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PurpleRulz

11-14-2006, 05:50 AM

It could be that Billick is the only one that can effectively run his own offense? Why hire an OC when it seems that Billick is doing fine calling the plays. The players seem to like having more access to Billick, so why break up that momentum by hiring an OC or giving the job to Slick Rick?

With the young offensive talent coming of age (and maybe a hope of adding OL depth and drafting a RB in the 1st round), Billick now has the talent to make the offense more complex.

I think Billick should just remain as the OC after this season, and even if he gets his contract extension.

AZRAVEN

11-14-2006, 11:03 AM

To soon to make that call for me, out of his three games at the head of the offense we've had a couple good efforts and one potential clinker where it looked for all the world like we weren't ready to play when the game started. I want to see more effort consistently. I still worry about his unwillingness to sit "his guys" when they shoud be.

ravenjoe

11-14-2006, 11:19 AM

I believe BB has the right 'feel' for this offense, and personally would heartily endorse (and encourage) his return as OC next year!

highwater

11-14-2006, 12:40 PM

I would be fine with Billick continuing to call the plays. They are 3-0 since he started the play calling. What's not to like about those results? The offense just looks more focused since Billick took over -- maybe it's just his presence in the game planning, not his actual play calls, but whatever it is, something is working.

flraven

11-14-2006, 01:25 PM

I'd be fine with BB calling the plays next season. Highwater is right, the team seems to have some renewed energy and just is playing better now. Perhaps the players are playing harder because they now have input into the game plan. Like that old saying "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."

UKRaven

11-14-2006, 01:35 PM

Head Coach or nothing I suspect!

sailorsam

11-14-2006, 07:50 PM

if it ain't broke, don't fix it. maybe Neuheisel can be OC and run practices etc, and BB can still call the plays.
it helps to have good assistants at D (Ryan) and spec teams (Gansz).
I heard somewhere, BB is the only NFL head coach acting as OC, and Freidgen is the only college coach doing the same. howzat for conicidence?

gusbus52

11-14-2006, 08:36 PM

We're 7-2. Whats next year?

GreenWave52

11-14-2006, 11:54 PM

I heard somewhere, BB is the only NFL head coach acting as OC, and Freidgen is the only college coach doing the same.
That just isn't true. There are handful of pro coaches (Gruden for example)that double as OC's and quite a number of college head coaches call their offense (Spurrier for example).

As far as Brian staying on as our OC, I hope so. I at least hope he calls the gameday plays and continues to work with the players like his is now. Since he has taken over we went from 28th to 21st in just 3 weeks, scoring 35, 26, amd 27 points respectively. We have seen what 2 bad OCs did with Billick's system, maybe the Guru is the only one who knows how to run it well.

Brandon

11-15-2006, 06:28 AM

I don't think it would be a good idea for Billick to remain the OC for next year and beyond.

Do you realize how much time he has to put into being the OC right now? It takes time away from him being the "Head Coach" of the team. It may be working out this year, but that's this year. He took over as the OC position, because his job was on the line, and if he was going to go out, it was going to be that way.

I could see Rick Neuhisel being promoted to OC beginning next season assuming he doesn't get a head coaching job on the College level.. Neuhisel is seeing now, how Brian wants the offense run. He is seeing the organized and detailed meetings that Brian has with the offense, which seem to be successful.

It would be wise to see someone within the organization promoted to the OC next year, so that Billick can go back to his regular duties of managing the whole team and not just the offense.

CrowMST3k

11-15-2006, 10:21 AM

There is no question:

Billick should never again give up his offensive coordinator status.

He is the offensive genius, he has really been showing it since taking over. Honestly, a big problem with our coaching staff was the severe amount of bloat as far as assistants go. We had far too many.

I feel that the fewer men between Billick and his offense, the better.

ExiledRaven

11-15-2006, 10:27 AM

Well, OC he may never remain...but I think Billick calling the plays is working so far...if we go anywhere, you stick with what works.

Hope we can keep putting up points.

Anyone else notice that we're essentially a passing team now?

52decleetzu

11-15-2006, 10:31 AM

If you watched Wired last night,you could see the interaction that Billick now has with the offense,in particular McNair.One time on the bench Billick was basically asking McNair what he wanted to do,I think they were talking about route combinations after they saw how the Titans were playing us.

If this offense continues to climb like it has been throughout the rest of the year I would think that noone at 1 winning drive would be behind Billick giving up the play calling.

We now have the right guy calling the plays and the right players to execute those plays,something we have never had before and that shouldnt change under any circumstance.

RAVENOUS52

11-17-2006, 03:52 PM

They don't call him "The Genius" for nothing.

Lord Billick can write his own ticket as a record-setting OC and a SuperBowl winning Head Coach.

AZRAVEN

11-17-2006, 08:15 PM

[QUOTE=52decleetzu;18361]If you watched Wired last night,you could see the interaction that Billick now has with the offense,in particular McNair.One time on the bench Billick was basically asking McNair what he wanted to do,I think they were talking about route combinations after they saw how the Titans were playing us.

I don't get to see that program so I'll take your word for what happened. It would, however, cause me to wonder why we need coaches at all, just let the players decide what they want to do. :grbac:

Tspot-D-Ravenator

11-17-2006, 08:24 PM

Prolific

11-20-2006, 12:11 PM

Ah, that one question that naws at every fan of the Ravens in one capacity or another. Will Billick remain OC once this season is over with?

To me that's a question that's too early to answer. Since Billick took over the play-calling the Ravens have been much improved offensively, that is true.

But we also must consider a few factors that either directly or indirectly influence the Ravens down the road. For instance, how long will Billick be able to keep up this pace?

There's alot more that goes into occupying dual roles that involve much time, effort and attention to detail. I don't care who you are, that's gonna play a role over time.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/media/photo/2006-10/26153083.jpg

While Billick a.k.a. 'Compu-Coach' has a tremendous amount of attention for detail, running both the entire offense and the team has to have some ramifications at some point.

Second, he's only able to do what he's doing because of the staff that he's surrounded with. Guys like Rex, 'Slick-Rick', Mike Johnson, Gansz Jr. and of course LB coach Jeffy Fitz to mention a few are for the the most part above average.

Hypothetically speaking, even if the Ravens only make it to the playoffs a number of these guys could be moving on to higher positions next year. At the top of that list could possibly be DC Rex Ryan who's overdue for the recognition that he deserves for spearheading the Ravens attack-style defense. (plus he's a great guy and truly a 'player's coach)

Heck if friggin Mike Nolan can get an H.C. job off of the Ravens, why not Rex who IMO is a better D.C. (don't flame me, it's just my opinion)

We just don't know how different the coaching staff that has so thoroughly picked up whatever slack that Billick handling dual roles creates will be next season.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/media/photo/2006-10/25941620.jpg

You've got to figure that the Ravens are going to lose at least two of these guys which depending on who goes really can shake up the Ravens strong coaching structure.

Third and finally, it may be a moot point anyway since Billick already has his heir-apparent already lined up for the gig in 'Slick-Rick' Neuheisel. While he's shown up to be a sharp cookie, until he's actually handed the reigns of the offense we just don't know what that is going to produce.

And I guess you could classify me as a 'hugger', I actually like Billick and his confident swagger that rubs off on my team in bunches. Billick is the only head coach I wanna see for my Ravens and I've always felt that way.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/media/photo/2005-04/17295807.jpg

I guess that my whole point in this is that we just don't know enough yet to do more that just speculate. Alot may change betweeen this season and next and it's probably a good idea to just sit back, enjoy the ride and hope that our team is lucky enough and talented enough to win another SuperBowl.

Just my opinion.-Pro-

RAVENOUS52

11-21-2006, 12:01 AM

I guess you could classify me as a 'hugger', I actually like Billick and his confident swagger that rubs off on my team in bunches. Billick is the only head coach I wanna see for my Ravens and I've always felt that way.

Amen my brother!!:thumbup:

ravenwoman

11-21-2006, 11:59 AM

I think this past week shows that he can make some dramatic adjustments at halftime and the open communication with the players make them feel that their imput counts. This is the best the offense has ever been and it improves every week.

Yes, I would like him to continue the playcalling as long as he is the head coach. I would also like the Ravens to hire Vic Fannio (excuse the spelling) as a permanent coach as well. He has been working behind the scenes and his input is understated.

If the Ravens do hire an OC, I still want Billick calling the plays.