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HoustonRaven
12-27-2007, 06:39 AM
The media's one lonely source on Billick's job status is backing off. Read about half way down and Preston admits he doesnt have a clue if Billick is staying or going.
I wish this guy would make up his mind what voice in his head he wants to believe. :insane:
http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/football/bal-prestonqa1223,0,12825.story
highwater
12-27-2007, 06:57 AM
I wish this guy would make up his mind what voice in his head he wants to believe. :insane:
Just my two cents, but if I were you I'd just stop reading that guy's garbage. He thinks it's his job to be provocative, and being accurate, fair or factual take a distant back seat.
As a hard-core Ravens fan, I generally read anything Ravens-related, but I gave up on that moron a while back. He has nothing new to say anyway. You know a columnist is bad when you can read the headline above the column and know exactly what he's written.
And as far as Ravens news and opinions go, you can get more from this board than you will get from him. As you pointed out yourself a few weeks ago, he could be getting his material from us, for all we know.
HoustonRaven
12-27-2007, 08:01 AM
Just my two cents, but if I were you I'd just stop reading that guy's garbage. He thinks it's his job to be provocative, and being accurate, fair or factual take a distant back seat.
As a hard-core Ravens fan, I generally read anything Ravens-related, but I gave up on that moron a while back. He has nothing new to say anyway. You know a columnist is bad when you can read the headline above the column and know exactly what he's written.
And as far as Ravens news and opinions go, you can get more from this board than you will get from him. As you pointed out yourself a few weeks ago, he could be getting his material from us, for all we know.
I love pointing out the absurd I suppose.
festivus
12-27-2007, 08:01 AM
What makes him the "one" source? Lots of journalists have reported Billick is returning. Aren't they sources on Billick's job status too?
HoustonRaven
12-27-2007, 08:04 AM
What makes him the "one" source? Lots of journalists have reported Billick is returning. Aren't they sources on Billick's job status too?
They were all using (including Mortenson over at ESPN) Preston's report. AP and others were directly quoting from Preston's article -- i.e. "Sources tell The Baltimore Sun that .... " Blah, Blah, Blah ....
festivus
12-27-2007, 08:16 AM
Even the guys at NST? Got it from Preston? I find that hard to believe. . .
Anyway I can't believe you got me to read that crap. :grbac:
HoustonRaven
12-27-2007, 08:21 AM
Even the guys at NST? Got it from Preston? I find that hard to believe. . .
Anyway I can't believe you got me to read that crap. :grbac:
YES!!! This whole debacle was started by that big-headed dufus .... now he is backing down. I bet he got spanked by the higher-ups.
festivus
12-27-2007, 08:23 AM
Houston, the day Drew F. uses Mike Preston as a source is the same day I will eat my own underpants for breakfast.
highwater
12-27-2007, 08:51 AM
I thought it was Jamison Hensley that wrote the story in the Sun a few weeks ago that Billick was coming back, not Preston. Either way, it was all speculation based on a typically anonymous source.
No one relies on Preston for actual news, he's basically just a gossip columnist.
Bez513
12-27-2007, 10:40 AM
Let's just hope he's wrong and Billick doesn't come back...we need to start fresh.
purplepoe
12-27-2007, 10:41 AM
Houston, the day Drew F. uses Mike Preston as a source is the same day I will eat my own underpants for breakfast.
Bacon strips?
:D
PP
festivus
12-27-2007, 11:11 AM
Actually, yes, it's bets like this that cause me to wear bacon underpants. ;)
FellsPointRaven
12-27-2007, 11:11 AM
I thought it was Jamison Hensley that wrote the story in the Sun a few weeks ago that Billick was coming back, not Preston. Either way, it was all speculation based on a typically anonymous source.
No one relies on Preston for actual news, he's basically just a gossip columnist.
It was Hensley. I seriously doubt he'd break the story as fact unless he was damn sure Billick would be sticking around.
I've found Preston to be on the money more often than not this year. He may have an overtly negative style, but it's his job to be provocative.
Rick Maese is the one who gets me. That guy flat out sucks.
highwater
12-27-2007, 12:24 PM
He may have an overtly negative style, but it's his job to be provocative.
He MAY have an overtly negative style? You think? :laugh:
As far as "it's his job to be provocative," it may be, he certainly thinks so, but I don't personally like reading bullshit when I know the writer is trying "to be provocative." It doesn't really take a lot of talent "to be provocative." It's lazy and petty. Unfortunately, there is a lot of that going around these days.
Drkraven
12-27-2007, 04:19 PM
Actually a few weeks ago on Inside the NFL on HBO, Peter King explained that he was told to tun with the story because an opinion journalist reported in the Baltimore Sun that BB was being canned and the Ravens deemed him not credible.
highwater
12-27-2007, 04:59 PM
Actually a few weeks ago on Inside the NFL on HBO, Peter King explained that he was told to tun with the story because an opinion journalist reported in the Baltimore Sun that BB was being canned and the Ravens deemed him not credible.
Sorry if I'm a little slow today, but I don't really understand what you just wrote. Peter King said on HBO that he ran with a story because an opinion journalist for the Sun wrote that Billick would get fired but the Ravens told King he wasn't credible?
What story did Peter King run with, that Billick was coming back? And he actually ran it past the Ravens FO to see if they agreed? Did he really think they were going to tell him exactly what's going on?
And calling Preston an "opinion journalist" is actually the nicest thing anyone could say about him.
df1570
12-27-2007, 05:21 PM
I first reported that Billick was coming back on the Thursday morning following the 21-7 home loss to the Bengals. Of course, that was met with great skepticism from some...but I knew then I was right.
Right around that time, Peter King, Adam Schefter and Chris Mortensen all reported it and NONE OF THEM got it from The Sun. I'm sure those three guys got it from the same source that I did.
The Sun and WJFK didn't report that Billick was returning until the week after the Colts home game.
Not sure why it took them both that long, but it did.
Drkraven
12-27-2007, 05:35 PM
Sorry if I'm a little slow today, but I don't really understand what you just wrote. Peter King said on HBO that he ran with a story because an opinion journalist for the Sun wrote that Billick would get fired but the Ravens told King he wasn't credible?
What story did Peter King run with, that Billick was coming back? And he actually ran it past the Ravens FO to see if they agreed? Did he really think they were going to tell him exactly what's going on?
And calling Preston an "opinion journalist" is actually the nicest thing anyone could say about him.Thats what I get for posting and yelling at the kids:grbac: This is the gist of it from Kevin Byrnes Blog
HOT SEAT
We’re 4-5, same as the Bears, Saints, Chiefs, Broncos, and a couple of others. We’re one game behind 5-4 teams like Cleveland, the Chargers, Seahawks and Tampa Bay. But, all of the sudden Brian Billick is on the hot seat by some media members. As Brian knows, that comes with the territory, and he certainly isn’t whining about it. His comment is always the same: “It is what it is.”
Here’s how these things snowball. A Baltimore columnist, who is paid for writing his opinion, wrote last Monday that Coach Billick should be fired.
We now take you to New York to the studios for HBO as the staff prepares for this week’s “Inside the NFL” edition. Show contributor Peter King, who also covers the NFL for Sports Illustrated and NBC-TV (he’s part of the Sunday night NFL show), is in a pre-show production meeting with the talent (including Dan Marino, Cris Collinsworth, etc.) and the show’s producers. One of the producers throws a copy of the Baltimore “Fire Billick” column on the table and tells Peter that “we need to talk about this on the show.”
Peter is one of the best and a very responsible and respected reporter. He calls me from the studio and said: “Hey, I’ve got to talk about the fire Billick movement. Is there anything to it internally?”
Emphatically, I tell King: “Brian is our head coach. He will be our head coach next year. It’s a partnership here. The owner (Steve Bisciotti) and Ozzie (Newsome) are part of the partnership. There are no scapegoats here. Those guys, and others, are working together to make us better and intelligently assess why we’ve gone from 13-3 to 4-5.”
Peter said thanks and said he had to run to the show’s taping. I watched the show Wednesday night, and Peter told the audience the truth: Brian will be the Ravens’ head coach next seasohttp://boards.baltimoreravens.com/index.php?automodule=blog&blogid=15&&st=5
A bit different then the show but the gist of it.
highwater
12-27-2007, 05:49 PM
Thanks for the clarification, Drkraven and Drew.
HoustonRaven
12-29-2007, 09:52 AM
Sorry if I'm a little slow today, but I don't really understand what you just wrote. Peter King said on HBO that he ran with a story because an opinion journalist for the Sun wrote that Billick would get fired but the Ravens told King he wasn't credible?
Journalist rely on each other all the time. When one reports a story, they all follow suit saying "Sources told The Baltimore Sun ...." and that's how a story usually goes national.
What story did Peter King run with, that Billick was coming back? And he actually ran it past the Ravens FO to see if they agreed? Did he really think they were going to tell him exactly what's going on?
Nobody from the front office has gone on record that Billick will be back. Do it yourself and you will see. Call their media rep and ask her yourself. This whole fiasco was started by Plumpy Preston and his uninformed idiots over at The Setting Sun. They need to promote Steele and Schmuck post haste!
And calling Preston an "opinion journalist" is actually the nicest thing anyone could say about him.
Amen to that!
festivus
12-29-2007, 10:39 AM
Journalist rely on each other all the time. When one reports a story, they all follow suit saying "Sources told The Baltimore Sun ...." and that's how a story usually goes national.
That's just plain wrong, or at the very best, a gross oversimplification.
When 1300 disemboweled a goat and read its entrails to say that McAlister would be down for such and such number of weeks, despite the fact that medically such a diagnosis was *unknowable* at the time, there is a reason no other station in print, media or on the air, ran with it.
They have their own credibility, and do their own fact checking.
Preston Back-Peddles
Does he have one of those back up warning devices? I thought I heard a loud beeping coming from downtown B-more.
HoustonRaven
12-29-2007, 12:40 PM
Does he have one of those back up warning devices? I thought I heard a loud beeping coming from downtown B-more.
Buhahahahahaha! :laugh:
Mwjergs
12-31-2007, 11:59 AM
Preston feels his job is to be controversial.
He often lets his personal feeling cloud true objective judgement of the team. If you read his column enough you can see that he actually does have some good insights into the game and the team. But, his constant sarcastic comments, and veiled "inside" sources show that he isn't a true journalist. Just one of the guys that wants to "stir things up". He somehow thinks that's his job.
I started disliking his writing back in 1999. The Ravens had won their first big game against a playoff team in the Titans. A blowout that I attended with my brother and father. I had never seen so many happy people at a sporting event. People felt like the team was turning the corner and could maybe even contend for a playoff game. What does Preston write on Monday? "Don't get too excited." Could you have at least waited until even Tuesday to voice that opinion? It shows you don;t know who you write for. That opinion may be a vaild one but in light of everything that had gone on and now finally the team has seen success instead of writing something positive, you have to go the other direction.
I think that just proves that he thinks it's his job to report this way.
I don't need a homer on the paper but I as well, I don't need the constant negativity, cheap shots, and contempt for those in charge.
You think the team has tuned out Billick.
I cancelled my Sun because of him.