Fox comments re Unitas makes me Puke!

[Mista T]

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Just channel surfed to the Indinianapolis Irsays vs. Landover Danny Snyders and caught the dumbshit announcers' comments about Johnny U. Something like this:

"Today is the 50th anniversary of Johnny Unitas' first NFL game. This has inspired Peyton Manning to continue in Unitas footsteps, wearing the #18, just one number below Unitas' #19".

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:thumbdown: Fucking blasphemy!!!!!!! :thumbdown:

Who does this Fox announcer think he is to sully Unitas' name? :bag: And a pox on Peyton Manning for daring to mention Unitas' name in the same sentence as his own. Pity the Fools! :mrt: Now I really I hope that dumb shit never gets to smell the roses!:mad:

:T2:

[52decleetzu]

And now they just mention that Harrison has tied the great Lenny Moore with 113 career TD's.

[PurpleRulz]

:nm:

Just channel surfed to the Indinianapolis Irsays vs. Landover Danny Snyders and caught the dumbshit announcers' comments about Johnny U. Something like this:

"Today is the 50th anniversary of Johnny Unitas' first NFL game. This has inspired Peyton Manning to continue in Unitas footsteps, wearing the #18, just one number below Unitas' #19".

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:thumbdown: Fucking blasphemy!!!!!!! :thumbdown:

Who does this Fox announcer think he is to sully Unitas' name? :bag: And a pox on Peyton Manning for daring to mention Unitas' name in the same sentence as his own. Pity the Fools! :mrt: Now I really I hope that dumb shit never gets to smell the roses!:mad:

:T2:


This is not going to be a popular point of view, but the national folks don't care about Unitas's ties to Baltimore. Unitas is bigger than a city and was a huge figure of the "Colts" legend. I am a little apathetic because I have no ties nor do I care about "Baltimore Colts." The past is the past. We have a new legacy in the Baltimore Ravens, and I am purely a Ravens fan.

If we had brought the Browns colors to Baltimore, they would have done the same with tying Jim Brown with this current team. This Unitas/Manning issue just gets convoluted because the Colts colors went to Indy. Understand that the logos, etc., are the NFL's property and not Baltimore's.

Can we get over this and stop living in the past and just honor it? We can still treasure Unitas for his contributions to this community, but the NFL honors Unitas for his impact on the LEAGUE.

[Mista T]

Can we get over this and stop living in the past and just honor it?

:229031_confused2:

What's to "honor" about stealing our team in the middle of the night, merging Baltimore's records with those of the Indianapolis NFL team? (Meanwhile allowing Cleveland the fantasy of merging two entirely different teams as if they were one). Then, to add insult to injury, hearing Fox announcers blasphemize Baltimore Colts legends Johnny Unitas and Lenny Moore by making comparisons to members of that whore team playing in Indianapolis.

[ladyraven127]

If the Baltimore Colts records were listed in the Hall of Fame as Baltimore Colts, then I wouldn't care. Until then :thumbdown:

[darb72]

I recently found out that one of my buddies Mom worked as a lawyer for Satan when he was sneaking the Colts.

I have told him not to go near Baltimore and that his mother is a terrible person.

[purplepoe]

It saddens me to hear people just brush this stuff off.

It's insulting to hear stuff about Unitas and Moore while watching the Indianapolis Colts play.

Im 29 and only saw 1 Colts game at Memorial Stadium.

However, Im well aware of the tradition and how much the BALTIMORE Colts meant to this city.

I can get over the move. I can't get over how it was done nor the fact that many Baltimore Colts' names are in the Indianapolis Colts Hall of Fame.

PP

[PARavensJeff]

What do you expect from Dick Stockton? He is a waste & how this guy still works for Fox is beyond me. Why does Bisciotti hire him every pre season for our pre season games. Aikman does a good job, just can Stockton Steve!!!

I am 39 but was raised on the Baltimore Colts. My Dad moved to Baltimore in 63 & proceeded to attend many Colts games in the 60's w/ my uncle. I have boxes of old BALTIMORE COLTS memorabialia. I watched many games of the Baltimore Colts with my Dad & listened to many on the radio due to the blackouts. My Dad never took me to a Colts game, he was so pissed at what Irsay did to the team & decided he would never give Irsay any of his money. Sort of like we all are pissed at Angelos for ruining the Orioles. I was 16 when the Cots were stolen from us & I remember it like it was yesterday. The wound will never heal or feel old. Everytime one of these TV fools talk about an INDIANAPOLIS COLTS player doing this or that, who cares, but they don't need to say they broke John Unitas' or Raymond Berry's or Lenny Moore's records. These guys from Indy never played 1 down in Baltimore, so to those of us from here, who still get it, get mad & pissed when these TV idiots compare or talk to the Baltimore Colts. I will never go to the Pro Football Hall of Fame until they correct this immoral injustice that they have in their building. The 7 Baltimore Colts HOF'ers have never been to Indy, never embraced the Coltssince they left, have nothing to do with that town. They were Baltimore Colts and nothing else. Jimmy Irsay may continue to hijack & steal our history & legacy, but we all know he is nothing more than a fool. Since they have no legacy or history in Indy, he uses ours for his football team.

I am an original Baltimore Ravens season ticket holder & take my Dad with me to the games. It's nice to share with him what was stolen from us when I was younger.
My brother has 2 tickets also, so it's great for us to be together.

So PurpleRulz, I will never get over it, or move on. Don't tell me what to do or what or how to feel. I suspect that a majority of my fellow fans here will feel the same. You are entitled to your opinion, but your opinion is very, very wrong.

Also, how could the NFL own the logis & names? I thought they had final say & handled the marketing, but the teams owned the names & logos? That is why it was Modell's decision to leave behind the Browns name in Cleveland, & it was Irsay's right to try to extort $20-$25 million from Modell for the Colts name when the Ravens first came here.

[PARavensJeff]

What do you expect from Dick Stockton? He is a waste & how this guy still works for Fox is beyond me. Why does Bisciotti hire him every pre season for our pre season game. Aikman does a good job, just can Stockton Steve!!!

I am 39 but was raised on the Baltimore Colts. Mt Dad moved to Baltimore in 63 & proceeded to attend many Colts games in the 60's w/ my uncle. I have boxes of old BALTIMORE COLTS memorabialia. I watched many games of the Baltimore Colts with my Dad & listened to many on the radiodue to the blackouts. My Dad never took me to a Colts game, he was so pissed at what Irsay did to the team & decided he would never give Irsay any of his money. Sort of like we all are at Angelos for ruining the Orioles. I was 16 when the Cots were stolen from us & I remember it like it was yesterday. The wound will never heal or feel old. Everytime one of these TV fools talk about an INDIANAPOLIS COLTS player doing this or that, who cares, but they don't need to say they broke John Unitas' or Raymond Berry's or Lenny Moore's records. These guys from Indy never played 1 down in Baltimore, so to those of from here, who still get it, get mad & pissed when these TV idiots compare or talk to the Baltimore Colts. I will never go to the football Hall of Fame until they correct this immoral injustice that they have in their building. The 7 Baltimore Colts HOF'ers have never been to Indy, never embraced the Coltssince they left, have nothing to do with that town. They were Baltimore Colts and nothing else. Jimmy Irsay may continue to hijack & steal our legacy, but we all know he is nothing more than a fool.

I am an original Baltimore Ravens season ticket holder & take my Dad with me to the games. It's nice to share with him what was stolen from us when I was younger.
My brother has 2 tickets also, so it's great for us to be together.

So PurpleRulz, I will never get over it, or move on. Don't tell me what to do or what or how to feel. I suspect that a majority of my fellow fans here will feel the same. You are entitled to your opinion, but your opinion is very, very wrong.

[PurpleRulz]

You guys must understand that the franchise that left here is the same one that is in Indy. To separate the "Baltimore" and "Indy" legacy is ridiculous. They are one franchise. If a company leaves an area and moves to another town, nothing is owed to that town.

Again the logos and colors are property of the NFL and not Baltimore.

I am no fan of the Indy Colts just as I was no fan of the Baltimore Colts. I respect the legacy of the Baltimore Colts, but the Ravens are Baltimore's team.

How does NFL announcers, correctly linking Johnny U and Lenny Moore with the current Colts, take away from the memories of what those guys mean to this area? It doesn't.

I don't mean to start a riot, and sorry if I am hitting a sensitive nerve, but this is not a big deal to me.

[Mista T]

I respect the legacy of the Baltimore Colts, but the Ravens are Baltimore's team.

How does NFL announcers, correctly linking Johnny U and Lenny Moore with the current Colts, take away from the memories of what those guys mean to this area? It doesn't.

I don't mean to start a riot, and sorry if I am hitting a sensitive nerve, but this is not a big deal to me.

In the spirit of the way this board is intended to run, I won't tell you that you don't have a clue....:rolling:

Using your analogy, I guess we should be comparing Jamal Lewis' records to those of Jim Brown, and Steve McNair = Otto Graham. Right?

Sorry, just like I have absolutely no connection to records earned by the original Browns in Cleveland, the Indianapolis fan has no connection to Johnny Unitas and Lennie Moore.

The announcers should be fired.

:T2:

[FadeToBlack]

You guys must understand that the franchise that left here is the same one that is in Indy. To separate the "Baltimore" and "Indy" legacy is ridiculous. They are one franchise. If a company leaves an area and moves to another town, nothing is owed to that town.

This is wrong. When a company leaves an area, especially a big mega-corporation (like an NFL team), there isn't nearly as much of an attachment between the community and the company as there is between a community and their own football team. Technically you might be right as far as who owns what. But that's an extremely nearsighted way of looking at the situation. Kids and their families attach themselves very deeply to their team and bond with the players and each other as fans. That's important.

Baltimore was jobbed on the Colts deal and Cleveland got what Baltimore should have received. If Ravens attendance is any indicator, the NFL fucked up very bad with Baltimore. Very bad.

The NFL should really have stepped in and done something about the records. I can see allowing Indy to keep the name and the colors, because it helps market the team having a familiar name and look. But to deny Baltimore those records was a truly c_nt move.

And that's from me, a guy who was NOT a Colts fan growing up.

[PurpleRulz]

In the spirit of the way this board is intended to run, I won't tell you that you don't have a clue....:rolling:

Using your analogy, I guess we should be comparing Jamal Lewis' records to those of Jim Brown, and Steve McNair = Otto Graham. Right?

Sorry, just like I have absolutely no connection to records earned by the original Browns in Cleveland, the Indianapolis fan has no connection to Johnny Unitas and Lennie Moore.

The announcers should be fired.

:T2:

Of course the fans of Indy have no connection to Johnny U or Lenny Moore, but the franchise does.

When the Ravens moved here, the colors, logos, and legacy were left in Cleveland. Baltimore got a raw deal in that the colors and logos were not left here in Baltimore, but what's done is done.

Again, I fail to see how announcers mentioning Johnny U with Peyton Manning (for instance) takes away from our memories of Unitas here in Baltimore. Johnny Unitas is bigger than the city of Baltimore or Indy. Unitas transcended all sports.

[Mista T]

I fail to see how announcers mentioning Johnny U with Peyton Manning (for instance) takes away from our memories of Unitas here in Baltimore.

I'll try it in plain English.

What Peyton Manning does in Indianapolis shoud be no more relevant to Johnny Unitas' records than what Brady does in Foxboro or Favre does in Green Bay. There should be no connection.

The fact that the franchise moved is not relevant to Unitas' exploits in Baltimore. Jimmy Irsay is likely the only franchise link to Baltimore. So we Baltimore football fans and, in particular, the great Baltimore Colts players and their families should be humiliated by this TV announcer so Jimmy Irsay's ego gets stroked - while he's not popping pills?

[EAP52]

I am sorry, but I have to agree with PurpleRulz on this one. Yes, it stung a bit to hear the announcer say those things, but what is done is done. The franchise and it's records are now in Indy, as much as that hurts, it is the facts. The current "Colt" players are going to break records of our beloved Colt players. The night the Mayflower trucks moved the team out of Balitmore, they took the records/history with them.
We have the memories and most of the old players still consider Baltimore their town. Al though that is not enough, it says something about the history and the connection those PLAYERS made with the city. The franchise has moved on, we now have the Ravens.
It amazes me that people tell Browns fans to get over the move, when years later, Colt fans are doing the same. We have to face the fact that the records and colors are now in Indy.

[EAP52]

What Peyton Manning does in Indianapolis shoud be no more relevant to Johnny Unitas' records than what Brady does in Foxboro or Favre does in Green Bay. There should be no connection.

But Mista, I am sorry they are connected. They are connected because it is FRANCHISE record, not a city of Baltimore record.


Johnny = Baltimore COLTS
Peyton= Indy COLTS

Johnny and Peyton = The Colts franchise.

That may help make the connection.

[Rochardrik]

But Mista, I am sorry they are connected. They are connected because it is FRANCHISE record, not a city of Baltimore record.


Johnny = Baltimore COLTS
Peyton= Indy COLTS

Johnny and Peyton = The Colts franchise.

That may help make the connection.
I've never read anything sooo imbecilic, convoluded, wrong, misguided, and outright MORONIC!!!! You and purplerulz should be banished to the woodshed, and whupped!:insane:

[Losac]

PurpleRulz is right in that the national media really doesn't care about the Colts/Unitas/Baltimore connection. And most people outside of Baltimore really don't either.

I get upset hearing Unitas and Manning's name mentioned together too. Especially after Unitas died and Manning wanted to "honor" him by wearing the black high tops for the game. At least the NFL said he couldn't do it.

We as Baltimoreans understand this and it does upset us, but we should also understand that the rest of the league and country looks at the Colts as one franchise that played for 2 cities. It sucks, but that's the way it is.

[EAP52]

Not MORONIC, just the facts. Sorry if I don't wear the Colt goggles you and others have on. I see the whole picture.
Do I get upset about what was said, yes! It ticked me off big time. But at the same time I know that the announcers are doing their job and they are telling us facts about the Colt orgainzation. If you can't face the fact that the records the Colts established here in Baltimore, have followed them to Indy, perhaps it is you that should find their way to the woodshed. And if you are unable to see the conection, perhaps is not I that is the moron!

[ravenwoman]

If you are over 45 years old and remember Johhny Unitas playing in the 60's and 70's like I did, then persons of my generation get really hot at the mention of the old Baltimore Colts with the new Indianapolis Colts. Even the Colts of the prior generation do not want their names linked to Indianapolis.

Why do you think we have an Unitas Plaza, a Unitas statute, and a Ring of Honor containing "Johnny Unitas and the Baltimore Colts."? This was done to separate the history and championships that belongs to Baltimore as a city, not Indianapolis.

Indianapolis has never won a Super Bowl. Baltimore has 2 Super Bowls and 2 World Championships (1958-59).

As far as the Colts name and colors, they should have never left the city. The Colts stand for Baltimore's rich horse racing history and culture. What is an Indianapolis Colt anyway?

The national media expects us to get over it, and over it we are with the Ravens. But you can't change history, and some of us will go to our graves forever honoring the old Baltimore Colts and all they did for this city.

[middleriverterp]

Being that we were in the bye, I wore my Unitas jersey to celebrate the 50th anniversary. Needless to say me and the family went out to dinner and had the misfortune of running into an Indy Colts fan who tried to comiserate with me about missing the game. I told him that I could care less which team won and actually wished it could end in a loss for both teams. After he left our table with his tail between his legs and a confused look on his face, my wife asked me when I would get over it. I informed her, When the Hall of Fame moves Baltimore Colt records out of Indy's AO." She didn't even know this was happening, and I can count another convert to the "Screw Indy" team.

[PARavensJeff]

The reason people in Baltimore tell Cleveland to "Get over it" & we don't is, they got promised a team by the league, a new stadium, there colors & records, & a team in 3 years . What did we get? Screwed!!! 12 falls without a team, 12 falls where we couldn't connect with our families & community the way football helps people connect. Screwed in the phony expansion derby by that idiot Taglibue. So that is why people in Baltimore say "Get over it" to the losers in Cleveland. So EAP52, know your history.

[EAP52]

Bud, I know my history. Don't ever tell me that I don't. I understand it too. But, I am not going to get into a personal battle over this. The simple fact, back to the original post, is that the records are in Indy and will stay there, with the franchise. Why can't people get over that. Yes, the city of Cleveland was able to keep their records. Fair, no, but it is the FACT (part of history). Did the city of Baltimore get screwed by the expansion "derby", yes. There is no way a team should be in Jacksonville.
The fact of the matter is all of this is HISTORY and we all need to move on. My God, it seems like we are all in 1st grade here. Get over it, move on. Be proud of what the Colts did in Baltimore. Carry on tradition, which the city and Ravens have done. But, the records are not coming back, so GET OVER IT, move on.

[PARavensJeff]

My name's not Bud & I'm not in 1st grade. You don't need to be so dramatic.

See what happens when we have a bye & there's nothing to do?

[RavenTD]

Watching NFL films of Johnny U',and another of the NFL Championship game vs the Giants that put the NFL on the map.Was my first viewing of American football for me in the 1980's.And Johnny U means alot to me.

I did not go on and pick the Indianapolis Colts as my NFL team.I waited till Baltimore got a team.I can see where these NFL suits are coming from,
they are all on the surface people.Johnny U cuts deep.And Indianapolis don't deserve any part of that golden history.

[EAP52]

OK, gotcha. Just don't say that I don't know my history. I was at the games at Memorial Stadium. I do remember what trouble it was getting a team to Baltimore. I just wish we as a fanbase would move on from the idea that the records are coming back to B-more. They are not. We just have to do the best we can to remember the history of B-more football.

[PARavensJeff]

I know the records are gone & they are never coming back, & I am sure everyone else here knows that too. That said, everytime that nerve is touched by an inconsiderate talking head, we react.

How come no one else has agreed with me that Bisciotti should stop hiring Stockton to do our preseason games? The guy is terrible.

[Rochardrik]

Not MORONIC, just the facts. Sorry if I don't wear the Colt goggles you and others have on. I see the whole picture.
Do I get upset about what was said, yes! It ticked me off big time. But at the same time I know that the announcers are doing their job and they are telling us facts about the Colt orgainzation. If you can't face the fact that the records the Colts established here in Baltimore, have followed them to Indy, perhaps it is you that should find their way to the woodshed. And if you are unable to see the conection, perhaps is not I that is the moron!

"Perhaps is not I that is the moron"... That well may be the question AND
the answer.. Look, while what you say IS the reality of the situation, and nothing now can be done about it, it was, and is, wrong... just wrong. How do you argue w/ stoolerz when they say thay have 6 championships? According to them, we have 1. We have the greatest player of all time( arguably), but his name is in Indy? Because of BAD ownership? Think of today's orioles... it's the same thing. O's history is unmatched(except for those teams started in the early 1900's), and they could soon go the same route... because of BAD ownership. Where would you like to see Brooks and Cal's name enshrined? No, it is wrong and I for one do not have to UNDERSTAND! OR LIKE IT! OR ACCEPT IT!
P.S. I did not call you a moron.... hehehe

[cynicaljim]

FTR - I will never get over it:mad: and F- OFF to anyone who thinks I should:thumbup:

Tradition is what makes sports great for generations to come.Teams can move, but colors should stay.

I'd bet if the packers, bears, or steelers wanted to move their colors the national media would be singing a different tune.

The BALTIMORE COLTS and NY FOOTBALL GIANTS put football on the map and sent it on its present course of being the greatest sports league in the world.

So to all of you(media,fans,anybody with a pulse)who keep telling us to move on.Maybe you should be thanking us and get your head out of your ass,cause you wouldn't have football as you know it today without us from the past.:grbac:

[Rochardrik]

I know the records are gone & they are never coming back, & I am sure everyone else here knows that too. That said, everytime that nerve is touched by an inconsiderate talking head, we react.

How come no one else has agreed with me that Bisciotti should stop hiring Stockton to do our preseason games? The guy is terrible.

I agree! What the heck was he doing paired w/ Troy yesterday? I know the answer, Buck was busy... But Stockton? Stockton?... we not talkin 'bout a game, not a game, we talkin' Stocton!.... I personally never could stand the whiny Ache-man when he played or his "team" ..shudder... But his broadcast skills deserve better!!!!:hammer: :thumbdown: :hammer: :bag: :179421:

[Raineman]

Losac brought up my point about Manning "wanting" to honor J.U. by wearing the shoes, but did not want to pay the fine. (friggin pussy)

However, Chris Redman, (Johnny U's "boy") had no problem honoring #19 the appropriate way.

I watched the pathetic commentary too T. Sickening.

[Mobtown Matt]

However, Chris Redman, (Johnny U's "boy") had no problem honoring #19 the appropriate way. Right. He didn't even bother asking the NoFunLeague. He just wore 'em.
Best thing Redman ever did in a Ravens uniform.
:patriot:

And, I might add, best a Ravens uniform has ever looked. Bring on the black shoes.

[PeterB58]

As a Baltimore Colts fan and a Baltimore Ravens fan, I have no problem with Peyton Manning being mentioned in the same context as Johnny Unitas. They are/were both one of the best QBs of their generation and I am certain Manning will be with Unitas in the HOF five years after he retires.

Regarding the shoes....there is a quote from Manning in the new book out about Unitas stating that he wishes in retrospect that he would have just worn the shoes and not asked permission before-hand. That fact that he even thought of it in the first place is good enough for me; he's a class act.

As for the records. I will admit that I was upset when they stated that Harrison had tied Moore's record for franchise TD receptions. But the more I think about it, the more I think that it is the Indy fans and their players that are getting short-changed with having to share their history.

It's a personal thing wether one can "get over it" or not; as for me, I will never forget the Baltimore Colts, but I don't hold a grudge versus the present team in Indianapolis.

[camdenyard]

I got over it a long time ago, and it's a mystery why more people haven't.

You are talking about numbers, people. Just numbers.

What I have are memories of the Baltimore Colts (the Jones era onward, anyway). Players and owners can change, franchises can move, stadiums can be torn down. But nobody can take my memories.

Indy people can't recall with warm feelings the Fog game, the Joe Washington Show on MNF or the double-OT playoff game.

I've been to Indy for a Ravens game and most of those hayseeds are clueless. It's enough for me that they have never tasted the nectar of a Super Bowl win. I continue to root against them because of Irsay, but other than that I couldn't care less.

[ClericBlackDave]

This is obviously an age/maturity level issue.


You wont see anyone of a older age / higher maturity level saying to forget the fact that the Colts were stolen.


Its an idea you hear from Ravens Fans 25 and younger who have the feeling that the only thing that matters is the football that exists in Baltimore now, i.e. the Baltimore Ravens.


What they miss is that Baltimore had a rich football history before that, and it MATTERS.


It matters because of the attachment of the city to the heroes of those teams i.e. Unitas or Moore.


It matters because, back then, before half of the youngins posting on this board were born, Unitas and Moore were members of the BALTIMORE COMMUNITY, they lived here and died here. They had no association to Indianapolis whatsoever, and futhermore, their association with the Baltimore Colts was far more an association with BALTIMORE than it was with the COLTS and their idiot owners, the Irsays.


Its not something to forget or forgive.


History Matters. Younger, more immature people don't fully understand this, because they're only seeking to enjoy the current Baltimore football legacy.


But anyone in the know understands that Unitas united this city together. That the Baltimore Football heroes of the past were part of this community, and what they did on and off the football field was for Baltimore, NOT for the Irsays.


There should be no association between Manning and Unitas, and Manning or Moore. Its disgusting.


Unitas was more interested in trying to help out Chris Redman and the Baltimore Ravens than he was tyring to associated himself with Peyton Manning, by far the sexier pick at QB.


Why?


Because Unitas loved Baltimore. He loved this city, and the blood sweat and tears he left on the field sundays at Memorial Stadium was for the Baltimore Community.


If you dont get it, its definitely age/maturity, and there really isn't anything to do besides let you think that the baltimore football begins and ends with the Ravens, when in fact, it does. Shit, lets not forget the Stallions or the Stars, either.

[Rochardrik]

I got over it a long time ago, and it's a mystery why more people haven't.

You are talking about numbers, people. Just numbers.

What I have are memories of the Baltimore Colts (the Jones era onward, anyway). Players and owners can change, franchises can move, stadiums can be torn down. But nobody can take my memories.

Indy people can't recall with warm feelings the Fog game, the Joe Washington Show on MNF or the double-OT playoff game.

I've been to Indy for a Ravens game and most of those hayseeds are clueless. It's enough for me that they have never tasted the nectar of a Super Bowl win. I continue to root against them because of Irsay, but other than that I couldn't care less.

Memories of the colts... from Bert Jones on..... Well, then you cannot, could not, will not understand. While there were some great moments, memories from that era, we're talking Apples n' Oranges here, BC 'n AD, old school, new school. If you don't personally remember the late 50's and all of the 60's, no disrespect intended, you aren't qualified to speak on the subject!
No matter what Manning does, how many records he breaks, Unitas' or otherwise, he(Manning) didn't transform the game!, he didn't MAKE the NFL!, and he didn't, doesn't, do it here! Sure, Ive gotten over it, for Chrissake, I'm a diehard Ravens fan! But I don't like it, can't stand the comparisons, and inclusions of the current colts, and the REAL colts!:grbac:

[PurpleRulz]

Stan Charles mentioned on WJFK this afternoon how Baltimoreans can be shortsighted due to having an "inferiority complex." He may be on to something. To get this worked up over this is just ridiculous, because no one and nothing can take away from Unitas's value and legend in Baltimore.

Let the NFL announcers make their comparisons between past Colts legends and current Colts stars. There is nothing inappropriate about that.

We are a city that bleeds purple and black and not blue and white.

Treasure the past and stop living in it. The object of walking is to move forward and not backwards. Hate to be insensitive, but this is really silly and makes Baltimore fans appear to have this "inferiority complex" that Stan Charles spoke about earlier today.

[Mista T]

Stan Charles can jump us my ass! :taz: There's no "inferiority complex" about being bitter about having our team's records stolen and having to listen to media morons throw it up in our faces like it didn't happen.

:mrt:

[purplepoe]

Why don't you ask Stan the Fan why he ran Eddie Murray out of town while he's talking about our inferiority complex.

What a dick that guy is.

PP

[Rochardrik]

Stan Charles mentioned on WJFK this afternoon how Baltimoreans can be shortsighted due to having an "inferiority complex." He may be on to something. To get this worked up over this is just ridiculous, because no one and nothing can take away from Unitas's value and legend in Baltimore.

Let the NFL announcers make their comparisons between past Colts legends and current Colts stars. There is nothing inappropriate about that.

We are a city that bleeds purple and black and not blue and white.

Treasure the past and stop living in it. The object of walking is to move forward and not backwards. Hate to be insensitive, but this is really silly and makes Baltimore fans appear to have this "inferiority complex" that Stan Charles spoke about earlier today.

Just another poster unqualified to speak on the subject, and another talking head similarly unqualified.. Look, we know what has happened cannot be undone! We also know that for the most part, the commentators are oblivious to the truths behind the whole debacle! It doesn't change the facts, or the feelings it left us with, in fact it just heightens the injustices!!!!The city of Baltimore is Hugely responsible for the successes of the NFL today, and instead of being appreciated for it, and understood by these Unknowing blatherers, they put the "inferiority complex " tag on us.Go figure!:insane: :bag: :thumbdown: :grbac: :embarassed:

[PARavensJeff]

Stan Charles did run Eddie out of town as PurplePoe says, or led the charge for it to happen. He is a suck up to Angelos, with those softball questions he gave him in that PressBox interview.

He's another one of these guys who thinks he knows more than the rest of us & then tries to shove it down our throats. Maybe he has an"inferiority complex" since he has to work woth Miss Miami.