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RavenScallywag
04-14-2008, 12:41 PM
Ok, so after watching the NFL Networks profile the draft QBs...I'm pumped and want to dicsuss: Which QB represents the smartest decision for the Ravens? In the discussion, consider round they would be taken at vs talent level...

So going down the Day 1 QBs:

Matt Ryan - early to mid 1st - Ryan is probably the most NFL ready prospect...excels in the short to mid range passes, which is our bread and butter...showed athleticism at the combine, but isn't too mobile...great leader on the field and can read defenses well

Brian Brohm - mid 1st to early 2nd - Good arm strength, good accuracy...quiet, but still a leader...somewhat mobile

Joe Flacco - late 1st to mid 2nd - Very good arm strength...good accuracy...mobility is limited...solid leader...more of a project QB, since he hasn't played against top competition

Chad Henne - early to late 2nd - THE Arm of the Draft...Accuracy is just average...mobility is very limited...Great on field leader

Andre Woodson - mid 2nd to early 3rd - Mobility is very good...Good arm strength and accuracy, but suffers from a wind up problem in his delivery...Hard worker, decent leader.

John David Booty - 3rd rounder - Very accurate...weak arm strength...not very mobile...needs lots of seasoning

Erik Ainge - 3rd-4th rounder - Accuracy is okay...Good arm strength...Not very mobile...another project type QB

Josh Johnson - 3rd-4th rounder - Draws comparison to Vince Young...needs seasoning at a higher level of play...Doesn't yet have the ability to read complex defenses...good physical tools

Obviously, Ryan or Brohm would be the most NFL ready, but both would come at a high cost in terms of liability/money. On the other side, a guy like Ainge or Johnson probably would be a little too project like, especially when we have a similar type QB in Troy Smith.

I think I'd rank them like this:

1. Joe Flacco
2. Matt Ryan
3. Brian Brohm
4. Chad Henne
5. Andre Woodson
6. Josh Johnson

Booty and Ainge I'd leave off the list.
4G63
04-14-2008, 01:15 PM
Dennis Dixon.

He'll need an extra year of rehab and he could learn the new playbook. Plus, he'll be in the 4th round or later and we could get him for nothing, just like Troy Smith!?! http://forums.evolutionm.net/images/smilies/dunno.gif
UKRavenStockers
04-14-2008, 02:10 PM
1) Henne - Game manager, give him a defence (we can) and a running game (we can) and let him keep the chains moving.
2) Brohm - He's learned the hard way how about losing and playing as a top QB on a bad team, he was not the reason Louisville were a poor team this year, he was still playing his ass off. I think he's a more rounded football player and prospect for the added experience of having to go through a tough season.
3) Josh Johnson - Most talented QB in the draft, needs time so gives us time to see what we have with Smith but Johnson can be the best QB in this draft.
4) Ryan - Don't like him as a prospect at #8, too much money for a guy who likely won't be lite.
5) Flacco - Not at all sold, for whatever reason.
6) Woodson - Love his lack of INTs in the SEC, but as Mike Mayock described and showed with an excellent segment he has some hideous inconsistencies with his accuracy on the same throws. Inconsistencies in accuracy that are as wild as Woodson's simply won't fly in the NFL.
HoustonRaven
04-14-2008, 02:21 PM
This will be a moot thread if we pick a DB .... which is VERY possible!
UKRavenStockers
04-14-2008, 02:48 PM
This will be a moot thread if we pick a DB .... which is VERY possible!

Not really considering we're discussing QB prospects through the top four rounds of the draft, not just Matty Ice at #8. :read ;)
jonboy79
04-14-2008, 04:25 PM
First off I disagree, I think that both Ainge and Booty are pretty much ready to go out of the shoot, albeit with a lower ceiling.
Considering the value and talent, I think I'd go:

1. Matt Ryan - he's the best, adn worthy of #8.
2. Henne- he's RIGHT THERE with Brohm IMO, and will be picked later.
3. Brohm- Henne and Brohm both seem like fine late first early second selections if Matty Ice is gone by 8.
4. Josh Johnson- SO much god given talent. SHould be able to be found on day 2.
5. Andre Woodson- I'm startign to think he'd be available as late as our fifth. He throws such a pretty ball that if you could completely change the way he threw it....
6. JDB- Jeff Garcia
7. Eric Ainge- Brad Johnson
8. Joe Flacco- Horrible value IMO, assuming he will be picked before the end of the 2nd round. High ceiling, but questionable makeup and did NOT dominate against LOW level competition.
9. Dennis Dixon- Boom bust at it's greatest. Best lottery ticket in the whole draft.
10. Matt Flynn. Tough, solid, bright, reliable. Not flashy in the least. Brian Griese maybe.
RavenScallywag
04-14-2008, 08:31 PM
This will be a moot thread if we pick a DB .... which is VERY possible!

More and more, I'm thinking we will go OT or CB at #8, then take a guy like Brohm, Henne, or Flacco in Round 2.
HoustonRaven
04-14-2008, 08:36 PM
More and more, I'm thinking we will go OT or CB at #8, then take a guy like Brohm, Henne, or Flacco in Round 2.

Me thinks you're right!
4G63
04-17-2008, 10:43 AM
More and more, I'm thinking we will go OT or CB at #8, then take a guy like Brohm, Henne, or Flacco in Round 2.

I think the McNair retirement announcement before the draft is a smokescreen for the reason you stated! I think they want other teams to think we're gunning for Ryan, when it will have the opposite effect!!!
jonboy79
04-17-2008, 01:22 PM
Do peopel honestly think we pass on Ryan at 8? I mean seriously? If he is there, he is a Raven. This has not changed with McNair retiring, it's a forgone conclusion, and I'm surprised if anyone actually disagrees.
Dade
04-18-2008, 10:25 AM
Do peopel honestly think we pass on Ryan at 8? I mean seriously? If he is there, he is a Raven. This has not changed with McNair retiring, it's a forgone conclusion, and I'm surprised if anyone actually disagrees.


:iagree:

Ryan is a Raven if he's there at #8.
4G63
04-18-2008, 12:22 PM
Do people honestly think we pass on Ryan at 8? I mean seriously? If he is there, he is a Raven. This has not changed with McNair retiring, it's a forgone conclusion, and I'm surprised if anyone actually disagrees.

No...we won't let him slip......but he won't be there at #8.
Mista T
04-18-2008, 12:34 PM
I would pass on Ryan if we could get a good trade down deal, or if there were a better quality athlete at another "need" position at #8. I foresee a cornerback crisis in 2009, possibly again this season. And, ever since losing Adalius, our pass rush has gone into the shitter. Or (more unlikely) what if one of the Longs fell to #8 ? That would be a no-brainer.

I was more impressed watching Flacco and Woodson than Ryan last season. And writers and some of y'all have been talking up Henne and Brohm. Admittedly, I don't follow a lot of college football outside of Terps and Navy -- just highlights and a sporadic national interest games -- but I don't believe that there's much fall-off from Brady to the next tier, and I don't think that any of them will be the next Carson Palmer.

And I don't think that McNair's retirement changes our draft plans one iota.

:greece
jonboy79
04-18-2008, 06:12 PM
I'm not certain Ryan makes it to 8 either.

That said, T, even I would take one of the Long's or Dorsey over him. Additionally, any trade involving MULTIPLE first round picks would be considered.

That said, I think either of those scenario's are even more far fetched then Ryan making it to 8 to begin with.