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Gabrosin
11-20-2006, 03:07 PM
I have to say, 8-2 feels damn good. This is really the first time I've ever felt like the Ravens have a complete team. There's still plenty of room for improvement, but as long as the offensive line continues its current level of play, there's also no glaring area of weakness. Our offense picks up for our defense; our defense picks up for our offense; our special teams have excelled in all facets. Every win a different set of players are contributing the most. Steve McNair plays smart and can bring us back in the fourth quarter. Mason, Clayton, and Heap provide a reliable set of targets that keep defenses guessing, and Demetrius Williams has shown some ability as a deep threat with speed and good hands. The offensive line has in many cases played well beyond their expectations. Kelly Gregg has been phenomenal, and Haloti Ngata looks like another first-round Baltimore star. Trevor Pryce has stayed healthy and been a huge factor; now his contract looks like a steal, compared to guys like John Abraham who can't stay on the field. Bart Scott and Adalius Thomas have made the world question whether Ray Lewis is still top dog in his own unit. Our secondary and our running game have both had bumpy rides so far, but they still provide a contribution in some weeks. Stover has been nearly perfect (thanks for that streak-tracking graphic Fox, you know how to ruin a good thing), Koch has shown great leg strength, and Sams just showed everyone what he's capable of. Our starters have stayed mostly healthy and our reserves haven't let us down, be it Jason Brown, Chris Chester, Jarret Johnson, Dennis Haley, or Ronnie Prude. Both of our losses have come against very good teams, and despite some scares, we've taken down every team that we were supposed to.

And the beauty of it all is that we're getting very, very little noise as a Super Bowl threat. People look at the Cleveland and Tennessee games and call us lucky; but the Colts can nearly slide against Tennessee and Buffalo, and they're favorites; the Bears can lose to the Dolphins and nearly tank against the Cardinals and they're the best in their conference; teams with huge question marks like the Broncos (Plummer), the Chargers (the secondary), the Giants (injuries and Eli), and the Patriots (the secondary again, and to some extent the receivers) are all mentioned as having a great chance to reach the big game.

The fact is, we're 8-2, one game back of the top seed in the AFC, with a head-to-head tiebreaker against the other team that shares our record (San Diego). With three games up on the Bengals, we've all but sealed the division title (something very few people were willing to even give us a chance at when the season started); we've still got four divisional games to go, and all six remaining contests are in conference, so we're in complete control of our chase for the division AND a first-round bye. And we've done all this while playing against the only two divisions that have three legitimate playoff contenders (SD, Denver, and KC in the AFC West, NO, Atlanta, and Carolina in the NFC South); we're 5-2 in games against those divisions so far.

We have three difficult road contests remaining, along with two home rivalry games against Pittsburgh and Cleveland. None of them are going to be easy, but I would favor the Ravens in every single one. The Chiefs are our only remaining opponent with a winning record. Meanwhile, Denver has to go to KC and SD and hosts Seattle and Cincy; San Diego hosts Denver and KC and travels to Seattle; New England hosts the Bears and travels to the Jaguars, plus road games against the Dolphins and Titans, either one of which could pull an upset. And while the Colts look to have a smooth road ahead, they still have to face a desperate Philly team, followed by travelling to Tennessee and Jacksonville and hosting Cincy.

If the Ravens stay focused, there's a very good chance of getting one of those top two seeds in the AFC... and an even better chance that no one will notice us doing it, caught up in the hype of Manning and Brady and Rivers and Grossman and hell, even Tony Romo.

After a few seasons of failing to live up to expectations, it's a welcome change to be forgotten. May the NFL and the media lose sight of us completely, until we're holding the Lombardi trophy.

Canuckofithaca
11-20-2006, 06:07 PM
i honestly think this is our season. I'm not just saying this as a Ravens fan, i have had seasons where i gave us no chance, but this year has such a good feeling to it.

RAVENOUS52
11-21-2006, 12:55 AM
Things certainly do appear to be moving in our favor thusfar.

Steady improvement one game at a time will put us in the best possible position to succeed come money-time...

UKRaven
11-21-2006, 01:54 AM
At the moment we are in a good position - all that could change with one or two bad games. I feel it vital we get (at least) the second seed since:
we play well after a week off and we will not win in New England!
I'd sooner take my chances against the Colts.
There is still a lot to play for, and a lot of other teams are in a worse postition than us.

kiwiraven
11-21-2006, 03:44 AM
and an even better chance that no one will notice us doing it, caught up in the hype of Manning and Brady and Rivers and Grossman and hell, even Tony Romo.

Exactly.

It's funny how the Chargers are the "second best team" in the AFC, when we beat them, and have the same record. At the very least we would be tied!

Anyway, I don't really care. I'd rather be under the radar and let the rest of the league "experts", analysts, and ESPN heads continue to drool over the rest of the league's pretty boys.

Merlin
11-21-2006, 05:17 AM
The less media recognition the better

We'll show our stripes in the next 3 games -- Steelers, Bengals and KC in 3 weeks. KC has a great record at home. We'll be going on the road to the Bengals with 3 days rest.

3-0 -- I won't believe it, but I'm hoping
2-1 -- I'm expecting this, but not sure which game we'll lose
1-2 -- Loss at KC and Cincy real potentials -- we may be underdogs in both games
0-3 -- Any momentum we have is completely lost

Canuckofithaca
11-21-2006, 09:36 PM
hey, kiwi raven, when you say all blacks, do you mean New zealand?

sailorsam
11-22-2006, 05:28 AM
if we win 4 of 6 we take the div no matter what anyone else does. if we go 3-3, cinci would have to win out and hope for a tiebreaker. figuring San Diego and Denver and KC will give each other at least one loss, and the Pats lose at least one more (hopefully more), Ravens have a great shot at #2 seed. everything starts over in the playoffs, but considering track records I'm not worried about going to Indi. Ravens showed could handle Denver; already beat Chargers. the Patriots are my biggest worry; this is where the home field advantage would be huge.
bottom line; the Ravens are practically already in the playoffs; they control own destiny, which is all you can ask. I don't see a collapse. worst case scenario, McNair gets hurt, I think Kyle could win a few for us.
we'll see.
ps; da Bears are one Grossman injury away from being a non-factor; aside from them, the NFC is a joke.

highwater
11-22-2006, 08:08 AM
I think it's interesting that some of us like flying under the radar and sneaking up on teams, but others seem pissed over the lack of recognition. I guess we collectively can't make up our minds.

I personally like the low profile, but it won't last if we keep winning.

sailorsam
11-24-2006, 04:58 PM
looks like the Broncos were #2 seed Sunday morning, and dropped to #6 Thursday night. good news for us; the bad news is, the Ravens could drop almost as fast, with these last six games, none of them a gimme.
I like being ignored. get into the Festivus, and they won't be able to ignore us!!!

psuasskicker
11-24-2006, 07:27 PM
We're in no way under the radar at 8-2...


we play well after a week off and we will not win in New England!

New England is 2-3 at home and 5-0 on the road. Right now I think I'd prefer to play in New England! :p

- C -

sailorsam
11-25-2006, 05:25 AM
first, the Ravens haven't beaten the Pats for a while. not the Colts either, but I think they'd match up better. Second, I really thing Belichek (sp?) will get things turned up a notch in the playoffs.
I haven't seen them (the Pats) much this year, so maybe they've deteriorated more than I realize; I hope so.
correction; the Broncos are now #5 seed, not #6.