View Full Version : Playcalling
RavenScallywag
10-21-2007, 12:29 PM
3rd and 15...we choose to run it with Musa Smith?
Seriously, a middle schooler would be better calling our plays.
jonboy79
10-21-2007, 12:46 PM
They wanted room to be able to punt effectively. It's common when pinned back to assume the 4th and work towards a better punt.
ExiledRaven
10-21-2007, 01:18 PM
Billick is playcalling himself out of a job.
I'm going to withhold final judgment until after the deadly trio of NE/Indy/SD ...if we lose all of those with poor offense and poor offense before that, i think the ax comes.
OriAl
10-21-2007, 01:28 PM
No guts on fourth downs against a weak defense. Instead, 20 yard net punts. That loses games.
RavenDavey
10-21-2007, 01:41 PM
Nice Run!!!
Give The Ball To Mcgahee!!!!
RavensInBrazil
10-21-2007, 02:53 PM
This just kills me. I really does. Three downs to get one yard, we have a back averaging, what, 6 yards a carry, and we throw three times
20 bucks says this is on TMQ on Tuesday. It's PATHETIC
darb72
10-21-2007, 02:55 PM
It's Billick. Our offense looked like gang busters for about three series and then Billick screwed the pooch.
I've been a supporter of Billicks, but he needs to go. We haven't had a decent offense in how long? How many QBs? How many Pro-Bowl RBs? Two HOF TEs?
Billick needs to be fired tomorrow.
The Fanatic
10-21-2007, 03:03 PM
2nd & 1, 3rd & 1, 4th & 1 and we throw the ball three straight times.
The mother fucker is clueless when it comes to game time decision making in many situations.
There was plenty of time on the clock to run the ball to the outside get the 1st down and run out of bounds.
Just fucking clueless!!!
3rd and 1 you pass when you already know your going to go for it on 4th. why not hand it to McGahee?
Billick needs to hand over the playcalling.
Boller didn't help either......
flraven
10-21-2007, 03:11 PM
Yeah, what is Neuheisel doing on the staff as OC if he can't call plays.
give him a shot at it!
The Fanatic
10-21-2007, 03:16 PM
Boller didn't help either......
No he didn't, but you don't put him in the situation to be a contributing factor for failure when there's far too many other options to achieve the immediate goal of getting a first down and stopping the clock.
flraven
10-21-2007, 03:19 PM
Boller didn't do all that bad, given that sieve of an offensive line. It was good to see JO have a crack at coming back.
I think this loss lies with Billick and the playcalling.
middleriverterp
10-21-2007, 03:23 PM
I'm "watching" the game on NFL.com Game Center from scenic Iraq, and I just can't figure out what the hell Billick is doing. Beginning of the 4th quarter on 3rd and 4th and 3 from the Bills 8 we throw 2 passes; then to end the game on 2nd, 3rd, and 4th and 1 we throw on all downs. Did all of our RBs go down? This is insanity. I have never been one to call for Billick's head, I have always errored on the side of the professionals, but we had a chance to win this game, and I feel he threw it away. Unfortunately the schedule gets no easier.
RockyMRaven
10-21-2007, 03:43 PM
No he didn't, but you don't put him in the situation to be a contributing factor for failure when there's far too many other options to achieve the immediate goal of getting a first down and stopping the clock.
I'm usually a hugger, but Boller looked nervous and jittery on those pass plays. The passes were not on target, not even close. I thought he did pretty well before that, but that's when the game is on the line, and a winning NFL quarterback makes those plays. I was really disappointed that he proved himself to be lacking at that point.
The Fanatic
10-21-2007, 03:51 PM
I'm usually a hugger, but Boller looked nervous and jittery on those pass plays. The passes were not on target, not even close. I thought he did pretty well before that, but that's when the game is on the line, and a winning NFL quarterback makes those plays. I was really disappointed that he proved himself to be lacking at that point.
That's exactly why I said you don't put him in that situation.
Given his track record and the offensive line situation, I'd choose to get the first down with my running back that's having a good day, then I'd have Boller in more favorable situations to succeed on 1st down.
RockyMRaven
10-21-2007, 03:58 PM
That's exactly why I said you don't put him in that situation.
Given his track record and the offensive line situation, I'd choose to get the first down with my running back that's having a good day, then I'd have Boller in more favorable situations to succeed on 1st down.
You're right.
No he didn't, but you don't put him in the situation to be a contributing factor for failure when there's far too many other options to achieve the immediate goal of getting a first down and stopping the clock.
And who does that fall on?......
middleriverterp
10-21-2007, 04:23 PM
I agree, previous starter or not, use the RB to get the fresh set of downs. Is it just me, or is that common sense?
ravenjoe
10-21-2007, 04:34 PM
The team, as we all know, lacks DISCIPLINE, INTENSITY, and a SENSE OF URGENCY. The penalties are INEXCUSABLE, and this falls squarely on the shoulders of the head man. Playcalling is just one of the team's deficiencies. I'm sorry to say it men, but this team will Not make the playoffs this year. In fact, Cleveland may finish ahead of the Ravens this year. That team is beginning to develop into a solid club. One team is on the rise, and the other is sinking fast!
ravenjoe
10-21-2007, 04:41 PM
Excuse me, Derrick; but if the team had 22 players with the same grittiness, toughness, and determination as you, the fans would not be complaining about the playcalling week in and week out, because that what would be overshadowed by W's each week!
Excuse me, Derrick; but if the team had 22 players with the same grittiness, toughness, and determination as you, the fans would not be complaining about the playcalling week in and week out, because that what would be overshadowed by W's each week!
But even if the play sent in were to "work", it doesn't matter if the play is dead because of a 5-yard penalty? They have to do something else!
ravenjoe
10-21-2007, 06:13 PM
I think Execution has a lot to do with the playcalling! If the players simply execute, which includes NOT jumping offsides, then the majority of the time they will be successful. Look at Lombardi's teams for example; they simply executed the most fundamental of plays and won.
donnaj
10-21-2007, 06:46 PM
The penalties were inexcusable from the defense which is primarily veterans in the first half, but surprisingly we did not have the penalties of off sides calls and holding calls coming from the offense as we have seen in previous games. However, the penalties from the first half had ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with explaining or excusing the choice to call a pass play on 2 - 1, 3 - 1, and 4 - 1. Even with McGahee in the lockeroom getting an IV we had Anderson or even McClain that surely could have gotten 1 yard due to their ability to push into the line alone!
Also this decision to call the play with the short pass play behind the line of scrimmage out on the edge is horrible and is not working - have we gotten more than 3 yards on this play all season? Since we are averaging 4 yards a rush (or were going into the game) why not run it instead of that play, it would yield a better result. We could keep the defense honest by still taking shots down field or across the center of the field. We don't have to abandon Billick's fav dink and dunk, but out there near the sideline TRYING to get around the corner is not working.
MikeinGlennDale
10-22-2007, 10:18 PM
I want to know who called the most excellent 'end-around' Clayton...Pass to Boller.
That play was (the all too rare 'creative play') even though it didn't work.
The Ref's were atrocious. Were these the same as the Ref's in the Detroit road game a couple years ago?
Fanman
10-23-2007, 01:34 PM
Fanatic is totally right here. Any other OC in the league runs at least once and gets the 1st down. That series was 100% unacceptable at the NFL level.
Billick sucks...and always has...this isn't something new.
FM