View Full Version : Billick Must Go
ravens138
10-21-2007, 03:06 PM
I'm sorry people but Billick must go. This team just went though the easy part of the scheudle and we are 4-3. The 2nd part of the scheulde will kick our butt.
Cream Puff Training Camp
No Offense
Oh Billick always has an excuse at the press conference to make it look like things are great.
Sorry Brian the Super Bowl win was seven (7) years ago. Oh also Marvin's defense won the suoer bowl not you.
This is the best time a bye week. I hope our owner steps up and takes care of business and fires Billick.
When we make the playoffs it's one and out. We may not even make the playoffs this year.
Teams we have to play after the break:
Pittsburgh twice
New England
Indy
San Diego
Seattle
Creveland
Cinn.
It's going to be a hard second half. I want a new coach NOW.
RavenDavey
10-21-2007, 03:09 PM
He needs to give up the play calling.....
Mr.Boh
10-21-2007, 03:10 PM
I've always defended him... I'm now done. The fact that he went 3 & 1 and 4th & 1 with passes with the game within reach is inexcusable.
The Fanatic
10-21-2007, 03:12 PM
I just love when people love to refer back to the "Creampuff" training camps when the chips are down.
Lot of reasons to call for Billicks head, but training camp ain't one of them.
What we need is a new offensive coordinator that is allowed to install his own system and call the plays.
flraven
10-21-2007, 03:13 PM
Why the HELL didn't they run the ball with only one yard to gain?
I wouldn't fire Billick, just make him hand over the playcalling to Neuheisel.
ravens138
10-21-2007, 03:14 PM
Why the HELL didn't they run the ball with only one yard to gain?
I wouldn't fire Billick, just make him hand over the playcalling to Neuheisel.
Things won't change he's still the HEAD COACH
The fact that he went 3 & 1 and 4th & 1 with passes with the game within reach is inexcusable.
I was yelling at my TV RUN THE DAMN BALL! Who does that? Did he acts all surpise on the sideline when Boller throws incomplete. He has nine blitzers coming out him and he standing in a shotgun! Whatever happened to that offensive genuis from Minnesota we was supposed to get. Cause Billick sure aint it. The job of the head coach is to put his players in the best position to win. He didn't do today and hasn't done it for a long time.
Raveninwoodlawn
10-21-2007, 03:19 PM
Well...I'll just say that I don't think the playoffs are a real possibility now.
Does anyone really see 6-3 the rest of the way?
Bez513
10-21-2007, 03:23 PM
Well...I'll just say that I don't think the playoffs are a real possibility now.
Does anyone really see 6-3 the rest of the way?
The way we are playing I see us maybe winning 2 games.
RavenFanatic2k6
10-21-2007, 03:26 PM
I just love when people love to refer back to the "Creampuff" training camps when the chips are down.
Lot of reasons to call for Billicks head, but training camp ain't one of them.
What we need is a new offensive coordinator that is allowed to install his own system and call the plays.
Sadly that will not happen as long as Billick is here.
It is time to part ways with Billick. Thanks for everything, but it's time to move on.
middleriverterp
10-21-2007, 03:31 PM
I have to agree, I think Billick's arrogance finally got the best of him. I am not in B-more to hear the presser, but there is NOOOO way he can explain himself out of this goat screw. 2nd, 3rd, and 4th and 1 and he passes, after Willis looked like he was in the groove. Even with the young O-line, I would trust them to get 1 yard over our passing offense.
Well...I'll just say that I don't think the playoffs are a real possibility now.
Does anyone really see 6-3 the rest of the way?
The only thing I see is not making the playoffs.
RavenFanatic2k6
10-21-2007, 03:36 PM
I only see one game we should be favored in following the bye - @ Miami.
I can see us winning vs. Cincy and vs. Cleveland, but other than that, I don't see it.
We aren't beating New England or Indianapolis. We may play Pittsburgh tough on the road and at home, but we'll be lucky to split. We probably aren't beating Seattle and SD on the west coast trips.
By my estimation that puts us at 7-9 at best, which is unacceptable.
The Fanatic
10-21-2007, 03:39 PM
What the hell will the Pats do to us??
Well let's see...
They put up 35 on Miami before halftime, and then toned it down to only score a total of 49.
I don't gurantee much of anything, but I gurantee we won't put up 28 on them like Miami did.
If the Pats go no huddle on us, they're liable to put up 94 on us.
I'd be highly concerned about what any team remaining on our schedule will do, not just the Pats!!:bag: :bag: :bag:
ClericBlackDave
10-21-2007, 03:40 PM
We're an injured team, so that means something.
However, Billick should relinquish playcalling to Neuheisal at this point.
There are times where its obvious that he's not making a necessary adjustment.
For instance, passing wise we need to go 3 WRs more consistently, and use the shotgun more earlier in games. The patriots do this all the time.
Additionally, on a 3rd and 1 and 4th and 1, we need to run the ball / qb sneak.
Its times like that where Billick doesn't seem to make the right calls. So it goes.
Put Neuheisal at OC, and see what happens. Open up the playbook.
What really hurts Billick is the promises he made during the off season to open up the offense. More deep passing plays, more 3 WR sets. Instead we get the same sorry offense we've always had.
ramair31
10-21-2007, 04:03 PM
You all don't really think that Billick will admit his ineptness and give up offense play calling. That would be too damaging to his ego. For that matter any head coach would feel the same way about giving up such responsibility halfway through the season.
You all don't really think that Billick will admit his ineptness and give up offense play calling. That would be too damaging to his ego. For that matter any head coach would feel the same way about giving up such responsibility halfway through the season.
Than he should be fire for puting his ego ahead of the success of the team.
The Fanatic
10-21-2007, 04:11 PM
You all don't really think that Billick will admit his ineptness and give up offense play calling. That would be too damaging to his ego. For that matter any head coach would feel the same way about giving up such responsibility halfway through the season.
I think there are ways to go about it without having to admit failure.
He is supposed to be the Head Coach.
I think attempting to do both is costing this team in other areas as much as it's costing the offense in futility.
All he needs to do is come out and say that he needs to focus more of his energy on being the head coach which will require relinquishing his play calling dutys.
Or something to that effect.
No question injurys are a big factor in this season, but this offense has struggled since jump street 9 years ago.
ramair31
10-21-2007, 04:17 PM
Actually the Ravens had the high scoring offense with pro bowl player Testaverde 8 and 9 years ago.
The Fanatic
10-21-2007, 04:19 PM
Actually the Ravens had the high scoring offense with pro bowl player Testaverde 8 and 9 years ago.
That was 10 and 11 years ago prior to Billick taking over.
By my estimation that puts us at 7-9 at best, which is unacceptable.
No its not. This season is done and we may as well try out all our young players we have (O-line) now so when we pick our new Head Coach and QB we'll know what we have to look forward to!! :thumbup:
3RDRowRaven
10-21-2007, 04:44 PM
Well what do I think about all of this mess heading into the bye week.
1) Well for starters the fucking penalties 11 for 91 yards today are killing us. :grbac: The players gotta be more discipline at the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball.
2) Chris McAlister, David Pittman, Daniel Wilcox, Todd Heap, Trevor Pryce,
Steve McNair and J.O. Please get healthy and be ready to play after the bye week. :34853_waah:
3) Our offense has got to be ready and after the bye week and to produce better in the red zone and put up TD's.
4) At least we are 4-3 and not 0-7 like the Dolphins. I can live with that.
5) I'm still not convince that I'll be writing a check for playoff tickets come December. The defense will keep us in the game for so long and thats it and hoping that are offense will show up. The offense and the play calling by Billick has got to be better or we won't make the wildcard this season.
JMO.........:kewl:
The defense will keep us in the game for so long and thats it and hoping that are offense will show up.
I don't think our 'D' looks too good either, but I know we're banged up so I'll wait until Pissburgh to see if we should be on the same field as the Pats and Colts!!
The offense and the play calling by Billick has got to be better or we won't make the wildcard this season.
JMO.........:kewl:
What is Billick going to do differently? He obviously doesn't understand what to do on 2nd, 3rd, or 4th and 1!!!
festivus
10-21-2007, 05:28 PM
The defense has too many horses, too many great players, to give up the time of possession, yards and points they did today. To the freakin' BILLS. I knew the offense would struggle with its injuries. But our defense should NOT be giving up points like that to a JV team.
Everybody gets a spoonful of poo for the turd they laid today. Nobody goes without.
ravenjoe
10-21-2007, 06:19 PM
I really believe that our team's lack of execution (and NOT the playcalling), which IS BB's fault, by the way, is the real reason this team sucks and will end up in third place this year behind the Brownies!
Fanman
10-22-2007, 06:54 AM
I am not saying the playcalling the entire game sucked...but the last series when it was 2nd and 1 and they don't run te ball one time is a total FREAKING joke. Even if you don't want BB fired, which I do, how can anyone defend his offensive scheme and playcalling any longer? He is awful...no 2 ways about it.
FM
RAVENOUS52
10-22-2007, 11:40 AM
Our offense and special teams handicapped our defense most of the day.
Penalties also killed us, particularly those awful pass interference calls against our secondary. With all those factors against the defense and an anemic offense, it was only a matter of time before 4 field goals and a TD did us in. But we still had an opportunity to win if we could only move the friggin' ball with any level of consistency.
festivus
10-22-2007, 11:45 AM
Defense couldn't get off the field. You can't say that much is somebody else's fault.
Offense couldn't move the ball, playcalling was weird, special teams was, um, special. But it was not Kyle Boller or Brian Billick who couldn't tackle Marshawn Lynch.
RAVENOUS52
10-22-2007, 11:49 AM
The guy had 84 yards on 27 carries.
You do the math. Not bad considering their O-line outweighed our D-Line by an average of more than 40lbs.
festivus
10-22-2007, 12:02 PM
Not interested in relative size of the lines. Just interested in the quality of the performance. They averaged over 3 yds/rush and over 6 yds/pass. They were penalized five (six? four? think it was five) times for offsides.
I am *not* saying the defense played badly by any objective standard. Even on an off day they are better then most defenses in the NFL. But they did not play up to their potential, just like everybody else with the possible exception of Sam Koch. As I said earlier, nobody gets a pass on this one.
ExiledRaven
10-22-2007, 12:17 PM
They were penalized five (six? four? think it was five) times for offsides.
That's starting to be like the no huddle with the defense. Everyone knows the Ravens jump a lot, so you're going to get a lot of hard counts.
Also, anymore, realize the Ravens can't tackle.
purplepoe
10-22-2007, 12:41 PM
We're an injured team, so that means something.
However, Billick should relinquish playcalling to Neuheisal at this point.
There are times where its obvious that he's not making a necessary adjustment.
For instance, passing wise we need to go 3 WRs more consistently, and use the shotgun more earlier in games. The patriots do this all the time.
Additionally, on a 3rd and 1 and 4th and 1, we need to run the ball / qb sneak.
Its times like that where Billick doesn't seem to make the right calls. So it goes.
Put Neuheisal at OC, and see what happens. Open up the playbook.
A week ago there was nothing wrong with the system.
You said Billick was fine and we just needed a QB to not check down.
Ahh, the irony.
What happened?
PP
StingerNLG
10-22-2007, 01:06 PM
Why can't the two of you get along?? :)
With all due respect Ravenous, the defense was getting worked by a rookie QB yesterday. There is no way to get around that. Worked. Lee Evans caught a ball in the middle of the field that he bobbled for 23 seconds, and stopped to get control of, and not a single defender was within 5 yards of him! No anemic offensive performance changes that.
One turnover?? The whole game one turnover. And Sypnewski coughed one up earlier in the game, so we didn't win any turnover battles either.
EVERYONE needs to take a bite of the shit sandwich that was yesterday's loss (except maybe McGahee who did his job). And that includes our head coach.
crpravens
10-22-2007, 05:40 PM
Actually the Ravens had the high scoring offense with pro bowl player Testaverde 8 and 9 years ago.
More like 11 years ago