Hit on Heap

[HoustonRaven]

Someone a while back asked for the video on the Heap hit during the AZ game.

I was able to find a good shot of it .... go to iTunes and DL the game recap. Towards the end of the recap, they have a slow-mo shot of the hit and its very clear there was helmet to helmet contact.

The Refs got one right for us for a change! :thumbup:

[Galen Sevinne]

This play was one of the three weekly calls they review on NFL Network with Periera (sp?). He said the call was right but it was not helmet to helmet. The call was made because the d-back came in with a forearm to heap's "neck and head area" which is a penalty. The old "forearm shiver" on a defensiveless receiver is a no-no.

This was the third week in a row a Heap catch was analyzed in this segment. I wonder what it will be this week?

[HoustonRaven]

This play was one of the three weekly calls they review on NFL Network with Periera (sp?). He said the call was right but it was not helmet to helmet. The call was made because the d-back came in with a forearm to heap's "neck and head area" which is a penalty. The old "forearm shiver" on a defensiveless receiver is a no-no.

This was the third week in a row a Heap catch was analyzed in this segment. I wonder what it will be this week?

I think we're both right ....

It's pretty clear on the angle iTunes has that their helmets hit. The forearm is blocked because of the angle thought. Either way, it was a totally unnecessary hit.

[yeahravens]

As I stated in an earlier post, sitting in the endzone, it was clearly a cheap shot. He would up and led with the forearm and followed through with it, not his shoulder. It was the same view the ref had.

[shaslers]

I posted the Pereira clip on YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Hd0oytBUew). Also on my video is a clip of the hit Ray Lewis made on Troy Bienemann. Cards fans claimed it was just as dirty. You'll see that's not the case. Ray leads with neither helmet nor forearm. On the video you'll also see the ticky-tack calls on Williams and Darling.

There is a second clip of the 55-yard fumble recovery by Ivy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcC2HS-ff1A) after the onsides kick, where Ivy stripped Fitzgerald. Refs called down by contact but you'll clearly see no one touched Ivy after he gained possession of the ball.

[HoustonRaven]

I posted the Pereira clip on YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Hd0oytBUew). Also on my video is a clip of the hit Ray Lewis made on Troy Bienemann. Cards fans claimed it was just as dirty. You'll see that's not the case. Ray leads with neither helmet nor forearm. On the video you'll also see the ticky-tack calls on Williams and Darling.

There is a second clip of the 55-yard fumble recovery by Ivy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcC2HS-ff1A) after the onsides kick, where Ivy stripped Fitzgerald. Refs called down by contact but you'll clearly see no one touched Ivy after he gained possession of the ball.

Nice videos!

The Fox view that iTunes is showing as the game recap shows a different angle. I think the defender did both forearm and had some helmet contact. Heaps head clearly snaps back before the arm comes up towards his shoulder and chin.

Finally some calls go our way!

[Galen Sevinne]

On the video you'll also see the ticky-tack calls on Williams and Darling.

The call on DWill was "okay" because the NFL has made it clear that spike or flipping the ball after a catch will be a delay of the game. I have a problem with the fact that Bolden then did it in the 4th qtr. with no flag and I saw similar flips of the ball in other games later in the day without a flag. The refs have to be consistent. It is the same with Darlings jump into the crowd. He was really jumping on Figurs...seems kind of tough to call that every time consistently but the players know these rules so regardless of how petty they seem, they are in the books.

[shaslers]

I have a problem with the fact that Bolden then did it in the 4th qtr. with no flag and I saw similar flips of the ball in other games later in the day without a flag. The refs have to be consistent. It is the same with Darlings jump into the crowd. He was really jumping on Figurs

That's why I call them ticky-tack. I specifically recall seeing receivers in the preseason spin the ball and it was never called. (I also saw Haloti Ngata recover a fumble and spike it in the preseason, and even that was not called). And I agree that Darling never went into the stands, he went on Figurs' back when Figurs was over the rail.

Whatever, I guess.

[Tspot-D-Ravenator]

That's why I call them ticky-tack. I specifically recall seeing receivers in the preseason spin the ball and it was never called. (I also saw Haloti Ngata recover a fumble and spike it in the preseason, and even that was not called). And I agree that Darling never went into the stands, he went on Figurs' back when Figurs was over the rail.

Whatever, I guess.

I was watching the Redskins game and Randle El flipped and spun the ball when he made that huge catch at about the 3 yard line near the end of the game and they never called that:nerd:

[MikeinGlennDale]

I don't understand the call about jumping in the sidelines. Am I mistaken to think the NFL championed the "Lambeau <-sp? Leap"?

[shaslers]

It is okay for one player to do it, but for some arcane reason, the NFL decided that two players doing it constitutes a pre-orchestrated endzone celebration. I'm not sure how it's different than Chad Johnson's aborted leap into the dogpound with a player tugging his jersey in a pre-orchestrated way. Seems like they are not being consistent on the new spiking nor the new celebration rule...that is my complaint. And that makes it different than the Adrian Wilson hit. If a player launches with a forearm to the head, they are going to call it. Cardinals fans are seeing what they want to see in denying that's what Wilson did.