2008 Ravens

[RavenLisa]

What position player should the Ravens draft for next year ? Do you think the Ravens should do as they have done in the past best player available or target certain positions ?

[HoustonRaven]

What position player should the Ravens draft for next year ? Do you think the Ravens should do as they have done in the past best player available or target certain positions ?

A little early to be talking positions since we dont know what order we will pick. I have always agreed with the philosophy of drafting the best player available in the first round no matter what the team needs are.

[ExiledRaven]

I think BPA makes sense, except when you're talking about QB. When you need a QB, throw everything out the window and the get the guy you want or need.

All QBs are drafted too early because QB is the most important position without question in today's NFL.

However, if the Ravens have a choice between Chris Long and Andre Woodson, I'd NOT want to be Ozzie....

EDIT: FYI with the way records may work out...Ravens could be between 8 and 14...with the Falcons, Dolphins, Vikings, and Bears all picking before the Ravens. Good luck with a QB then.

Optimistic part is then you've got a shot at Malcolm Jenkins or Chris Long potentially (if you're #8)

[Mista T]

BPA between DE and CB.

[purplepoe]

As of now I'd have to say CB but as we all know, things can change.

PP

[RavenFanatic2k6]

It's an absolute no brainer, if the Ravens have a chance to get one of the 3 top QBs, they will take them.

At some point we will have to sacrifice on the defense to improve the team as a whole, Ozzie said this some time back. The D without Pryce and Rolle for most of the year, as well as without McAlister for the past few games, with a hobbled Reed and Suggs, has still performed at a high level, the exception being the Steeler game. So we get another CB or a DE, yeah, the defense will stay pretty good, but that doesn't mean a damn thing if the offense continues to play as it has, and without a long term solution at QB (I don't think Boller is the answer) we still aren't going to go anywhere.

[4G63]

It's an absolute no brainer, if the Ravens have a chance to get one of the 3 top QBs, they will take them.

At some point we will have to sacrifice on the defense to improve the team as a whole, Ozzie said this some time back. The D without Pryce and Rolle for most of the year, as well as without McAlister for the past few games, with a hobbled Reed and Suggs, has still performed at a high level, the exception being the Steeler game. So we get another CB or a DE, yeah, the defense will stay pretty good, but that doesn't mean a damn thing if the offense continues to play as it has, and without a long term solution at QB (I don't think Boller is the answer) we still aren't going to go anywhere.

Good post......I think even if the Top 3 QB's (whoever they are to the Ravens) are gone, you're still gonna see them get one.....

[Greg]

Best player available, every round, every time.

But until we see how the season plays out this is a waste of time. Boller is the lynch pin, if he falters we will be at least looking to trade up and get a top QB. If he pans out and proves to be a viable NFL starter then things change completely.

But you go BPA always, you try and adjust your draft position via trades to meet need, not reach. If the player you need it a late first rounder and you are at 12 you trade back and pick him later. If you really want that QB who will probably go top 10 and he is worth it, you trade up from where ever you are and bite the bullet.

But again, until we know what we need this is a premature conversation.

[Rayvens52]

I think BPA makes sense, except when you're talking about QB. When you need a QB, throw everything out the window and the get the guy you want or need.

All QBs are drafted too early because QB is the most important position without question in today's NFL.

However, if the Ravens have a choice between Chris Long and Andre Woodson, I'd NOT want to be Ozzie....

EDIT: FYI with the way records may work out...Ravens could be between 8 and 14...with the Falcons, Dolphins, Vikings, and Bears all picking before the Ravens. Good luck with a QB then.

Optimistic part is then you've got a shot at Malcolm Jenkins or Chris Long potentially (if you're #8)


I disagree a little. This year is one of the most QB packed drafts in years. Even at 14 we would have some good options at QB if that is the way they want to go. I still it is to early to decide which way we will go, but i always think you should draft bpa.

[jonboy79]

Best player available, every round, every time.

But until we see how the season plays out this is a waste of time. Boller is the lynch pin, if he falters we will be at least looking to trade up and get a top QB. If he pans out and proves to be a viable NFL starter then things change completely.

.

I have been labled a Boller hugger for quite some time, but even if he LIGHTS IT UP, I still want a top tier prosepect. Temas need to have AT LEAST a good starter and capable backup. McNair is neither, and I think that at a minimum, Boller fulfills the second need. If he can start and be good, then he can start and be good next year, and then go as a FA, or re-sign to compete once again. There is noone in the draft that would keep me away from a QB. Not McFadden, Not Dorsey, Long or Long.... And those ARE the top 4 guys in the draft.

[HoustonRaven]

I disagree a little. This year is one of the most QB packed drafts in years. Even at 14 we would have some good options at QB if that is the way they want to go. I still it is to early to decide which way we will go, but i always think you should draft bpa.

Maybe my brain is littered with Grand Marnier resin, but I think it would be very unusual for a team to go back-to-back drafts picking up a QB. Granted, we got Smith late and anything can happen between now and February, but if Smith is filling a valuable role by then, I cant see the Ravens picking up another QB .....

... Unless we totally lay a steaming pile the rest of the season and finish 4-12

[Rochardrik]

Speaking of drafts..... Will the Gods ALWAYS shine on the Billicheat Patsies?. You know they lost THEIR 1st rounder in the Spygate debacle....... BUT they still have San Fran's #1..... which, it appears, will be VERY high!!!:grbac: :embarassed: :thumbdown: :ralph:

[4G63]

Speaking of drafts..... Will the Gods ALWAYS shine on the Billicheat Patsies?. You know they lost THEIR 1st rounder in the Spygate debacle....... BUT they still have San Fran's #1..... which, it appears, will be VERY high!!!:grbac: :embarassed: :thumbdown: :ralph:

I thought even though its their 1st round pick, they use it at the end, not where the team they received it from finishes?

[flraven]

I thought even though its their 1st round pick, they use it at the end, not where the team they received it from finishes?

IIRC, since its the 9ers pick, the Pats pick where the 9ers would in that round. So, it could be right high. Unless the commish invokes some special rule to change that. :) :hammer:

[ravenwoman]

It's an absolute no brainer, if the Ravens have a chance to get one of the 3 top QBs, they will take them.

At some point we will have to sacrifice on the defense to improve the team as a whole, Ozzie said this some time back. The D without Pryce and Rolle for most of the year, as well as without McAlister for the past few games, with a hobbled Reed and Suggs, has still performed at a high level, the exception being the Steeler game. So we get another CB or a DE, yeah, the defense will stay pretty good, but that doesn't mean a damn thing if the offense continues to play as it has, and without a long term solution at QB (I don't think Boller is the answer) we still aren't going to go anywhere.

Agreed! Except for Carson Palmer, the top 7 QB in the NFL are on teams which are competing or are a cinch for the playoffs. These days, you are not going anywhere without a franchise QB.

[Mista T]

Best player available, every round, every time.

But until we see how the season plays out this is a waste of time. Boller is the lynch pin, if he falters we will be at least looking to trade up and get a top QB. If he pans out and proves to be a viable NFL starter then things change completely.

But you go BPA always, you try and adjust your draft position via trades to meet need, not reach. If the player you need it a late first rounder and you are at 12 you trade back and pick him later. If you really want that QB who will probably go top 10 and he is worth it, you trade up from where ever you are and bite the bullet.

But again, until we know what we need this is a premature conversation.


I can't believe I'm almost in agreement with you, two days in a row.

The tweak though would be that this offseason we would be facing a rebuild, but it should be very limited in the number of positions. I would think that, assuming Boller plays adequately, they would go BPA, but limited to BPA among several positions. Certainly the the CB and DE positions, maybe reach into WRs and lower round QBs. If Boller stinks, a 1st round QB (unless there were another Drew Brees situation and the FO -- this time -- chose the better FA).



Maybe my brain is littered with Grand Marnier resin, but I think it would be very unusual for a team to go back-to-back drafts picking up a QB. Granted, we got Smith late and anything can happen between now and February, but if Smith is filling a valuable role by then, I cant see the Ravens picking up another QB .....

... Unless we totally lay a steaming pile the rest of the season and finish 4-12

I don't think so. Troy Smith was a throwaway pick last season. A longshot gamble that they could cash in on a #5 round. Even if he makes the team next season, I don't think the FO views him as a serious candidate to take over at the helm.

I would not be surprised to see the Ravens choose two QBs next season, one via the draft (high to low round depending on Boller's performance), and a vet FA or a walk-on undrafted FA to compete with Smith.

[Raveninwoodlawn]

It all depends on Kyle.

If Kyle doesn't show he is the guy, then we will have a top 5-10 pick, and we would have a shot at Brohm, Ryan or Woodson...and you'd almost have to take one of them.

If he shows he is the guy, we should have a mid first round pick, and BPA...There isn't a position on our team besides maybe safety and RB that I don't think could use some first round help.

[Ravenator]

With Rolle having a sickness that must be god awful (Not trying to make fun of it) and C-Mac soon to be past his prime I think it logical to go after a CB. The guys behind these two are either old (Ivy) or terrible (Pittman and Martin)

[ExiledRaven]

I disagree a little. This year is one of the most QB packed drafts in years. Even at 14 we would have some good options at QB if that is the way they want to go. I still it is to early to decide which way we will go, but i always think you should draft bpa.

I guess my thinking is that at 14, Woodson, Brohm, and Ryan should be gone simply based on the needs of teams likely to be worse than 14...Bears, Dolphins, Vikings, Falcons....hell, maybe even the Panthers in there if they get scared about Delhomme.

I'm not sure there is anyone else worth taking around that slot in the draft at the moment...maybe bowl season and the combine might change my mind.

My point about QBs is that they're ALWAYS going to be overvalued or a reach because a QB can make a bad or mediocre team decent to great.

Lots of time, we'll see what happens. For all I know, Boller could suddenly play like Tom Brady and the Ravens win the Super Bowl from the wildcard slot out of nowhere.