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Gabrosin
01-20-2008, 11:49 AM
An aspect of the John Harbaugh hire I haven't seen discussed is whether or not his presence (and the potential hire of Pat Shurmur at OC) will influence the Ravens to trade for Donovan McNabb and attempt to continue chasing a Super Bowl title with our current crop of veterans. I'm of mixed emotions about the idea; McNabb has a hard time staying healthy, but he also may have more good years left in him than Steve McNair did. I also don't like the thought of our cap space being sunk into yet another expensive QB. Plus, it would likely cost us a decent amount in terms of draft picks to acquire him. On the flip side, if he can help us contend over the next 1-3 years, possibly in conjunction with drafting a QB and letting him sit and learn from the bench rather than being rushed into starting, I'd feel pretty good about the idea of making the move. Thoughts?

AZRAVEN
01-20-2008, 11:58 AM
Lord I hope not. I like McNabb but for all the reasons you cite above I think it would be a mistake. Let's not follow the usual trend and make the Ravens a drop off point for players from the former team of the coach. I'd like to see a young guy either drafted or brought in, dump McNair and Boller and start over.

highwater
01-20-2008, 12:02 PM
Just because Harbaugh comes from the Eagles doesn't mean that he wants to bring along McNabb, nor does it mean the Eagles want to move him.

I happen to like McNabb, but I don't see him as a good fit here. If the Eagles practically give him away, then I'd be interested, but I doubt that will happen, so I'd pass.

StingerNLG
01-20-2008, 12:13 PM
Why is this a given. This is another 30+ QB who has begun to ring up a string of injuries and surgeries.

If replacing our QB's is deemed to be by the new coaches what needs to happen, then let's just go to the draft and quick screwing around with old stopgaps.

ravenwoman
01-20-2008, 12:23 PM
I listened to Gametime and they interviewed G.Cobb. from Philly. He said the Eagles are going to try to make a run for it this year and Donovan McNabb is very much in their plans this year. Furthermore, with our cap situation, D. McNabb is simply too expensive for the Ravens. I predict the next QB is not on our roster yet, but I don't think it will be D. McNabb.

pyite32
01-20-2008, 12:38 PM
Donovan McNabb is basically in the same situation physically as Steve McNair was when we got him, and we saw how long he lasted. (about 4.5 years less than we will be paying him for.):141847_smmackbottom

JimBone
01-20-2008, 07:26 PM
Why is this a given. This is another 30+ QB who has begun to ring up a string of injuries and surgeries.

If replacing our QB's is deemed to be by the new coaches what needs to happen, then let's just go to the draft and quick screwing around with old stopgaps.

Have we not been down the retread path enough. How about we develope a qb rather than expecting to find a savior in free agency. It might help to give him some protection. Just a thought.

jonboy79
01-20-2008, 09:19 PM
How about a more realistic pursuit of AJ Feeley?? Personally I pass unless we can get him for Boller or McNair, or get the same compensation for one of them as we give up for him...

Mista T
01-20-2008, 09:47 PM
I would love to see McNabb in purple. He is a notch or two above anyone on our payroll today.

His career status is far better than Mcnair's, who was fairly washed up in his last season as a Titan. I believe tat Mcnair has a good three to five years left in his arm.

However, I don't see it happening, unless Harbaugh were to pitch a fit to get him. Not only is McNair's salary too much to digest, but also the Eagles demands for draft picks would likely be too many.

GoldenArm22
01-21-2008, 12:24 AM
I think McNabb is a great player, but I don't want another older veteran as our starter. We need to get a young QB, whether it be Troy Smith (my personal choice) or someone else, and build the team around them.

HoustonRaven
01-21-2008, 10:02 AM
For those who want to see McNabb, take a look at our cap number and get back to me.

StingerNLG
01-21-2008, 04:45 PM
How about a more realistic pursuit of AJ Feeley?? Personally I pass unless we can get him for Boller or McNair, or get the same compensation for one of them as we give up for him...

AJ Feeley???

Perogative to hate Boller and McNair is fine. But AJ Feeley??

That one I don't get.

Dade
01-21-2008, 06:13 PM
Don't know how I feel about us pursuing McNabb just yet. I think he has 3-4 years in the tank. But I don't think Philly is done with him just yet. Even if they are they will ask alot for him. I think the best thing for us to do is to try and get as much for McNair we can get or just cut him. Draft a QB, and have open competition at camp between Boller, Troy, and drafted QB.

purplepoe
01-21-2008, 07:42 PM
McNabb started getting it together towards the end of the year.

Remember, he was coming off the knee surgery and was clearly not 100% at the beginning of the year.

The Eagles still have enough talent to compete for a playoff spot next year.

IIRC, a report came out some time during this season about what the Eagles would be looking for in a possible McNabb trade. I think it was something like three 1st round picks. If that's even CLOSE to what they want then they might as well not even bother shopping him.

PP

AZRAVEN
01-21-2008, 09:51 PM
I would love to see McNabb in purple. He is a notch or two above anyone on our payroll today.

His career status is far better than Mcnair's, who was fairly washed up in his last season as a Titan. I believe tat Mcnair has a good three to five years left in his arm.

However, I don't see it happening, unless Harbaugh were to pitch a fit to get him. Not only is McNair's salary too much to digest, but also the Eagles demands for draft picks would likely be too many.

T, was that a typeo? You can't seriously believe that McNair has 3-5 good years left. You've been panning that signing ever since we made it. I'm guessing you meant McNabb, no??

ladyraven127
01-22-2008, 05:31 AM
"get as much for McNair we can get or just cut him"

Cut him. He's done, cooked, fried. He came to camp out of shape and never got into shape. As bad as Boller was last year, McNair was ten times worse. He looked like he didn't want to be on the field and when he was he looked like he couldn't care less.

I was done with him after the playoff game against the Colts. :girlfight

Losac
01-22-2008, 09:01 AM
We already have one aging, injury prone QB on the roster. Pass.

We'll be in a great position to draft a franchise QB at #8. I say cut McNair and go into 2008 with Boller, Smith and a draft pick.

Fanman
01-22-2008, 09:39 AM
I would rather see them draft a QB....Ryan, get a legit free agent (need to check the list on that one), or try developing Smith and get a FA. I don't want Boller or McNair to be the starter. One is at the end of his career and feable and one has had more than his fair chance at proving he was capable.

FM

ExiledRaven
01-22-2008, 09:46 AM
I'm very torn on what to do at the moment.

I am really not sold on any of the QBs in the draft. I need to see more footage, but the senior QBs were outshone this year by "kids" like Sam Bradford. Dixon was special, but his game doesn't translate into the NFL with the run.

Developing Smith has appeal because he reminds me a lot of a young McNabb in his ability to move around. This also might be a reason for getting this Eagles QB coach to be the OC. Then you can stick with Boller at #2 or you can sign another vet that can give you a game or two if you really need that to happen.

I say pass....the draft/Smith make sense in developing for the future. There is also the option of keeping Boller for a year, use a 5th on Dennis Dixon and develop him as a backup option or potential competition with Smith.

Either way, I don't really like the option of McNabb...I'd rather have Jeff Garcia (I am not even joking)

GirlsKickButt
01-22-2008, 09:48 AM
It won't matter who is at QB, until the pass protection is corrected. There is a reason Tom Brady has set passing records this season and it's mostly because of the 5 offensive linemen in front of him (who give him enough time to throw that he could order Dominos back there).

I also find it amazing how everyone seems to forget Boller's performance against said Patriots.

ravensfan1996
01-22-2008, 11:01 AM
everything ive read and heard is mcnabb is staying in Philly. His type of injury needed a full year to recover, and he played much better after the "year mark", the last 4 or 5 games he played well.

p.s. its easy to forget that performance boller had after playing so poorly the very next week!

I think my ideal QB situatuion, would be mcnair decides to hang it up and takes a buyout. We draft a QB, and let boller and smith fight it out in preseason. IF and only IF a good QB become available in free agency, depending on who, id take a shot of that before drafting a new QB.

ExiledRaven
01-22-2008, 11:32 AM
It won't matter who is at QB, until the pass protection is corrected. There is a reason Tom Brady has set passing records this season and it's mostly because of the 5 offensive linemen in front of him (who give him enough time to throw that he could order Dominos back there).

I also find it amazing how everyone seems to forget Boller's performance against said Patriots.

Something else to consider is look at Brady 2006, and Brady 2007. Same line, added Stallworth, Moss, Welker, and healthy Waston.

I remember Boller against the Pats, but he, typically, followed it with something as bad as the previous week was good. Line play was also hugely worse.

New Coaching staff, let's see what happens.

StingerNLG
01-22-2008, 11:49 AM
The unknown is the new coaching staff.

Remember folks, there is a new offensive system getting ready to be installed here that none of us know yet. Lord, if it consists of a real screen pass it will be revolutionary to us.

Maybe one designed for Boller or Smith, if Harbaugh so chooses to keep or start them. Maybe not. Who knows.

I think we need to see what assessment Coach Harbaugh makes of the current QB's before we leap into who we're drafting or acquiring.

Hook
01-22-2008, 12:32 PM
I also find it amazing how everyone seems to forget Boller's performance against said Patriots.

who is forgetting his performance? He threw an interception when he had a man wide open in the end zone, towards the end of the game he couldnt get a 1st down and he had two series in which he could have milked the clock and we lost the game....NOBODY has forgotten anything.

darb72
01-22-2008, 09:48 PM
We'll draft a QB, but I think it will be on the second day. Boller and Smith will go in to training camp fighting for the top posistion. Someone mentioned Dixion in the fifth round and that sounds about right to me.

I'm more intrested in watching the play of the offensive line and if our new coaching staff actually lets the offense play TO WIN! Those two things will have a bigger impact on this team than a new QB.

highwater
01-23-2008, 06:56 AM
I remember Boller against the Pats, but he, typically, followed it with something as bad as the previous week was good.

Pretty much the whole team mailed it in after the Patriots game. Rolle and CMac didn't even play again after that, did they?

Ravens23
01-23-2008, 08:32 AM
We don't need another broken down QB. I agree with going with Troy Smith and (hopefully) drafting Matt Ryan. I think that dude could be the real deal..

Fanman
01-23-2008, 10:02 AM
The QB decision Harbaugh makes will likely make or break next season.
Billick never had a good system, and sucked at calling plays on gameday. If they go w/ Boller/Smith then we will see how much a new coach and system makes a difference. I really hope McNair is out of the mix....hang it up Steve.

FM

jonboy79
01-23-2008, 10:20 AM
I have really decided that Billick's biggest fault, in fact was his ability to put the best players on the field on sunday to win. Billick never played the hot hand, waited WAY to long to bench people and in general tried to enforce what he had already decided in his head to be true. FOr Example being certain that Mule was the best LG until he got hurt, and Jason Brown came in and made it obvious that wasn't true. His offense wasn't that bad, his playcalling wasn't that bad, well his time management was that bad too...

Sports Steve
01-23-2008, 02:03 PM
I hope not I want to get younger.


McNabb is had a lot of injuries



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