Kyle Boller To start sunday vs Bills

[Ravens0587]

BALTIMORE -- Steve McNair was tired of trying to play in pain. Baltimore Ravens coach Brian Billick ran out of patience waiting for the quarterback to heal.

Steve McNair

McNair

So the two agreed: McNair sits out two straight games, then steps back into the starter's role.

Kyle Boller will start at quarterback for a second straight week this Sunday in Buffalo, Baltimore's final game before a much-needed bye. McNair could play, but the Ravens would prefer he rest his lingering groin injury and sore back.

The objective is to get McNair three straight weeks off before the Ravens resume play on Nov. 5 in Pittsburgh, which leads the AFC North.

"We're confident that he will be fully healthy for Pittsburgh, and there's no circumstance I can think of that would not have him as our starter," Billick said Monday...................

Rest of the article here......didn't see it posted http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3065201

[RavensNTerps]

Not the worst thing that could happen.

The Bills are the worst team in the AFC...Don't give me all the crap about how it's a hard game and blah blah blah.

Yeah, we didn't score on offense against them last year...we also ran 3 TE sets for 2/3 of that game and, to quote a coach of ours "we didn't try (to score a TD) to be honest"

If nothing else, our defense will force 3+ turnovers...no way that Trent friggin Edwards has success against us. He couldn't even carve up a god awful Cowboys secondary, I'm not worried about this one.

And maybe, just maybe, Boller will open up the offense again next week...who knows.

[Rayvens52]

This would be a great week to get on a roll on offense, if we could score a couple of TD's, go into the bye week on a high note, maybe we will see the same outcome in pittsburgh we saw last year!!!!!!!! :)

[The Fanatic]

Not the worst thing that could happen.

The Bills are the worst team in the AFC...Don't give me all the crap about how it's a hard game and blah blah blah.

Yeah, we didn't score on offense against them last year...we also ran 3 TE sets for 2/3 of that game and, to quote a coach of ours "we didn't try (to score a TD) to be honest"

If nothing else, our defense will force 3+ turnovers...no way that Trent friggin Edwards has success against us. He couldn't even carve up a god awful Cowboys secondary, I'm not worried about this one.

And maybe, just maybe, Boller will open up the offense again next week...who knows.

Wow!!

Just Wow!!!

:grbac: :grbac: :grbac: :grbac: :grbac: :grbac:

You think that crowd was jacked up for the Dallas game?

Wait until you see what they're like when Willis walks onto the field.

Did you watch our offensive line play this Sunday?

Have you seen the lack of seperation our receivers don't get against anybody?

[Rayvens52]

Wow!!

Just Wow!!!

:grbac: :grbac: :grbac: :grbac: :grbac: :grbac:

You think that crowd was jacked up for the Dallas game?

Wait until you see what they're like when Willis walks onto the field.

Did you watch our offensive line play this Sunday?

Have you seen the lack of seperation our receivers don't get against anybody?


No you are right that crowd is going to be jacked up, but this a game we should win and win easily. I am not saying we played great last week, lets just hope practice goes real well this week. I don't see a reason we can win this one by 2 scores or more

[The Fanatic]

There's been several games so far that we probably Should have won by a nice margin, but didn't.

How anybody can think we're all the sudden going to "Break Out" into an offensive explosion against anybody is mind boggleing to me.

I'm comfortable thinking we can win this game, but not confident that we will.

You got R&T up here thinking we're gonna force 3 turnovers because of their QB situation.

By all rights, the Bills should have beat Dallas on that monday night game.

They forced turnovers against a pretty stout Dallas offense that put them in position to win.
They just couldn't close the deal.

We don't have the offense to overcome mistakes like Dallas does.



Certainly we have the defense to force mistakes, but nothing on offense to capatilize on them.

I expect this to be more like the San Fran game.

[Rayvens52]

No you are absoutly right. We should have destroyed the jets and the cards but our D slacked off in the 4th qtr, but over the last 2 weeks the D is starting to look like the D of the past, I mean 10 points in 2 weeks not to shabby. Are we going to go to Buff and kill them I hope so, but you have to admit it is sometimes fun to think we might have an offense :)

[RavensNTerps]

Wow!!

Just Wow!!!

:grbac: :grbac: :grbac: :grbac: :grbac: :grbac:

You think that crowd was jacked up for the Dallas game?

Wait until you see what they're like when Willis walks onto the field.

Did you watch our offensive line play this Sunday?

Have you seen the lack of seperation our receivers don't get against anybody?

1. Yes, the crowd was jacked up for Dallas...we won't see half of that. It was their first time on MNF in years...so what if they hate Willis, that will dissipate after pre game intros...don't kid yourself. The Atlanta crowd was also very jacked tonight. We were more than jacked when the Colts came to town last year.

2. Yes, I've seen our offensive line play. They got abused this week and played decently the week before. Billick will call a game plan that suits our position, much like last year when we beat these clowns with 3 TEs and Dwill as our dominant formation for easily half the snaps.

3. Lack of separation our WRs get against anybody? We're averaging well above 200 passing yards/game...this is an overblown thing. Mason has CONSTANTLY been getting separation, and so has Williams down the field (McNair never gets it there, and Boller underthrew it).

4. If we lose to the Bills, the season is done. The Bills are a garbage team and will be picking in the top 5. I dont' know why everyone is so fascinated with them and think that they are some kind of great underdog story. THey're beat up, they suck on offense and defense, and are starting a 3rd round pick who went like 0-16 in college.

Seriously, if you think we're going to give up more than 10 points in this game, you are nuts.

Boller won't even have a chance to throw the ball more than 15 times...book it.

PS Anthony Wright sighting, on the Giants...who knew. Also reminds me Evan Oglesby got in for the Cowboys last night...hmm.

[highwater]

Edwards is not a bad QB -- I think he's been a pleasant surprise for the Bills. He's probably better than Ferrotte, at least.

But if we don't turn the ball over, we should win easily. The Bills didn't score a single offensive TD in that Monday night game against Dallas, so it's not as if they are an offensive powerhouse. This could be another boring win, but still a win.

With respect to Boller starting and McNair resting, it sounds like a good idea for a number of reasons. It gives McNair another week to rest (two more weeks including the bye), it saves him from our suddenly shaky OL, and it gives the FO and coaches another chance to look at Boller.

[Mista T]

Boller better man up and not have his usual nervous nellie type meltdown we have all watched in horror many, many times. If they get behind early due to turnovers against Buffalo (whos defense is underated in my estimation) chalk this one up as a loss.

Now that's showing some team spirit!!!! :261695:

btw: "Glad" to see that you have returned to your old self. For awhile, when you were posting that you didn't care who started, I had thought that someone stole your computer. :rolling:

[camdenyard]

I've said it before, and I'll say it again.

If a team is not 100% prepared and motivated to put a beatdown on the opponent, often what happens is the reverse. Add to the fact that our team is pretty beat up on offense...JHC we had freaking MIKE CROTCHLICK playing TE for us on Sunday. That's pitiful. And our O doesn't scare anyone on it's best day.

There is no way the Clowns should have beaten us up just three games ago, but they did.

There is no way we shouldn't have scored a TD against a beat up 49ers squad, but we didn't.

There is no way we should have given up 6 turnovers in Cincy, but it happened.

And there is no way the 27th ranked Rams defense should have kept the Ravens to one TD. But guess what, it happened.

If we were the Patriots, I'd agree with you. But get real. We just need to get through this road game any way we can with a W.

[StingerNLG]

T, for the love of God, please stop quoting the troll. Everytime someone responds to one of his posts, he think's he wanted here. Please stop.


I've said it before, and I'll say it again.

If a team is not 100% prepared and motivated to put a beatdown on the opponent, often what happens is the reverse. Add to the fact that our team is pretty beat up on offense...JHC we had freaking MIKE CROTCHLICK playing TE for us on Sunday. That's pitiful. And our O doesn't scare anyone on it's best day.

There is no way the Clowns should have beaten us up just three games ago, but they did.

There is no way we shouldn't have scored a TD against a beat up 49ers squad, but we didn't.

There is no way we should have given up 6 turnovers in Cincy, but it happened.

And there is no way the 27th ranked Rams defense should have kept the Ravens to one TD. But guess what, it happened.

If we were the Patriots, I'd agree with you. But get real. We just need to get through this road game any way we can with a W.

No doubt. Billick needs to instill in this team that this is essentially a must-win game against an opponent in their house who is going to come out ANGRY over beating Dallas for all of 2 seconds last week, forcing 6 turnovers on Romo, and still losing the game. To me that is worse than facing a winless team. Buffalo isn't a walk-through game. They need to take this seriously.

[festivus]

We will NOT run roughshod over the Bills.

Through no fault of Billick's, or of Boller's, our OL is badly depleted by injury. Badly. We were never supposed to be starting this many rookies, including not one but *two* tackles who are perhaps better suited to the guard position.

Our OL will get harshly tested by a decent Bills defense.

I will be happy for a win but you all, on both sides of the Boller/Billick fences, need to remember the game is won and lost in the trenches, and one of our trenches is badly hobbled at the moment.

[deuce]

I am going to this game expecting a win. However, I cant believe the people who discount Buffalo and say they suck. Their schedule.

Denver
@PIT
@NE
NYJ
DAL

They beat the Jets as we did. Expected losses @ PIT & @ NE and played tight (should have beat) Denver and Dallas.

This game is no walk in the park.

[Fanman]

and don't forget Boller hasn't won on the road since sometime in 2004...I think he has lost his last 10 road starts. This game is shaping up as a loss.

FM

[HoustonRaven]

and don't forget Boller hasn't won on the road since sometime in 2004...I think he has lost his last 10 road starts. This game is shaping up as a loss.

FM

I dont think thats correct. Kyle started 9 games in 2005 and I dont think he lost all of them.

And why is it shaping up to be a loss? Kyles QB rating last year was 104.0 compared to McNair's of 82.5.

[Losac]

I dont think thats correct. Kyle started 9 games in 2005 and I dont think he lost all of them.

And why is it shaping up to be a loss? Kyles QB rating last year was 104.0 compared to McNair's of 82.5.

We went 0-8 on the road in 2005. The opening win at Tampa Bay last year was the first road win since the Jets game in 2004.

Uh, Kyle played in 2 games last year and started none. It's not entirely accurate to compare his 104 QB rating to McNair's, who started all 16 games and finished 14. Also, both of Kyle's relief appearances last year came at home (loss to Carolina and win over Cleveland).

[Rayvens52]

I dont think thats correct. Kyle started 9 games in 2005 and I dont think he lost all of them.

And why is it shaping up to be a loss? Kyles QB rating last year was 104.0 compared to McNair's of 82.5.


I couldn't agree with you more. Yes Boller has looked like crap before, and he has looked good at times. So far this year he has played pretty well and def looks more comfortable in the pocket. I don't see how we are walking into this games as a loss, it is not we have to beat them it is they have to beat us we have the better team overall despite what some people seem to think of this team. :thumbup:

[ChampRavens]

no way that Trent friggin Edwards has success against us.


Just like there was "no way Derrick Anderson would light us up"

We need to win this. This is an AFC team and we already have 2 AFC Losses. They cannot look past this game.

I believe we will win, but we have not really looked that great all year. I thought we would be a much stronger team. Losing to Derrick Anderson and the Stains is unforgivable.

God help us if they sweep us this year. That would be a debacle.

[Rayvens52]

No your right Champ I guess thats why we say on any given sunday, but the loss to the browns is easier for me to handle than losing to the bills. The browns know our team as good as anybody, i'm sure Jamal was able to give them some real helpful pointers. I am not saying we have no chance of losing to buffalo i'm just saying it is our game for the taking we would have to beat ourselves like we did in cincy to lose this one

[RavensNTerps]

no way that Trent friggin Edwards has success against us.


Just like there was "no way Derrick Anderson would light us up"

We need to win this. This is an AFC team and we already have 2 AFC Losses. They cannot look past this game.

I believe we will win, but we have not really looked that great all year. I thought we would be a much stronger team. Losing to Derrick Anderson and the Stains is unforgivable.

God help us if they sweep us this year. That would be a debacle.

OK...so in 2 years, maybe Trent Edwards would have a chance...not as a rookie...he couldn't even play well against Dallas' crap defense.

[Fanman]

why all the confidence in Boller starting on the road when he always stinks on the road? He lost all 8 road games in 2005 and I don't think he played on the road last year. Road games have been a nightmare for this kid.

Yes he is improving, but teams coming off bye weeks have a very high win %. So far this year teams are 5-3 off the bye week.

FM

[RavensNTerps]

why all the confidence in Boller starting on the road when he always stinks on the road? He lost all 8 road games in 2005 and I don't think he played on the road last year. Road games have been a nightmare for this kid.

Yes he is improving, but teams coming off bye weeks have a very high win %. So far this year teams are 5-3 off the bye week.

FM

BUT THE BILLS SUCK. WE ARE A BETTER TEAM THAN THEY ARE. IN EVERY ASPECT. IF THEY BEAT US IT WILL BE A HUGE UPSET.

I dont' get the Bills lovefest. I just don't.

It's not even an underacheiving team like the Bengals that MIGHT be dangerous...folks..we're talking about a bottom 3 AFC team. That doesn't mean that we won't lose, but it just means it would be a gigantic upset.

[Mr OC]

To win a game in the NFL on the road is still an accomplishment, I think. I worry, with all the talk about getting healthy for the Steelers, that the Ravens might look past the Bills, and i think that would be foolhardy.

[The Fanatic]

BUT THE BILLS SUCK. WE ARE A BETTER TEAM THAN THEY ARE. IN EVERY ASPECT. IF THEY BEAT US IT WILL BE A HUGE UPSET.

I dont' get the Bills lovefest. I just don't.

It's not even an underacheiving team like the Bengals that MIGHT be dangerous...folks..we're talking about a bottom 3 AFC team. That doesn't mean that we won't lose, but it just means it would be a gigantic upset.

So far, you're the only one that thinks Buffalo has absolutely no shot.

There is no love fest going on here.

What you have here is a bunch of realists(sp?) that know we're limping our way into this place to what could be a major trap game.

I don't care what round Edwards was drafted in, or what the Bills stat rankings are.

We are a wounded duck with a pathetic offense going into a hostile enviroment starting a bunch of guys that are still green behind the ears.

I would not consider losing to the Bills a huge upset.

Upset, yes.

Huge, no.

Major upsets are Stanford beating USC.

Bet you saw that upset coming, didn't you?

[highwater]

why all the confidence in Boller starting on the road when he always stinks on the road? He lost all 8 road games in 2005 and I don't think he played on the road last year. Road games have been a nightmare for this kid.

So if the Ravens win on the road with Boller at QB, will you shut the hell up and stop pretending to be a Ravens fan?

[UKRavenStockers]

Considering the 6 games following the bye week, we can't even consider losing this football game. As difficult as we may make playing on the road playing it was a poor (and injury ravaged to boot) Bills team is a game we have to win. Sure we can't look past it, we can't look past anyone.

But playing 3 divisional opponents back to back and the three divisional champions from last year is a recipe for killing a season. Much as you don't want to ponder it and much as we're not a team for long losing streaks, 0-6 through that stretch is far from out of the question and there are no off weeks in that stretch. I ran a blog entry on this stretch before the season and this six week stretch after the bye can make or break or make and break our season. Losing to Buffalo is the worst possible preparation. We have to have a win and the signs of a good performance/turnaround to launch ourselves into the bye week and this brutal stretch coming out on the other side.

[RavensNTerps]

So far, you're the only one that thinks Buffalo has absolutely no shot.

There is no love fest going on here.

What you have here is a bunch of realists(sp?) that know we're limping our way into this place to what could be a major trap game.

I don't care what round Edwards was drafted in, or what the Bills stat rankings are.

We are a wounded duck with a pathetic offense going into a hostile enviroment starting a bunch of guys that are still green behind the ears.

I would not consider losing to the Bills a huge upset.

Upset, yes.

Huge, no.

Major upsets are Stanford beating USC.

Bet you saw that upset coming, didn't you?

No, I didn't...hence why it was a major upset...just like I dont' see us losing to the Bills and if we do it will be a major upset.

They are one of the 4 worst teams in the NFL, with the Rams, Dolphins and Falcons. I like them, they're a good story and all that, but they suck and we shouldn't lose to them. It's not a trap game, either IMO, because it's followed by the bye week.

A trap game is like playing them the week before you play the Steelers, Colts, etc.

Is it possible we'll lose? Sure. But it is extremely unlikely.

[Ravens'N'Hoos]

It wouldn't be a MAJOR upset if we lost. We're only favored by 3.

Look, you can trot out their statistical rankings (which mean little in Week 7, especially looking at their schedule to date), but if you've watched any of their games (and I've watched several), you can see they play with a lot of toughness for a bunch of mostly no-name players.

Their defensive strength is their pass-rush. I shudder to think what will happen with Schobel, a pro-bowler, matched up on Gaither, rushing Boller, who usually panics under pressure particularly in a hostile environment on the road. Their secondary is also coming along.

Offensively we get a bit of a break with Edwards, who lacks Losman's arm and thus the opportunity to burn us with Lee Evans (as they did last year), with C-Mac out. But Edwards also has better pocket awareness and presence than Losman.

And this will be a hostile environment. Imagine how we felt about Joey Porter for so many years, multiply it by 10, and that's how they feel about McGahee. Word of advice - if you go, wear a jersey, but not McGahee's. He is thoroughly, absolutely despised up there. It's not going to let up after the intros. I hope he's the kind of player who thrives on hostility.

This will be another ugly, low-scoring game. It's going to come down to who turns it over less. Unlike McNair, Boller has a fumbling problem when under pressure WHEN HEALTHY. I hope - MAN do I hope - that he has a great game and maybe this is coming-out party that we thought those late 2005 games could have been. We need this. We can't go into the 2nd half schedule with 3 losses and hope to make the playoffs. But don't ignore the challenge here.

[RavensNTerps]

It wouldn't be a MAJOR upset if we lost. We're only favored by 3.

Look, you can trot out their statistical rankings (which mean little in Week 7, especially looking at their schedule to date), but if you've watched any of their games (and I've watched several), you can see they play with a lot of toughness for a bunch of mostly no-name players.

Their defensive strength is their pass-rush. I shudder to think what will happen with Schobel, a pro-bowler, matched up on Gaither, rushing Boller, who usually panics under pressure particularly in a hostile environment on the road. Their secondary is also coming along.

Offensively we get a bit of a break with Edwards, who lacks Losman's arm and thus the opportunity to burn us with Lee Evans (as they did last year), with C-Mac out. But Edwards also has better pocket awareness and presence than Losman.

And this will be a hostile environment. Imagine how we felt about Joey Porter for so many years, multiply it by 10, and that's how they feel about McGahee. Word of advice - if you go, wear a jersey, but not McGahee's. He is thoroughly, absolutely despised up there. It's not going to let up after the intros. I hope he's the kind of player who thrives on hostility.

This will be another ugly, low-scoring game. It's going to come down to who turns it over less. Unlike McNair, Boller has a fumbling problem when under pressure WHEN HEALTHY. I hope - MAN do I hope - that he has a great game and maybe this is coming-out party that we thought those late 2005 games could have been. We need this. We can't go into the 2nd half schedule with 3 losses and hope to make the playoffs. But don't ignore the challenge here.

i will guarantee we win the turnover battle. Guarantee it.

We may only kick 4 field goals, and win 12-3. But we'll win the TO battle.

[Rayvens52]

It wouldn't be a MAJOR upset if we lost. We're only favored by 3.

Look, you can trot out their statistical rankings (which mean little in Week 7, especially looking at their schedule to date), but if you've watched any of their games (and I've watched several), you can see they play with a lot of toughness for a bunch of mostly no-name players.

Their defensive strength is their pass-rush. I shudder to think what will happen with Schobel, a pro-bowler, matched up on Gaither, rushing Boller, who usually panics under pressure particularly in a hostile environment on the road. Their secondary is also coming along.

Offensively we get a bit of a break with Edwards, who lacks Losman's arm and thus the opportunity to burn us with Lee Evans (as they did last year), with C-Mac out. But Edwards also has better pocket awareness and presence than Losman.

And this will be a hostile environment. Imagine how we felt about Joey Porter for so many years, multiply it by 10, and that's how they feel about McGahee. Word of advice - if you go, wear a jersey, but not McGahee's. He is thoroughly, absolutely despised up there. It's not going to let up after the intros. I hope he's the kind of player who thrives on hostility.

This will be another ugly, low-scoring game. It's going to come down to who turns it over less. Unlike McNair, Boller has a fumbling problem when under pressure WHEN HEALTHY. I hope - MAN do I hope - that he has a great game and maybe this is coming-out party that we thought those late 2005 games could have been. We need this. We can't go into the 2nd half schedule with 3 losses and hope to make the playoffs. But don't ignore the challenge here.


Are you serious with the Mcnair does not fumble under pressure. Do not blame that on on his injury he has always had problems holding onto the ball even when he was a Titan. Again I am not saying Boller is great or is going to be great, but less face it neither is Mcnair!

[Fanman]

Hmmmm..thinking the Ravens could lose a game on the road w/ Boller at QB means I am not a Ravens fan....OK. Got it Highwater...you are the only true Ravens fan on this entire board. Whatever!!!

FM

[Rayvens52]

By the way in his last 11 starts he 13 TD's, not to bad, let's hope he can keep that up against a pretty bad D

[Fanman]

I agree w/ you R52...but the flip side is that Boller and the O went against a poor Rams defense at home last week, on a short field most of the day and still scored only 1 TD. If our Def plays well then maybe 13-16 pts will hold up vs Buffalo. But it's not logical to think we can always get 6 turnovers and win on FGs.

FM

[Rayvens52]

I agree w/ you R52...but the flip side is that Boller and the O went against a poor Rams defense at home last week, on a short field most of the day and still scored only 1 TD. If our Def plays well then maybe 13-16 pts will hold up vs Buffalo. But it's not logical to think we can always get 6 turnovers and win on FGs.

FM


No you are absoultly right, but here is my point I do not see how the Bills are any better than the rams. They are just as beat up as the rams if not more so. This is Edwards second start at QB and he has never ever seen a D like this. Lynch has not run for over 90 yards all season, and they played some D's that are pretty ad against the run, Lee who beside evans which most people probably thought retired since we have not heard his name sinceweek 16 lastseason has noone else to throw to. I am not saying this is a cake game, i didn't think last week was either, I am just saying this is a must win and the ravens know this, and this is an easier game to win than the game in 3 weeks!

[Ravens'N'Hoos]

Trent Edwards is better than Gus Frerotte. Marshawn Lynch is better than Brian Leonard. The Bills defense is definitely better (now) than the Rams defense, maybe not statistically but they've improved every game. The Bills are better than the Rams we played, and they're at home. And coming off a bye. And until he proves otherwise, as I hope he will, Boller has issues on the road. The biggest worry is Aaron Schobel coming after him all day - I hope Gaither is ready and gets chip-blocking help or something ... We're only favored by 3, and there's a reason for that.

[RAVENOUS52]

Something tells me Boller gets his money right this week and puts on a show if the O-line shows up... And if he does, ironically we'll have the same QB controversy that Buffalo is mired in now...:grbac:

Laaaaaaaaaa-laa-la-la, wait till I get my money right....

[sailorsam]

1) at home, the Bills will be tough.
2) KBoll is playing better now than ever. I think we'll be happy with him this week.
3) our D should stuff the Billskis and their rookie qb (Gadkowski last year for the Bucs? Walter for the Raiders?)
4) 12-3 sounds about right. and I'll take a road win in the conference.
5) the Brownies are a legit team this year. it's the Bengals loss now that really steams me (what are they, 1-5?)
6) if our D can steal a turnover and we get a quick lead, we sit on the ball. again. our offensive stats look bad. again. Ravens win. again.

[StingerNLG]

Keep in mind too that if Flynn and Terry don't play, that means we have the same young OL as last week. And no Heap, no C-Mac.

At full strength, yeah this is a no-brainer win no matter who the QB is. With 5+ starters out, including McNair, I think Kyle Boller starting Sunday isn't at the top of my worry list at the moment.

[xmradiodave]

Keep in mind too that if Flynn and Terry don't play, that means we have the same young OL as last week. And no Heap, no C-Mac.

At full strength, yeah this is a no-brainer win no matter who the QB is. With 5+ starters out, including McNair, I think Kyle Boller starting Sunday isn't at the top of my worry list at the moment.

Indeed. There are far bigger issues right now than the QB position. Boller is a decent backup to McNair. He has shown improvement in the few contests we have seen him in recently. I do not believe however, that there will be a controversy at the position. As soon as McNair is healthy, he will resume his starting position. In the meantime, we have Boller at the helm. Lets sit back and see what he can do. Not like there is a whole lot we can do if he goes out there and stinks it up anyway.

[The Fanatic]

Should be interesting to see if Ravens&Terps has any other guarantees or brilliant insight to add to this discussion.:grbac: :bag: :grbac: :bag:

[Raveninwoodlawn]

Some people aparently still see us as a borderline elite team...when we have shown that we are a VERY mediocre team.

[RavensNTerps]

well...we were upset. Like I said...it was a major upset.

Time to gear up for Pittsburgh...

At least we're no worse off than we were befoer the game, which is good...but it'd have been nice to be tied for first in the AFC North.

[flraven]

Yes and no. It was an upset for sure, but I wouldn't call it a major upset seeing how the Ravens were only giving 3 points.

But yes, it was good to see Pissburgh lose last night so thankfully we didn't lose any ground. Any chance of Cincy beating the Stealers? Kinda doubt it, but then the Stealers looked kinda ordinary last night even though it was an icebox out there.

[Mwjergs]

Too true.
This team hasn't played a good four quarters in a row yet.
But, they still sit a half game back of the division leader.

Very frustrating. But the bottom line is that they have shown to be only a medoicre team and the next part of the schedule will prove that out.