Billick:6th man needed

[52decleetzu]

On NST right now and he is talking about how the fans need to make this a place that noone wants to play over the next three weeks and throughout the playoffs.

Said the players,especially the DE's lick their chops when the noise is that loud and they know the tackles cant hear the snap count.

I for one will not be able to talk come Monday as I have tickets to both games,and hope everyone that is there with me will be just as loud

Coaches orders!!!

[Mista T]

Ok - I promise to go hoarse again, although I will also pace myself to have something left for the 4th quarter.


... but I don't get your thread title. 6th man:229031_confused2:

[PARavensJeff]

I just heard him calling the fans out again, typical Billick. He's worried the fans will be taking it easy since we're playing the Clowns & he wants the place loud. He doen't want a let down. WE need to show everyone that our house is not a place you want to be. No one better tell me to sit down the next 2 home games & the playoffs!!!

[PARavensJeff]

Yea, that should be the 12th man

[AZRAVEN]

That kind of irks me with Billick, this calling the fans out all the time. If the team did it's job as well as the fans for all four quarters we'd probably be undefeated. He lets them coast for half a game and then get going. Just concentrate on the team Brian the fans know what the hell they are supposed to do and they do it very well!

[hurting]

I just heard him calling the fans out again, typical Billick. He's worried the fans will be taking it easy since we're playing the Clowns & he wants the place loud. He doen't want a let down. WE need to show everyone that our house is not a place you want to be. No one better tell me to sit down the next 2 home games & the playoffs!!!


That kind of irks me with Billick, this calling the fans out all the time. If the team did it's job as well as the fans for all four quarters we'd probably be undefeated. He lets them coast for half a game and then get going. Just concentrate on the team Brian the fans know what the hell they are supposed to do and they do it very well!

First Billick did not call us out. Did you hear the entire conversation? During the first minute of the interview he praised our fans and said he thinks we are just as loud and passionate as the almighty Cheifs fans.

He also said the Stealers game this year was the loudest he has ever heard it. He then went on to say that he hopes it is that loud for the rest of the season. So, if you think him saying that he wants it that loud for the rest of the season is calling us out, then so be it. He was also asked if there are times when it is not as loud as he would like and he answered truthfully yes. He said something to the effect of "One fan in the stand says to himself ‘I am a little spent now let the guy next to me cheer now’" and the level goes down. He also said there are sometimes ebbs and flows to the volume, and that it is a crowd mentality, but that is expected.

I will tell you this. There was a huge difference between the Falcons game and the Ravens game this year. The stadium was very subdued during the Falcons game.

Billick said he is very pleased with the fans and he expects us to keep it up. He was just reiterating what we all already know. The fans when loud can have an impact on the game. He credit the fans with all of the sacks the team had on Big Ben and wants to see more of that in the final home games.

I think our fans have come a long way in the past 8 years in the stadium, but I think they need to be reminded every once in a while.

For example you should try to be quiet when the Ravens are on offense. That way the line can hear the calls and the snap count. There are times when the fans forget that. Also you don’t have to wait for 3rd down to yell. You should yell the entire time the opponent is on offense. (just my opinion and I know what they say about opinions)

[purplepoe]

I heard most of the interview and unless I missed something Billick didn't "call the fans out".

He stated how important it is that the fans make their presence felt at the game.

I see no reason why this bothers anyone. He certainly wasn't complaining or bitching about the fans in any way.

PP

[ravenmaniac]

That kind of irks me with Billick, this calling the fans out all the time. If the team did it's job as well as the fans for all four quarters we'd probably be undefeated. He lets them coast for half a game and then get going. Just concentrate on the team Brian the fans know what the hell they are supposed to do and they do it very well!

No they don't! I have zero problem with this. He doesn't want the Clowns to sneak up on us while the fans are already looking for playoff tickets. I've been to plenty of games where for whatever reason, the fans were as flat as the team. Why would this irk anyone?

[PARavensJeff]

Billick is calling the fans out without saying it. Read between the lines people. Haven't you ever had a coach or a boss deliver you a message without saying what he means? You're supposed to figure it out. That's what Billick did. Yes he praised the fans to start, but his message was telling us how to do what we do. Nothing else can be taken from it. & don't tell me I am bashing Billick, because I am not. I am a fan who has supported Billick thru good & bad.

[ravenmaniac]

Reminding the fans of how much the crowd noise had an impact at the Sqealer game and saying keep it up does not = calling them out. Billick is a little smarter than that.

[purplepoe]

Billick is calling the fans out without saying it. Read between the lines people. Haven't you ever had a coach or a boss deliver you a message without saying what he means? You're supposed to figure it out. That's what Billick did. Yes he praised the fans to start, but his message was telling us how to do what we do. Nothing else can be taken from it. & don't tell me I am bashing Billick, because I am not. I am a fan who has supported Billick thru good & bad.

There's a difference between reading between the lines and reading too much into a situation.

I heard what he said and there wasn't any underlying mean than what he said. If you believe he was calling the fans out, so be it.

And to be honest, I wish some of our fans would figure out how to cheer because there is a right and a wrong way. I cannot tell you how many times people scream and go nuts when we have the ball. It's infuriating and it's not hard to understand that you cheer and make noise when we're on defense, not offense.

PP

[SykesvilleRavensFan]

Let's face it - for some, Billick can do or say nothing right. If you feel that his comments are "calling out" the fans, than you probably are one of the fans that he's referring to.

[52decleetzu]

Ok - I promise to go hoarse again, although I will also pace myself to have something left for the 4th quarter.


... but I don't get your thread title. 6th man:229031_confused2:

My fault,I fixed it,I guess I had my mind on basketball for some reason when I made the title,I was reading some Iverson article before so I guess that is what it was.

Edit: looks like it isnt saving the change,if a mod can fix this go ahead.

[52decleetzu]

That kind of irks me with Billick, this calling the fans out all the time. If the team did it's job as well as the fans for all four quarters we'd probably be undefeated. He lets them coast for half a game and then get going. Just concentrate on the team Brian the fans know what the hell they are supposed to do and they do it very well!


He isnt "calling the fans out" he just wants us to make sure we are as loud as possible,what is so hard to comprehend about that?

[PARavensJeff]

I'm not 1 of the fans he's "calling out" & I have been a fan who has backed Billick thru good & bad. I'm not reading too much into it, I'm just calling it like I read it. Billick doesn't do anything without a purpose behind it. I will be there on Sunday, cheering for my team & going home hoarse as always. Hopefully the idiots who tell me to sit down won't be acting stupid this week.

[highwater]

Billick, perhaps wisely, might see this as a classic trap game and wants the fans to get into it from the start. I certainly don't have a problem with that message. The more noise the crowd makes, the more the team will get into the game, and the less likely the team will overlook a bad Browns team at home.

[PARavensJeff]

I agree, I'm not trying to be negative, although a few of my friends here seem to think so. If you read my 1st post, I said Billick is probably worried about the fans taking it easy since we're playing the Browns & he wants it loud. I have no problem with that, but I already know what my job is on Sunday. I think the fans are ready, I know my group is.

[52decleetzu]

First Billick did not call us out. Did you hear the entire conversation? During the first minute of the interview he praised our fans and said he thinks we are just as loud and passionate as the almighty Cheifs fans.

He also said the Stealers game this year was the loudest he has ever heard it. He then went on to say that he hopes it is that loud for the rest of the season. So, if you think him saying that he wants it that loud for the rest of the season is calling us out, then so be it. He was also asked if there are times when it is not as loud as he would like and he answered truthfully yes. He said something to the effect of "One fan in the stand says to himself ‘I am a little spent now let the guy next to me cheer now’" and the level goes down. He also said there are sometimes ebbs and flows to the volume, and that it is a crowd mentality, but that is expected.

I will tell you this. There was a huge difference between the Falcons game and the Ravens game this year. The stadium was very subdued during the Falcons game.

Billick said he is very pleased with the fans and he expects us to keep it up. He was just reiterating what we all already know. The fans when loud can have an impact on the game. He credit the fans with all of the sacks the team had on Big Ben and wants to see more of that in the final home games.

I think our fans have come a long way in the past 8 years in the stadium, but I think they need to be reminded every once in a while.

For example you should try to be quiet when the Ravens are on offense. That way the line can hear the calls and the snap count. There are times when the fans forget that. Also you don’t have to wait for 3rd down to yell. You should yell the entire time the opponent is on offense. (just my opinion and I know what they say about opinions)


Well said!!

[ChrisQ]

If I can find the right tickets to the Browns game, I'll certainly be screaming my head off.

[RavinDonnie]

Billick probably remembers last season when the Ravens played Cleveland at home week 3 and a lot of the "great" Ravens fans stayed home for some reason.

[WxKevin]

Wait a minute!!! I also heard Billick today but it was on 1300AM. He was in no way, shape or form calling out the fans. The story he told was that his daughter came up to him after the game and said that we were louder at the Steelers game then the Chief fans were against us. He said we were unbelievably loud the last couple of home games and wants us, the fans, to continue that for the rest of the year so people start saying that they don't want to go into Baltimore to play the Ravens because it is too damn loud.

You Billick bashers on this thread are just amazing! AZRAVEN is being critical to the coach of a 10-3 playoff bound team. Wow...hate to be your kids if they bring home a B or something!

[RAVENOUS52]

My first question would be, "How does AZRAVEN get irked by Billick's request when he doesn't attend home games?":grbac:

I personally will be there Sunday and I'm gonna scream until my lungs bleed if necessary...I love it when the coach of my beloved Ravens challenges me to be better than I was the last game...:thumbup:

Lord Billick isn't some cupcake creampuff like Marchiabroda...He acknowledges us as a part of the team and expects us to perform according to the parameters and schematics of the defense...:D

[GreenWave52]

He's a coach and wants to control his environment and get any possible advantage. That is why he reminds us to be loud, Just as he reminds his players of the fundamentals, he reminds the fans of their "fundamentals" as well. Because when M&T gets loud, it gets LOUD!

Putting a team at first and 15 because of a false start gives Rex and our D an unfair edge. Even though it is near impossible to sustain that level of noise the whole game I don't fault Billick for encouraging the fans to try.

[Sports Steve]

Billick is just getting all of us ready. He know how to talk and to get things started.

:jester: :jester:

[Drkraven]

I could not possibly be any louder! I keeping telling my father this is how all the money he spent on voice lessons is being used, I can"project" my voice and know how to breathe.

[AA-Raven]

most here must be PSL owners, it states in our PSL owners manuals on Page 4, section 3, paragraph A2, (and I do quote)

"A current PSL owner must bring their loudest vocal chords, and use those same vocal chords when the Ravens are on Defense for all the possesion of the visiting team", and if failure to accompolish this task, your PSL's can be revoked and given to someone who will follow these simple but needed rules........

given by permission of Brian Billick

[gusbus52]

I was going to post on this topic later in the week. After a big win last week there can be a tendency to not be as loud or intense, especially with the perception of opponets like Cleveland and Buffalo. Look at the Atlanta game, there was 0 enery from the crowd at the start of that game (regardless of playing like S for the first half).

SO, get in the Stadium early, its the Defenses turn to get introduced and make it loud. Its an AFC North Game, and its freaking Cleveland.

[Tspot-D-Ravenator]

I agree, I'm not trying to be negative, although a few of my friends here seem to think so. If you read my 1st post, I said Billick is probably worried about the fans taking it easy since we're playing the Browns & he wants it loud. I have no problem with that, but I already know what my job is on Sunday. I think the fans are ready, I know my group is.

This is negative :grbac:
That kind of irks me with Billick, this calling the fans out all the time. If the team did it's job as well as the fans for all four quarters we'd probably be undefeated. He lets them coast for half a game and then get going. Just concentrate on the team Brian the fans know what the hell they are supposed to do and they do it very well!

[PARavensJeff]

It's nice that if someone deviates from the party line he is stoned for his difference of opinion. It's nice to come to a spot & talk & share opinions with fellow Ravens fans who respect other fans opinions. I feel like I'm living in that 1 party state of Maryland again. All is fine as long as it what the Democrats say it shall be. You will find no bigger Raven or Billick fan than me.

[RavensNTerps]

it doesn't matter...this game will be 24-0 by halftime...this will be a blowout, boys...

[Ravenflash]

My first question would be, "How does AZRAVEN get irked by Billick's request when he doesn't attend home games?":grbac:

I personally will be there Sunday and I'm gonna scream until my lungs bleed if necessary...I love it when the coach of my beloved Ravens challenges me to be better than I was the last game...:thumbup:

Lord Billick isn't some cupcake creampuff like Marchiabroda...He acknowledges us as a part of the team and expects us to perform according to the parameters and schematics of the defense...:D


Thank You, Ravenous52. It's about time someone got it right. Billick has always tried to bring the relationship between the team and the fans closer. I wish the insecure ones here would find another team with a coach who doesn't care about the fans. At least they wouldn't have to be worried about being "called out". :grbac:

[ladyraven127]

My goodness . . . . for having such a record, we are all a little cranky, aren't we?

Everyone is entitled to an opinion even if you don't agree with it :nerd:

Carry on :D

[Rochardrik]

That kind of irks me with Billick, this calling the fans out all the time. If the team did it's job as well as the fans for all four quarters we'd probably be undefeated. He lets them coast for half a game and then get going. Just concentrate on the team Brian the fans know what the hell they are supposed to do and they do it very well!

I listened to the whole phone conversation, and there was NO feeling of calling out the fans. What he said is that, for being the most feared outdoor venue, the KC fans had absolutely nothing on the M&T fans, and to make sure we had no letdown just because it was a team we " should" beat!;)

[Greg]

The problem is some people are talking about what Billick said without actually having heard him say it.

Another issue is semantics. One poster said he was calling us out, meaning he was telling us to do our jobs. I missed this interview but I have heard him enough to know he is just reminding us to do our jobs just like he is reminding the players to block and tackle and protect the ball. He didn't mean Billick was insulting us, but that is how most people use "calling out" - it's an insult to be called out. One poster picked up on that and having not heard the interview assumed he was insulting the fans when he was just "coaching us up."

If you don't listen to Billick regularly he can grate on you, but if you listen to his call in show (ONLY HC IN THE NFL THAT ACTUALLY TAKES CALLS FROM FANS, AND HE DOES IT WEEKLY) he is actually a very nice guy who respects everybody and NEVER insults anybody.

[purplepoe]

The problem is some people are talking about what Billick said without actually having heard him say it.

Another issue is semantics. One poster said he was calling us out, meaning he was telling us to do our jobs. I missed this interview but I have heard him enough to know he is just reminding us to do our jobs just like he is reminding the players to block and tackle and protect the ball. He didn't mean Billick was insulting us, but that is how most people use "calling out" - it's an insult to be called out. One poster picked up on that and having not heard the interview assumed he was insulting the fans when he was just "coaching us up."

If you don't listen to Billick regularly he can grate on you, but if you listen to his call in show (ONLY HC IN THE NFL THAT ACTUALLY TAKES CALLS FROM FANS, AND HE DOES IT WEEKLY) he is actually a very nice guy who respects everybody and NEVER insults anybody.

Greg nailed it.

Sometimes things on message boards don't come across as they were intended.

And yes, "calling out" does indicate that Billick was chastising the fans to alot of people, me included.

Either way, I don't think any fan is gonna sit and be quiet this Sunday.

The weather looks great, the team is poised to really make a great run, and the beer will be cold.

PP

[RAVENOUS52]

I'm sneaking in a taser just to make sure the fans around me who don't post on this board MAKE SOME NOISE!! ZZZZZZZZZZZZAAPPOWW!!:D

[camdenyard]

I think it's time for a refresher on how to make the most noise. Believe it or not, you can do it and still keep a semblance of a voice after 3 hours.

First, since we by and large have concrete stands and not steel like Denver, stomping on the ground does little besides leave you sore.

Many people like to clap hands. If you do this, you can't wear gloves! But it's looking like Sunday will be warm enough that you won't need 'em. Anyway, to generate the highest quality percussion from your hands, two things must happen: You need to keep your fingers closed and you must slightly cup the lower hand. When striking the hand, only the top knuckle of your upper hand's middle finger should extend past the lower hand's palm. Of course, you must strike the hand sufficiently hard so that you get a low, piercing sound. No wimpy golf clap here, folks.

Or, you can use your voice. My preferred method is the low hum. Many people scream while the Ravens are on D, but a scream is a high-pitched shrill that has a short wavelength that doesn't carry that well. It also is unsustainable because it hurts the vocal chords. Instead, take a deep breath and bellow "UUUUUUUHHHHHH" as loud as you can at the lowest frequency you can. You may need to adjust your tone on the fly, but you'll soon find an optimal tone that allows a sustained yell that really doesn't hurt your vocal chords. The low frequency also travels further. At the same time, hold your hands against your face at a 45 degree angle, this serves to direct the sound in the preferred direction.

Now that you have the proper mechanics down, know when to use them! Start your sequence as soon as the opponent's offensive huddle forms, and don't stop until the QB hands off or drops back (except to reload, for those of you with limited air capacity). Depending on the game situation, I do this on all downs - not just 3rd.

Enjoy the game, and help give Coach Billick the homefield advantage he needs!

[Greg]

Those instructions should be handed out as people file in.

[Drkraven]

I had singing and vocal lessons in HS, and my dad just shakes his head and laughs when I used what I learned to bellow at football games. Beating on the seat in front of you with a water bottle or PLASTIC beer bottle make a lot of noise too. I think STFU Offense is at work should be on the scoreboard when Ravens O is on the field!

[ladyraven127]

"I think STFU Offense is at work should be on the scoreboard when Ravens O is on the field!"


:rolling:


Can you imagine . . . . people would have a cow :rolling:

[darb72]

I think it's time for a refresher on how to make the most noise. Believe it or not, you can do it and still keep a semblance of a voice after 3 hours.

First, since we by and large have concrete stands and not steel like Denver, stomping on the ground does little besides leave you sore.

Many people like to clap hands. If you do this, you can't wear gloves! But it's looking like Sunday will be warm enough that you won't need 'em. Anyway, to generate the highest quality percussion from your hands, two things must happen: You need to keep your fingers closed and you must slightly cup the lower hand. When striking the hand, only the top knuckle of your upper hand's middle finger should extend past the lower hand's palm. Of course, you must strike the hand sufficiently hard so that you get a low, piercing sound. No wimpy golf clap here, folks.

Or, you can use your voice. My preferred method is the low hum. Many people scream while the Ravens are on D, but a scream is a high-pitched shrill that has a short wavelength that doesn't carry that well. It also is unsustainable because it hurts the vocal chords. Instead, take a deep breath and bellow "UUUUUUUHHHHHH" as loud as you can at the lowest frequency you can. You may need to adjust your tone on the fly, but you'll soon find an optimal tone that allows a sustained yell that really doesn't hurt your vocal chords. The low frequency also travels further. At the same time, hold your hands against your face at a 45 degree angle, this serves to direct the sound in the preferred direction.

Now that you have the proper mechanics down, know when to use them! Start your sequence as soon as the opponent's offensive huddle forms, and don't stop until the QB hands off or drops back (except to reload, for those of you with limited air capacity). Depending on the game situation, I do this on all downs - not just 3rd.

Enjoy the game, and help give Coach Billick the homefield advantage he needs!

I've been on the internet for roughly 10 years now and that is the first time I've ever come across instructions on how to scream.:thumbup:

[Raineman]

Holy Batdroppings Camden! That is the most awesome fan directory I have ever seen or heard. And accurate! You can go the entire game by doing that and still have plenty left for the 4th Qtr. Also stressing the importance of making noise while the opponent is IN THE HUDDLE.:thumbup:

This should be posted and locked on every Ravens fan site available.

[UKRaven]

Please guys - I am 3,000 miles away. I get to go to a game once every two years. Please make it loud for my sake!!!

Its hard sitting in front of a computer screen every sunday when you know where I would rather be. Don't take for granted what we had to wait for so long to get.

[corvuscorax]

Excellent instructions camdenyard!

The yelling method, through trial and error, I arrived at on my own. It took me years to refine my technique, but it's virtually identical to yours! I posted a crude version of this on YBR 3 or 4 years ago, but your instructions are far superior. :worthy: I wish someone had taught me this a long time ago.
My preferred method is the low hum. Many people scream while the Ravens are on D, but a scream is a high-pitched shrill that has a short wavelength that doesn't carry that well. It also is unsustainable because it hurts the vocal chords. Instead, take a deep breath and bellow "UUUUUUUHHHHHH" as loud as you can at the lowest frequency you can. You may need to adjust your tone on the fly, but you'll soon find an optimal tone that allows a sustained yell that really doesn't hurt your vocal chords. The low frequency also travels further. At the same time, hold your hands against your face at a 45 degree angle, this serves to direct the sound in the preferred direction. I think of it as doing my best to imitate a sub-woofer speaker.

As for your clapping instructions, you added some advice I didn't know.
Anyway, to generate the highest quality percussion from your hands, two things must happen: You need to keep your fingers closed and you must slightly cup the lower hand. When striking the hand, only the top knuckle of your upper hand's middle finger should extend past the lower hand's palm. Of course, you must strike the hand sufficiently hard so that you get a low, piercing sound. Although I've been using cupped hands, I had never tried your precise technique. I just sat here in front of the computer and tried out what you described, and compared it to what I had been doing. Your technique is far louder than mine. You win, hands-down! (Pun intended, sorry.):crazy:
Thanks camdenyard, you got this noise thing down to a science!

Sitting here practicing clapping brought my dogs running wondering what in the world I was up to. :confused: Not long after, here comes the wife: "I'm pretty sure I'll regret this, but what the hell are you doing?":229031_confused2: When I told her, she didn't say a word, just shook her head and walked away! :insane: :187734:

[Greg]

When I told her, she didn't say a word, just shook her head and walked away!
That's how most every conversation I have with Amy ends. Isn't that normal?