View Full Version : One big weakness to our offense...
FadeToBlack
10-12-2006, 08:13 PM
We can't stretch the field.
We have a weak armed QB and receivers who either can't or just plain don't separate down the field. It makes our offense pretty easy to defend, I must say. Combine that with starting the 3rd best running back on the team and you have one pitiful unit.
bassgtrst
10-13-2006, 05:21 AM
McNair can throw those bombs. He did it against SD but Mason lost it in the sun.
If the playcalling doesnt allow us to stretch the field, then we wont stretch the field.
Simple as that.
ladyraven127
10-13-2006, 05:35 AM
Well, I keep hoping that McNair and Mason will get into some kind of groove. My goodness, Steve should be able to get the ball to Derrick with his eyes shut. They did it for umpteen years together.
I still think if we somehow get the running game going we may be alright. Or not ;)
highwater
10-13-2006, 07:23 AM
We have a weak armed QB and receivers who either can't or just plain don't separate down the field.
You might be right about the QB, but I think we do have receivers who can get down the field. Why we haven't been calling these kinds of plays, I don't know. But it is a problem. We should at least attempt some deep passes, but we rarely do.
ClericBlackDave
10-13-2006, 07:55 AM
The reciever can and are getting down the field with separation. 3 games last year showed the potential the unit has (minny, greenbay, bengals 2nd half) if the QB makes the throws.
And to everyone who says McNair can throw the deep ball, he can only throw rainbows now. 40 yard rainbows has been what its been for him this year.
When the ball hangs up like that, WRs are going to lose the separation they have with the DB unless the pass is just picture perfect.
Honestly, I would have liked us to have traded something away to get McNair earlier, so we could have had him in the offseason conditioning programs as well as have him with the playbook.
For now, we'll see what it is. I hope we continue winning and taht McNair finds his stride.
StingerNLG
10-13-2006, 08:05 AM
Two factors at play here:
1) McNair is underthrowing short passes too. Before he can start chucking them downfield, he's got to start completing these first. The pass to Mason that Mason dropped was great, but Mason had absolutely no one covering him either. The little we've seen McNair throw downfield, his passes look like Nerf balls at times. He can't throw that ball like a McNabb or Favre.
2) It's real hard to throw downfield when your pass protection can't hold up. Sound familiar? It's the same thing many of us complained about last year.....and the year before.......and the year before......and...oh you get the picture.
ExiledRaven
10-13-2006, 08:51 AM
Pass protection, for the most part, was fine in Denver, but I think a lot of that is because they just said "well, we don't respect the ability of McNair to throw the ball, so we're going to cover everyone and watch him screw up".
Flea-flicker anyone? Especially with Jamal, someone's got to be wide the eff open
OwingsMillsAlex
10-13-2006, 09:00 AM
Our one big problem is the one trick pony play to Clarence Morre in the corner end-zone. Why do we keep this play in the rotation and why do we have to throw it once a game????
RavenFanatic2k6
10-13-2006, 11:04 AM
Randy Moss imo.
postalworker
10-13-2006, 11:13 AM
Clayton has demonstrated the ability to toast defenders downfield. He did it a bunch of times last year, only to have the ball either underthrown, overthrown, or he'd drop it. Mason's caught a few deep passes this year, too, and don't tell me that Demetrius Williams couldn't get deep if they let him loose.
The problem isn't the receivers, or the offensive line. The problem is the playcalling and McNair's weird decision making, inaccuracy, and declining arm strength.
We have the weapons to go deep, we just can't execute.
FadeToBlack
10-13-2006, 11:49 AM
Clayton has demonstrated the ability to toast defenders downfield. He did it a bunch of times last year, only to have the ball either underthrown, overthrown, or he'd drop it. Mason's caught a few deep passes this year, too, and don't tell me that Demetrius Williams couldn't get deep if they let him loose.
The problem isn't the receivers, or the offensive line. The problem is the playcalling and McNair's weird decision making, inaccuracy, and declining arm strength.
We have the weapons to go deep, we just can't execute.
You could be right here. I don't see Mason as a downfield target personally, but D-Will should be and Clayton has the ability to be dangerous in intermediate areas (which we hardly ever exploit either). I would caution against giving Clayton a fly pattern just because of his height and matching up with corners who could at least jump as high as he can to defend the pass. I don't see Clayton as a Steve Smith, a guy who can separate so much that his height ceases to matter.
highwater
10-13-2006, 12:02 PM
We have the weapons to go deep, we just can't execute.
I think that sums it up pretty well. I don't know if it's because McNair can't throw a good long ball, or if the coaches don't want to call those plays, or perhaps a combination of the above -- maybe the coaches don't have confidence in McNair to throw bombs.
Whatever the reason, I don't think the receivers are the problem.