pussy!!!

Boller certainly may not ever be as good as some of these QBs in discussion from a physical and talent stand point, but I'd put his mental toughness up against any of them.

[Ravens0587]

Boller certainly may not ever be as good as some of these QBs in discussion from a physical and talent stand point, but I'd put his mental toughness up against any of them.


Along with physical toughness, this guy since day 1 has been constantly hit and every single time he gets back like a fighter.

Never have I seen him pull a grbac

[Tspot-D-Ravenator]

Along with physical toughness, this guy since day 1 has been constantly hit and every single time he gets back up like a fighter.

Never have I seen him pull a grbac

:iagree:

[Kevlar]

If Bolller was black he'd already be out of a job. Anthony Wright put up numbers just as good as Boller ever did, and the guy was villified by the fans here, calling him Radio Wright. Give me a break, McNabb was spot on. Boller is a poor QB, yet fans gush all over him because he tries real hard.

[yeahravens]

Can't see what? Color? Or the fact that he was the typical 1st round QB, showed brilliance but a SB win is still out there? That is sooooo typical of the sports media. Take off your shades and go read past press on Marino, Elway, Manning, etc. It is the same, but he wants to call people out for racism. That is the thing that irritates me, because when that happens in the ussual ambiguous manner that it does (no hard proof or list of examples) it calls me narrow minded and a hater. Hello, that is an insult in case you don't see it! Do you understand that, and why it is upsetting? To throw the racist card in such a manner is painting that broad stroke on all white people UNLESS specific people are mentioned. That my friend is hypocracy and I personally am sick of it.

[ExiledRaven]

McNabb plays in Philly. Philly fans love their teams, but they are probably some of the most brutal fans in all of football. Everyone knows they booed Santa.

Now imagine the QB throws a couple picks and has 2 bad games in a row. That makes them more angry than Michael Irvin's career ending made them happy.

[Sports Steve]

This whole statement by McNabb just shows he doesn't have a clue what's going on. I thought McNabb had more class then that. At least Boller takes his on the chin and doesn't fire back with something so stupid as Mcnabb's statement.

McNabb has to feel the pressure now and will continue with remarks like he made.

:jester: :jester:

[StingerNLG]

If Bolller was black he'd already be out of a job. Anthony Wright put up numbers just as good as Boller ever did, and the guy was villified by the fans here, calling him Radio Wright. Give me a break, McNabb was spot on. Boller is a poor QB, yet fans gush all over him because he tries real hard.

That's BS. Wright was a backup QB before, he's still a backup QB now. Boller was the starter, and looky here, got benched and replaced by........a black QB.

So you can toss that theory out the window.

I would also BTW disagree that Boller gets ripped more in the national media than other QB's. The fact is that no one really cares outside of Baltimore. And Boller still has his supporters. Deion Sanders on NFL Replay after the game Sunday night said he always supported Boller and said right on air he has the tools to be a good QB. Joe Theismann has always liked him as well. Shannon Sharpe's comments aren't echoed across the sportscaster's world like you'd like to think. No one cares.


As far as national media goes, McNabb has had plenty of backers as well. When the whole TO thing went down, the national media circled the wagons around McNabb to keep him above the fray. I rarely hear McNabb criticized outside of Philly, especially since he's been a playoff QB for so long.

Look at how much Manning has been ripped in the media for "not winning the big one". Eli took quite a beating at the end of last year too. Anyone remember the media beatings guys like John Elway and Jake Plummer got?

Honestly, and I have ALWAYS been a Donovan McNabb fan ALWAYS, I believe he's using this to deflect the fact that he's not the same QB as he used to be.

[Hook]

That's BS. Wright was a backup QB before, he's still a backup QB now. Boller was the starter, and looky here, got benched and replaced by........a black QB.

Boller was Benched by a better caliber of a qb who went 13-3 last season but for some reason fans are calling for Boller to start. AW and Boller are both Backups now yet AW was here trying to be a starter was called racist names such as Radio, a retarded football hand.

The theory is valid.

[StingerNLG]

Boller was Benched by a better caliber of a qb who went 13-3 last season but for some reason fans are calling for Boller to start. AW and Boller are both Backups now yet AW was here trying to be a starter was called racist names such as Radio, a retarded football hand.

The theory is valid.

Yes or no, is Steve McNair black?

And Anthony Wright has never competed for a starting job here, Dallas, or Cincy, yes or no?

Did the national media call Anthony Wright names, yes or no?

The rest of your post you can save for the QB Debate forum. Do any of you who keep trying to derail threads with the anti-Boller crap wonder why your little reputation dot is red, or in some cases red all the way across the screen?? Give it a rest already.

[Hook]

The reason for the red dot is because when I type out my response I kept hitting enter and it came out looking like a poem but on my end it doesnt look that way until I look at it after coming out of the text area where i write my response. Thats the reason why i got a red dot next to my. It has nothing to do with my qb prefrence. I like both i just favor Mcnair because he is more experienced.




Yes or no, is Steve McNair black?
are you asking or telling me this?


And Anthony Wright has never competed for a starting job here, Dallas, or Cincy, yes or no?
And neither has Boller yet Wright was a starter in Dallas and in Baltimore. Whats the point? and dont forget going into the 2003 playoff Boller was ready to come back but AW was the starter, is that not competition? Yes or no?


The rest of your post you can save for the QB Debate forum.
Which part is that? And how did I derail this thread. WTF?

[Art-Florida]

Boller was Benched by a better caliber of a qb who went 13-3 last season but for some reason fans are calling for Boller to start. AW and Boller are both Backups now yet AW was here trying to be a starter was called racist names such as Radio, a retarded football hand.

The theory is valid.

'Radio' is a racist name? Unbeievable. These days, everybody is a victim. Poor baby, all those millions don't ease the pain, huh? Pay me what these clowns are getting and you can call me anything you want. Cry me a river.

[Mista T]

Why can't some resist turning a sports discussion into a discussion of race? :thumbdown:

10 ... 9 ... 8 ... 7 .... 6 ... 5 ... 4 ............

[StingerNLG]

Apparently I really do need to redo my ignore list.

So before I put you back on it hook, let me explain this to you.


The reason for the red dot is because when I type out my response I kept hitting enter and it came out looking like a poem but on my end it doesnt look that way until I look at it after coming out of the text area where i write my response. Thats the reason why i got a red dot next to my.

Somehow I doubt this.



Are you asking or telling me this?

I guess since you don't know McNair is a black QB I'm telling you. :grbac:



And neither has Boller yet Wright was a starter in Dallas and in Baltimore. Whats the point? and dont forget going into the 2003 playoff Boller was ready to come back but AW was the starter, is that not competition? Yes or no?

Thanks for missing the question. Your attempt to turn this into a QB performance thread is well noted.



Which part is that? And how did I derail this thread. WTF?

See above, and your last post. This thread, last I checked, was about McNabb mouthing off about how much more criticized black Quarterbacks are in the league. You manage to attempt to bring your McNair is better than Boller nonsense in here, when that wasn't the point of the thread. And now you've got a couple of us having to respond to you. So you have derailed the thread.

Congratulations, and welcome back to the ignore list.

[StingerNLG]

Why can't some resist turning a sports discussion into a discussion of race? :thumbdown:

10 ... 9 ... 8 ... 7 .... 6 ... 5 ... 4 ............

Unfortunately T, McNabb did it. He brought race right into the forefront with his complaint. Thread trolls like Hook aside, the idea that black QB's are more heavily scrutinized because of their color is a rediculous notion. And McNabb actually hasn't been the target of that outside of Philly, so I'm not even sure where he gets off complaining about it.

That's how this turned to race.

[The Fanatic]

Look at how much Manning has been ripped in the media for "not winning the big one". Eli took quite a beating at the end of last year too.


As far as I'm concerned, Eli deserves any ass kicking the media decides to dish out.

He got what he wanted on draft day when he refused to go play for San Diego.
That kind of crap really chaps my ass!!

Your a damn green behind the ears college football player given a chance to go earn millions of dollars strickly based on your college carreer and NFL potential, and you're going to refuse a team that wants you?

Look at his ass now!!

Plays for a suck ass team with a dick for a coach, and hasn't proven to be worth what he got paid.

I wish him nothing but eternal failure in the NFL

Who in their right mind wouldn't want to go to freakin' San Diego?

[highwater]

I actually like McNabb and don't know what he was thinking when he made these comments, but many sports columnists have already called him out for it, stating facts, not just opinions. For example, I think someone pointed out that three of the top four highest paid QBs are African American, so it's not as though they are victims of discrimination right now. Vince Young has already disagreed with McNabb's opinion, pointing out (correctly, IMO) that all QBs are subject to intense scrutiny and criticism. Boller and Troy Smith said the same thing yesterday. It's the position, not the race.

I think the reason McNair didn't want to discuss this subject is because he knows McNabb is wrong, but he doesn't want to say it (like Young and Smith basically did).

This should really be a non-issue in this day and age. There are too many examples to cite to bother refuting it. Times have changed.

[Hook]

Apparently I really do need to redo my ignore list.

So before I put you back on it hook, let me explain this to you.

Who gives a flying F about your ignore list? Keep that to yourself Cheeseman, I really dont give a crap.

[StingerNLG]

As far as I'm concerned, Eli deserves any ass kicking the media decides to dish out.

He got what he wanted on draft day when he refused to go play for San Diego.
That kind of crap really chaps my ass!!

Reminded me of John Elway. Another man I will never be a fan of.


Your a damn green behind the ears college football player given a chance to go earn millions of dollars strickly based on your college carreer and NFL potential, and you're going to refuse a team that wants you?

Well, the only defense Eli can use is that his daddy didn't want him to play for San Diego. I believe it was Archie who was bent out of shape about all this.

The thing is, Eli is overrated. He always has been. He came into the league as a top draft pick because of his last name.



Plays for a suck ass team with a dick for a coach, and hasn't proven to be worth what he got paid.

I wish him nothing but eternal failure in the NFL

Who in their right mind wouldn't want to go to freakin' San Diego?


Drew Brees.

[RAVENOUS52]

Only my fellow Ravens fans can turn a D. McNabb thread into a Kyle hater/hugger thread...LOL

Listen.

As a human being who has travelled nearly the entire expanse of this little ball of dirt we call Earth, I can tell you one thing with certainty:

Racism and prejudice against any and everyone STILL EXISTS.

That doesn't mean that any one race or group of people are exempt from the label, nor should they be painted with the broad brush whenever others of their ilk choose to exhibit those unsavory qualities-- be it overtly or covertly.

Given the rocky history of black QBs over the years in football, it's not out of the realm of possibility that what McNabb perceives may be true to some extent. Until we've walked a mile in that man's cleats, there's no way we can definitively judge the accuracy of his statement.

And after all, everyone is entitled to an opinion, which is all he expressed. After all these years I still sense a level of tension from many on the board when threads of a racial nature pop up. That in itself should tell you that everything isn't yet "hunky-dorey" when the topic causes instant denial and in-fighting whever it is brought up.

I personally could give two shits what race you are as long as the beer is cold and the crab cakes are hot! Hell, my homeboy Baltimore Greg is part French and my mentor Mista T is Greek and we all kick it at the tailgate lot and have a great time without any cross-burning or noose-hangings.

I guess what I'm saying is, I wish everybody could be more like us...:D

[crazyraven]

Do any of you who keep trying to derail threads with the anti-Boller crap wonder why your little reputation dot is red, or in some cases red all the way across the screen??
I remember Gregs reputation became red, He got pissed and then he set his reputation points so that it could never happen again. I was also a victim of getting my points set to -6000. Admittly i was a little upset about it but after a while i found that the people with the most venom use this feature. It means nothing. if you notice most posters who speak out againt boller have a little red dot. Big deal if yours in green if you can preset your rep or get your friends to give favorable rep points.

[StingerNLG]

Admittly i was a little upset about it but after a while i found that the people with the most venom use this feature.

Including you.


if you notice most posters who speak out againt boller have a little red dot.

PP is pretty against Boller. He's got 3 green dots. Hmmmmmmm. Wonder why.......


Big deal if yours in green if you can preset your rep or get your friends to give favorable rep points.

Or, instead of conspiracy theories and calling people names and such, you contribute to the board in a productive way, and people give you good rep. Amazing how that works.

[darb72]

Are there racist folks out there? Sure. To deny it would be stupid and pointless.

Are black QBs judged by different standards is the question though. I'll just have to agree with Vince Young about QB being the highest profile posistion on the field. It doesn't matter if you're a sure fire HOF, people are going to rip you a new one.

[crazyraven]

Or, instead of conspiracy theories and calling people names and such, you contribute to the board in a productive way, and people give you good rep. Amazing how that works.
You may want to sit back and say I'm giving a conspiracy theory but the fact is my reputation was set to -6000 by the mods as a joke. I know it, they know it, and I have a feeling deep down you know it too. You can scream conspiracy theory all you want, I laugh at it. Fact is, I spoken to the mods and they knocked it down to a lower more reasonable number but still I dont deserve that number but whatever.

As far as calling people names I've done it in the past and never had any incidents or run in with the mods, just recently I had a infraction. For the most part its understood not to be personal. If i had a dime for every time I've been insulted on these boards I'd have a few dimes in my pocket. Coincidence or Conspiracy? Who knows? Its My bad.. no matter...I need to be extra extra careful. That is until Boller is winning on a consistent basis. Then your a "contributer" when you praise the guy for doing well. Dont believe me go take a look at the where is everybody thread.

Calling people pinheads and kidding around with a few people who i haven't seen seems to have ruffles some peoples feathers. I officially apologize FWIW. However I've seen worse by others and nothing has been said or reported. Others can stalk me after every single post and call me stupid or ungodly names and its No biggie I'm not reporting anyone, like I said its not a two way street. I need be super careful. and the funny thing is I have been trying.


Including you.
Now I can sit here and say conspiracy but that's your shtick. Honestly I dont use the feature.


PP is pretty against Boller. He's got 3 green dots. Hmmmmmmm. Wonder why.......
PP has been lumped in with the haters by huggers before so the 3 dot system means nothing. I applaud him. Can you sight any other who has been critical of boller with this type "3 star of rating"? I dont think you can. There is no such animal other than PP. anyway point is Up until my rating was f'd with by the mods, it was green.

[purplepoe]

Like I said before, but it got deleted McNabb and Boller are in totally different situations.

McNabb has lead his team to a superbowl and 4 NFC title games. Boller hasn't done jack,

had boller done what Mcnabb had done, he wouldn't receive the same criticism if he had struggled the first two games of one season.

and btw grow up people Boller sucks.

Dan Marino has been retired for years and the one thing that is STILL and always will be mentioned first about him was that he couldn't win the big one.

His career numbers shit on just about every other QB that has played this game minus some all time greats. Yet the dominate theme with him is that he didn't win the big one and was a choker.

John Elway wasn't not only ridiculed for his play but was made fun of for his looks as well. Remember when that stopped? WHEN HE WON. Hell, he took the Broncos to 3 Super Bowls and still got shit until they finally won.

Peyton Manning was regarded as a choker until last year.

I can go on and one with other examples if you like.

Vince Young and Troy Smith said criticism comes with the job no matter what.

The funny thing is, McNabb is pretty beloved nationally. It's really in Philly where he gets the most crap. Just like Mike Schmidt did. Schmidt was booed all the time and he's considered one of the best 3B to ever play the game.

Hell, I heard Orlando Brown on the radio yesterday saying McNabb needs to shut up.

The only thing his comments have done is created a huge media stir and distraction for his team.

PP

[yeahravens]

Are there racist folks out there? Sure. To deny it would be stupid and pointless.

Are black QBs judged by different standards is the question though. I'll just have to agree with Vince Young about QB being the highest profile posistion on the field. It doesn't matter if you're a sure fire HOF, people are going to rip you a new one.

No $hit there is racism out there but why is it the first go to excuse where ALL white people are called racists in the process???? Do you think that endears that person to the average white person? If Donovan wants to make that statement, do it with specific examples, or shut the F**K UP! If the comments hurt that bad, you should remember them. That way we could compare them to things said about the Elway's and Marino's and make the comparison. But no, the card had to be played with the normal broad stroke that makes me, my family, and my friends all racists because we are white, WTF? :insane:

[Art-Florida]

Not one person in 20 defines being a racist correctly. Racism is a positive - you are FOR something. A bigot, on the other hand, is against something.

See the difference? You should be all for your group, but that does not mean it has to be at the expense of other groups.

[MikeinGlennDale]

Street cred with his team mates. Please show me the millions of dollars so I can complain about how they talk about me.

[Greg]

Hell, my homeboy Baltimore Greg is part French . . .
50% Cajun.


I remember Gregs reputation became red, He got pissed and then he set his reputation points so that it could never happen again.
Not true, not at all close to the truth, my reputation was positive when I changed it to 100,000 or whatever just to be funny. It has never been red, never.

Here are all of the reputations I have had left for me.
RavenTD Greg 18:33, 16th Aug 2006 1 My ribs kinda hurt.
skimmy Greg 19:54, 19th Aug 2006 1
DRayRaven Greg 19:12, 24th Aug 2006 1
RavensDomination Greg 11:15, 25th Aug 2006 1
Mobtown Greg 12:47, 26th Aug 2006 -1 You can change the name of the board, but you are still a stubborn SOB
crowdog89 Greg 16:11, 5th Sep 2006 1 Made me laugh...I needed it.
RavensInBrazil Greg 10:31, 8th Sep 2006 1
StingerNLG Greg 16:23, 18th Sep 2006 1 There is nothing like watching Greg make sense.
Ravens0587 Greg 23:28, 13th Mar 2007 -1 libertarian my ass
papjohn Greg 12:18, 15th Mar 2007 1
papjohn Greg 17:06, 29th Mar 2007 1
StingerNLG Greg 01:31, 6th Aug 2007 1
crazyraven Greg 14:42, 31st Aug 2007 0 I understand where you are going with this but it fucked up...your a god damn moderator. Get a life dude, cut the guy some slack.

The best one is the guy who yacked me about being a Libertarian in a thread where I was stating personal responsibility was very important, in this case when fathering children. This came up in a Tom Brady thread. Libertarianism is all about personal responsibility and not leaving children fatherless, even if you can write a fat check. Anywho . . .


You may want to sit back and say I'm giving a conspiracy theory but the fact is my reputation was set to -6000 by the mods as a joke.
That is true, and when you complained I set it back to what it was, I made notes of the ones I changed before I changed them. I obviously won't post your reputation notes, you can see them for yourself. What you have now is exactly what has been left for you by others. EXACTLY, not enhanced by me or anybody else one bit.

Just clarifying.

[crazyraven]

Thats interesting that you can see who wrote you your reps.

Oopps.... did i say I dont use the feature.

anyway I saw your dot as red then a day later you had a large line of green dots and I had a large line of red ones. you set your clock to 100,000 to get a few laughs? come on admit it you set it up so that you couldnt have anyone change your rep.

anyway it was green before you screwed with it. I'd like for you to set it back to green if you could.

Thanks bro :thumbup:

[Greg]

Those are the EXACT reputation comments and points I have gotten. Again, I at no time had a negative reputation.

Yours is exactly where it should be, you have earned what you have.

I can see your reputation comments as well, so can you, and you know damn well you have earned what you have.

[RAVENOUS52]

Thank God this is only the Internet...:grbac:

[crazyraven]

I can only see the last five responses i dont have the administrative power to look at all of my rep responses. Aside from the last person who jumped in I had 3 positive and 2 negative. So there is no way of telling what Ive actually earned. You fucked with my rep greg, you even admited so. You set my rep points to -6000 for absolutely no reason. This was a few months back and I was minding my own business when you started to get your jollys. and thats fine live it up.

It would be cool if you would set it back to a positive number. But if you dont no sweat, all I can do is voice my displeasure with your actions. and thats ok, You have your ways of being a PITA and I have mine.

[Greg]

Once again, I set your reputation back to where it was before I did anything. Squeeling like a stuck pig won't get you any further with me.

[crazyraven]

WTF? this has been a dead issue with me. this is like so 5 days ago. Your the one who is squealing like a pig. but since you brought it back up the fact is you did fuck with my rep points. You admited so and It was green before you touch it. Period.

[tex_fan]

Donovan McNabb said on the Byrant Gumble show that black quarterbacks are under more pressure and more criticism than their white counterparts. At the same time Kyle Boller threw a bottle through his big screen and then passed out.

This is coming out of the mouth of a guy whose QB rating went from 106 in the first 2 gamesof 2006 to 68 in '07. Gee, I wonder if that has anything to do with some of the criticism??? Maybe, just maybe, it could have something to do with the fact that you are hearing it from the Santa booing Eagle fans?

Look, if you were someone working two jobs and clearly a better employee and were being put down, I would have some empathy for you. But the fact is crybaby, you are playing a kids game and making millions!!!!! Grow up! Walk a mile in Kyle Boller's shoes you jerk! He played to a QB rating of over 101 last year and was still hated! Kyle Boller could bring a baby out of a burning house and still get criticized for dropping it on the way out (just kidding).

I guess I am just getting sick of the gratuitous use of that card. Who blasted McNabb the worst? T.O.!!! He's not white! Was Donovan consumed with what people were saying about him in the last few minutes of the Super Bowl, and then ralphed on the field??? Dude, just shut up! You are coming off a bad knee injury and aren't yourself yet, stop getting mad that people are pointing that out.

Also, he might consider that he has been reveered as one of the best in the NFL and the horse that carried that team, until Jeff Garcia came in and played over his head and took them to the playoffs. Let's take T.O. as a good example of what I am saying and let's compare the criticism from T.O. on the two QB's. One apparantly couldn't handle the pressure of the big game, and the other is GAY!!!! Yeah clearly I see what you are saying Donovan.

Also comparing your reviews to Tom Brady's and Carson Palmer's reviews should start and stop at the statistics. If Tom Brady was black, red, gay, Al Queida, a convict, a demon, or one of the guy's who nailed Jesus to the cross, I still would want him over most any QB in the NFL. Carson Palmer came back from the same injury as McNabb and so far has played much better, which is ussually the basis of criticism.

Bottom line is that Kyle Boller should get a lawyer and file suit against him for that comment. What about Grbac? We made him cry! McNair has played terribly in our last 2 losses, and all we talk about is the rest of the team and the coach.

Donovan, please, take it back, you sound like a crybaby and are taking the use of that card away from those who truly need it. You make millions, you play in Philly, you are not fully recovered, and will come back to play great again soon, so in the meantime, shut it!
Very true, no QB is as hated by his own fans as Kyle Boller in modern day NFL, maybe REx Grossman but still I commend Kyle for taking it all and still trying to make a name for himself in a city where he is hated so passionately.