Booing

[Tspot-D-Ravenator]

I was watching the game at a busy bar/restaurant on the TV last night and I can't believe I could hear people booing coming from the stands when Kyle Boller was in there in last night:thumbdown: This was only a preseason game and booing for any of our team mate is assinine and just shouldn't be! I am beginning to hate my fellow Baltimore Ravens fans:nerd: And I don't want to hear, "well we've been waiting for a QB for so long" or "he deserved it"...You all know who you are and you should be ashamed of yourselves:bag: This isn't Philthedelphia:insane: You all can rip me all you want, but there's NO excuse...NONE!

[RavinDonnie]

I agree. Where we differ is I blame Ozzie Newsome for extending Boller last year. If he could just admit he made a mistake and move on it would be a lot healthier situation for everyone.

It's not fair to Boller to put him out there.

[Mista T]

I laugh when I sometimes read about what a great fanbase we have. I'm embarassed to be a Ravens fan sometimes. Anyone who boos one of our own players is a complete asshole.

[jonboy79]

Yes it is embarrassing.

[Admin Steve]

I agree. I thought it was the jack and cokes playing games with my hearing. Booing? At a pre-season game? Sadly our fan base (at least for that game) has no clue.

But, if KB gets the nod for the Bengals game, I guarantee you will hear it again from the drunken masses.

[jonboy79]

Yes we will, it's truly sad. I guess our fanbase wants to lose em all at the hands of Troy instead of win a few at the hands of Kyle.

[RavinDonnie]

Yes we will, it's truly sad. I guess our fanbase wants to lose em all at the hands of Troy instead of win a few at the hands of Kyle.

Going down with the ship huh? What a pathetic post.

[psuasskicker]

I didn't hear anyone booing Boller coming out. I heard them booing his pathetic-ass interception.

- C -

[Mista T]

I didn't hear anyone booing Boller coming out. I heard them booing his pathetic-ass interception.

- C -

No -- the booing started with the 1st of his three incompletions and continued after each one. Fortunately, it was just a few. The assholes seemed to be mostly in the east end zone - same location where the assholes cheered when he was injured a few years back.

Great :261695: fans!

btw: the Interception was anything but "Pathetic-ass". :ref: It took an outstanding play by the defender to leap 10 feet or so for a one-hander. 9 of 10 times that pass gets through.

[highwater]

Going down with the ship huh? What a pathetic post.

As opposed to your posts, which are typically just pissed-off rants? You appear to be an angry and bitter guy, desperately scrambling for something to be angry and bitter about. And you're calling someone's else post pathetic?

[jonboy79]

No -- the booing started with the 1st of his three incompletions and continued after each one. Fortunately, it was just a few. The assholes seemed to be mostly in the east end zone - same location where the assholes cheered when he was injured a few years back.

Great :261695: fans!

btw: the Interception was anything but "Pathetic-ass". :ref: It took an outstanding play by the defender to leap 10 feet or so for a one-hander. 9 of 10 times that pass gets through.


It's funny how a one handed circus catch on a 25 yard pass that was MAYBE 6 inches off the mark is pathetic, but a three yard slant that is two yards off isn't so bad because Clayton was able to STOP, turn around and barely get a hand on it.

Troy for president woohoo, anyone but Boller.... I'm nto sure if most Troy Fans are actually Troy fans or Boller haters.... can someone actually WATCH this guy play and think he's better?

[UKRavenStockers]

It's the same old case of the backup QB being the most popular man in town. I'm certain it's just a case of anyone but Boller, there's no way that Smith has so greatly outplayed Boller that there should be clamours for Smith and boos for Boller.

[jonboy79]

oh no... as bad as Boller has been, Troy has CERTAINLY looked worse. Any objective fan would come to that conclusion. We had 5 yards passing at half with Troy in with the first unit. 5. The team only trusted him enough to call 8-9 passing plays, and he took off running on about half of them. But hey, the good news is, he broke his personal completion percentage record throwing 3-5.

[highwater]

oh no... as bad as Boller has been, Troy has CERTAINLY looked worse.

It's not so much that Smith has looked significantly worse (although you could make that argument), it's that in spite of two below-average performances on his part, some fans seem to have a man-crush on him. His on-field performance doesn't justify this support, which is beginning to seem odd.

But after this last game, I think most of us realize that as far as QB play goes, we're likely in for a long season.

[Galen Sevinne]

i thought the booing began with the 15 yard timing pattern out to the viking sideline. The pass looked good and I think it was Marcus Smith who ran a poor route. Boller basically put the ball where it would not be picked of and Smith ran a too flat a route.

The interception by Boller was a pretty good pass. He tried to loft in between a couple guys into a soft zone and just about threaded it. It was a circus catch interception that any other NFL QB could have thrown.

People booing in the stands showed absolutely no knowledge of what went down on those two plays. Maybe the view is better in the upperdeck? I always thought it was.

[flraven]

Hey T,
I'd like to think that the booing was coming mostly from people who aren't regular ticket holders, they bought the tix from a PSL owner.

Booing your team sucks.

And G7, yes, the view is pretty good from the upper deck as you can better see all the players on the field, routes they've run, etc.

[RavenTD]

The age old answer comes back from the ignorant ass. I pay for the tickets,I can do what I like.And that means booing my own team if need be.

It sends such a negative signal to the entire team.

I have sensed a downturn in Raven fandom on the forums and as you say it is happening in the stands.That is sad to see and hear.And leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

Yes having a rant about a player between fans in the stands or on a forum is one thing.Booing just shows a lower level of intelligence.

You have to take the rough with the smooth.

[Mista T]

I went down to the lower deck in the 4th Q for the post game Olympics stuff. It's quite a contrast -- I was somewhat lost down there, trying to follow the action unless I watched the big screens. No perspective until the high rows. I could not see plays open up, or the coverages.

[Purpleguy]

Our fans are classless and completely unknowledgeable about the game. Troy Smith is not an NFL QB. He has no accuracy and it is quite obvious that he can't see the field because of his height. Boller has been here for 6 years and Ozzie has yet to provide him with a legit #1 receiver or any semblance of an NFL o-line. Now we have traded up to take another raw QB in the first round and I see no signs that anything will change. You can't plug those holes when you keep paying linebackers like star QBs.

Our fans continue to worship the ground that Ozzie walks on and think everything relies on the coach and the QB.

[ravenwoman]

I agree with Purpleguy. I look for Kyle Boller to leave at the end of the season and do much better with another team. The fan base has been so unkind to this man both in the media and in the stadium. Yet, he is always willing to help the community and always signs autographs at training camp. He has not said anything negative about anybody and carries himself with dignity and class. As a fan, I am disappointed that none of the three QBs has stepped up this year. However, I will support whoever the coaches deem best for our team. We are in rebuilding mode and will stay in rebuilding mode for at least 2 years. Many of our players are aging on defense and our offensive line still needs improvement. How can anyone think of playoffs or Super Bowls with so many unanswered needs?

[SHORTTRACK]

Boller has been here for 6 years and Ozzie has yet to provide him with a legit #1 receiver or any semblance of an NFL o-line. Now we have traded up to take another raw QB in the first round and I see no signs that anything will change. You can't plug those holes when you keep paying linebackers like star QBs.Our fans continue to worship the ground that Ozzie walks on and think everything relies on the coach and the QB.

Purpleguy is right on and while I posted it before this is why Suggs should not get a pay day....the Ravens have so many LB's that fit into the system and are successful that they should not make an huge investement with Suggs...take that $$$ and put it toward OT, TE, Ol, WR, etc. The defense can plug players into the system and if any $$ should be put toward the D it should be with DB's. The Steelers have been doing this for years, Gregg Lloyd, Kevin Greene, Chad Brown, Joey Porter, etc. Let them go and next man up

[The Fanatic]

Purpleguy is right on and while I posted it before this is why Suggs should not get a pay day....the Ravens have so many LB's that fit into the system and are successful that they should not make an huge investement with Suggs...take that $$$ and put it toward OT, TE, Ol, WR, etc.

You're damn right Purpleguy is dead on.
He, and several others on here have been clamoring the same thing for far too long.
Ozzie places the dollar value on those that touch the football, and those that touch the QB.
He has uttered those very words countless times.
Until his view of where the dollars should be spent changes or is at least modified in some way, I think we'll continue to see the same thing no matter who they decide to put at QB.

As far as Suggs goes, you got Ray Lewis in the final year of his contract as well, and by all accounts asking for serious dollars.
Should be real interesting to see how "The Wizard of Oz" handles this upcoming off season and the situations it presents.

Forgot to add....

Booing your own team falls under the same idiuotic behavoir as cheering your own teams players being hurt.

[Drkraven]

:eyes:I was so pissed when I heard that crap, AND the loud cheering when we were on offense. I moved my seat up 2 rows to be on the rail and avoid the steps. These Bozo's behind us were screaming for Flacco to be put in the game--it was 3rd down of his first series:eyes:

There were a ton of little kids and non regulars.

[3RDRowRaven]

Yes, there was a few asswipes in my section booing as well. I turned around and I was like WTF??? :187734:

[HoustonRaven]

Everyone has a right to express him or herself as they see fit -- if you want to boo, fine. If you dont, fine as well.

Since when did all of you become the thought police?

[Mista T]

Everyone has a right to express him or herself as they see fit -- if you want to boo, fine. If you dont, fine as well.

Since when did all of you become the thought police?

:ref:

Of course -- everyone has the right to make an ass of themselves in public. And I have the right to crticize those who boo the home team as well. How's that being the "thought police"? :grbac:

[Bilbo]

Frankly, it is embarrassing to listen to people scream about Boller. Booing is certainly uncalled for. I found it equally puzzling when Boller was drilled and fans are screaming about how bad he is. Did he inpersonate an OT like Cousins? I think Boller actually has a better arm than Smith and is a better QB, but I think Smith will get, not win, the start because he can run. I think, based on our OL play, that's what we need. Boller will be the #2 QB thi syear until Flacco matures and will resurface next year somewhere without the baggage we have attached to him here. He's earned some of it, no doubt. The fans are idiots that need to support our team no matter what. We could all be in for a very long year....booing will only make it longer.

[HoustonRaven]

:ref:

Of course -- everyone has the right to make an ass of themselves in public. And I have the right to crticize those who boo the home team as well. How's that being the "thought police"? :grbac:

By making value judgements about the act of booing, thats how.

Look, I dont boo, per se. I choose to drop the F bomb, S bomb and a bunch of language that would make anyone blush. Plenty of people on these boards, I suspect, do it too. 99% of the fans in stands make some sort of gesture of disapproval. Does that makes us any different?

This same "debate" came up last season and its silly.

Some people boo. Some people dont. Does it really matter?

At least we're not doing some of the things that our friends across the pond are doing at soccer matches -- I watched the Man U game over the weekend and was appaled by some of the things I saw in the stands (no offense to our purple brothers in the UK).

[UKRavenStockers]

By making value judgements about the act of booing, thats how.

Look, I dont boo, per se. I choose to drop the F bomb, S bomb and a bunch of language that would make anyone blush. Plenty of people on these boards, I suspect, do it too. 99% of the fans in stands make some sort of gesture of disapproval. Does that makes us any different?

This same "debate" came up last season and its silly.

Some people boo. Some people dont. Does it really matter?

At least we're not doing some of the things that our friends across the pond are doing at soccer matches -- I watched the Man U game over the weekend and was appaled by some of the things I saw in the stands (no offense to our purple brothers in the UK).

What did you see in the stands? It was a pretty dull game so I had it on in the background whilst I was sitting and relaxing after (american) football training. Can't say as I noticed anything untoward but I wasn't paying it much attention. The days of hooliganism in English football are (thankfully) in the past by and large, there's been a wide spread and successful crack down on the very worst of the "fans" (they're nothing of the sort) and bad behaviour in the stands. The behaviour of our fans isn't a patch on the Italians these days, the "Ultras" of clubs like Roma are utterly despicable and it's getting to the point where it isn't safe to go to games at certain stadia in Italy.

[HoustonRaven]

What did you see in the stands? It was a pretty dull game so I had it on in the background whilst I was sitting and relaxing after (american) football training. Can't say as I noticed anything untoward but I wasn't paying it much attention. The days of hooliganism in English football are (thankfully) in the past by and large, there's been a wide spread and successful crack down on the very worst of the "fans" (they're nothing of the sort) and bad behaviour in the stands. The behaviour of our fans isn't a patch on the Italians these days, the "Ultras" of clubs like Roma are utterly despicable and it's getting to the point where it isn't safe to go to games at certain stadia in Italy.

Maybe that's what I caught then. Does Roma wear a red similar to Man U?

I admit I wasnt really watching it but we looked up at one point and saw a referee get pelted with bottles and other stuff.

[Tspot-D-Ravenator]

Everyone has a right to express him or herself as they see fit -- if you want to boo, fine. If you dont, fine as well.

Since when did all of you become the thought police?

It's wrong and it is uncalled for:thumbdown:

[HoustonRaven]

:34853_lolpoint:
You are the kind of fan that I'm referring to:thumbdown:

And you're the kind of condescending person to which I was referring. Note the proper grammar.

[UKRavenStockers]

Maybe that's what I caught then. Does Roma wear a red similar to Man U?

I admit I wasnt really watching it but we looked up at one point and saw a referee get pelted with bottles and other stuff.

That certainly wasn't Man U. I'd be hearing nothing but that on the news today if that was the case. Roma do play in red as well, but I don't think the Italian season has started yet, not sure what you might've been watching. :confused:

[FellsPointRaven]

I was appalled on Saturday, but then I am fairly regularly these days at Ravens games. I noticed most of the women booing were drunken, fat, ugly sluts who wouldn't know Joe Flacco from Joe Theisman, even though they were repeatedly shouting his name. Oh, and booing your own player is a) classless and b) completely counter-productive to supporting 'your team'. Pre-season is undoubtedly worse for the moron contingent. And I'm not thinking for them - just expressing what I think of them. Pricks, in a word.

On a positive side, and on the subject of NUFC v The Scum (aka Man U) - I'm a Newcastle fan so woo-fucking-hoo! :happyanim

[Rex Thunder]

I was watching the game at a busy bar/restaurant on the TV last night and I can't believe I could hear people booing coming from the stands when Kyle Boller was in there in last night:thumbdown: This was only a preseason game and booing for any of our team mate is assinine and just shouldn't be! I am beginning to hate my fellow Baltimore Ravens fans:nerd: And I don't want to hear, "well we've been waiting for a QB for so long" or "he deserved it"...You all know who you are and you should be ashamed of yourselves:bag: This isn't Philthedelphia:insane: You all can rip me all you want, but there's NO excuse...NONE!

I've read most of the replies to this and good to see a few in agreement. Overall though, even those who agree witht his sentiment really don't all have it right IMO. Boller is a gamer and doesn't get HALF of the credit he deserves! It's an absolute travesty. He's had some downright AWFUL games as a Raven- at Denver a few years agho ranks right up there. (He came back after that with 2 of his BEST games to end the season though). Through it all he has endured booing when injured (only a fan with a complete lack of class would boo an injury), pressure from just about everywhere to find a replacement, and more booing for every little misstep.

He almost definitely could have signed somewhere else after year and started fresh this season, BUT- sensing McNair's reigh coming to an end- I feel as though he still had the moxy to pony up and prove to all the doubters and haters that he has what it takes to win in baltimore. I'm sure many will not agree... but rememeber this- as a ROOKIE, thrown into the lions den, he had a winning record. Yeah a great defense helped- but he missed most of camp and had a mountain of pressure.

In only his second year- he lead the team to a 9-7 record and put of extremely respectable stats- WITH NOONE TO HELP ON OFFENSE. Todd Heap missed most of the season. Jamal was nicked up all year long. We ghad not a single decent wide receiver. He was in his 2nd year and still shouldered the pressure better than most could have. Were it not for the DEFENSE that year (meltdown that allowed Cincinnati to score 24 points in the 4th quarter!)- he would have guided the team to the playoffs.

Somehow he takes the blame for everything though. The next year- with some awful tough luck games- the first of which he gets hurt in and his injury cheered (again, total lack of class and decency). Another injury plagued season with mediocre results.
Then, Steve McNair steps in and suddenly Boller takes a back seat. Now the pressure isn't on him. Now he can sit back and maybe learn a thing or two. He didn't whine and complain like most players in this league would. he didn't ask to be traded- LIKE JUST ABOUT EVERY PLAYER WHO HAS HIS STARTING JOB TAKEN AWAY DOES!- no, whatd oes he do- he goes to work and wants to learn from Mcnair andcontinue to get better so that when the chance arrives again for him to lead the Ravens- he will be ready! This is a tough son of gun and worthy of another chance to this team.

I mean seriously- it's so easy to overlook the games he had stolen last year that could have changed the entire season's direction. The opener against Cincinnati on Monday night he replaced McNair and had a 4th down throw that I am still amazed about! He had a should of been game winning TD pass to todd heap that was taken back due to a blatant miscall (offensive foul on heap). He has another great game against new England wiped away due to what can only be described as a joke of a set of plays. (false start saves a perfect seaosn- get real).

Boller re-signed here for a year because he wants to be here. What other player in their right mind would WANT to be somewhere that has booed him and barely given him a chance during the toughest of times?

In my mind, only a guy who has what it takes to succeed at this level and for this team makes that type of decision. Can't we all just let the team competition play out and support whoever it is that wins the job? Or all we all more knowledgable than the coaches who make those decisions.

Bottom line- can we just SUPPORT whoever is behind center on Opening Day without all this ridiculous negativity! Boller should be given a chance. Right now, we have th ebest set of wide receivers we've had since he's been here- with a healthy McGahee we have a solid 1-2 punch, and hopefully a healthy Todd Heap. Let's see Boller player- WITH FAN SUPPORT FOR ONCE- with this team- and see what happens! Last year wasn't so bad!

I've got more to say but I'm just rambling now as I could argue this all day. This dude has such an unfair extremely BAD RAP.

[HoustonRaven]

On a positive side, and on the subject of NUFC v The Scum (aka Man U) - I'm a Newcastle fan so woo-fucking-hoo! :happyanim

You didnt happen to be at Slainte, did you?

[UKRavenStockers]

I was appalled on Saturday, but then I am fairly regularly these days at Ravens games. I noticed most of the women booing were drunken, fat, ugly sluts who wouldn't know Joe Flacco from Joe Theisman, even though they were repeatedly shouting his name. Oh, and booing your own player is a) classless and b) completely counter-productive to supporting 'your team'. Pre-season is undoubtedly worse for the moron contingent. And I'm not thinking for them - just expressing what I think of them. Pricks, in a word.

On a positive side, and on the subject of NUFC v The Scum (aka Man U) - I'm a Newcastle fan so woo-fucking-hoo! :happyanim

Wondered when you'd pipe up on that. :D That Gutierrez chap looked quite useful, a good signing for the Magpies? Perish the thought! :eek:

[Greg]

Remember when Boller came out last year after McNair was done? Cheers.

If Smith gets the job the yahoos in the stands will be calling for Boller and/or Flacco in about 20 minutes.

[4G63]

Yes we will, it's truly sad. I guess our fanbase wants to lose em all at the hands of Troy instead of win a few at the hands of Kyle.

http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r3/dkr624/ot/pessimism.jpg


I don't know how can you say this? I've seen Boller lose plenty of games.....Troy is 1 for 1 starting regular season games.

[Mista T]

.....Troy is 1 for 1 starting regular season games.

Huh? :229031_confused2:

I know it was pouring down rain in Seattle last December, but I swear that I recall this real little guy at QB wearing a purple uniform #10 who put up something like minus 5 yards passing in the first half, on the way to a humiliating defeat, caused mostly by no passing attack.:grbac:

:T2:

[4G63]

oh no... as bad as Boller has been, Troy has CERTAINLY looked worse. Any objective fan would come to that conclusion. We had 5 yards passing at half with Troy in with the first unit. 5. The team only trusted him enough to call 8-9 passing plays, and he took off running on about half of them. But hey, the good news is, he broke his personal completion percentage record throwing 3-5.

You do remember its a new offensive system, right? And its basically his first year with the team, too. Oh, thats right, Boller has shown flashes of excellence in the preseason against backups....

How about we give Smith a few (3-4?)regular season games before we make educated decisions on his play, huh? Maybe he could win a game on the road?!?http://forums.evolutionm.net/images/smilies/dunno.gif

[4G63]

Huh? :229031_confused2:

I know it was pouring down rain in Seattle last December, but I swear that I recall this real little guy at QB wearing a purple uniform #10 who put up something like minus 5 yards passing in the first half, on the way to a humiliating defeat, caused mostly by no passing attack.:grbac:

:T2:

You're right, my bad.....I forgot Boller got hurt in Miami, not Seattle! Seattle is one of the hardest places to play in the NFL, I wasn't expecting much anyway.

[FellsPointRaven]

You didnt happen to be at Slainte, did you?

Yes I was. I was sitting in the corner by the window with my wife, a couple of friends and the other Newcastle fans. The American Newcastle fans are very boisterous and could up their game, smack-wise, but it was against Man U so I'm cool with it.

[jonboy79]

You do remember its a new offensive system, right? And its basically his first year with the team, too. Oh, thats right, Boller has shown flashes of excellence in the preseason against backups....

How about we give Smith a few (3-4?)regular season games before we make educated decisions on his play, huh? Maybe he could win a game on the road?!?http://forums.evolutionm.net/images/smilies/dunno.gif

uh Boller's flashes were against NE's starters...

So we have to throw away a few regular season games for you to see what 90% of the football world saw 2 years ago, and I get reminded of everytime the guy takes the field? He won't be able to pass the ball a tthis level. He is too short/inaccurate and he doesn't read a defense well at al.

[HoustonRaven]

Yes I was. I was sitting in the corner by the window with my wife, a couple of friends and the other Newcastle fans. The American Newcastle fans are very boisterous and could up their game, smack-wise, but it was against Man U so I'm cool with it.

I was there, too. Upstairs though. Myself and some good friends (Brian and Missy Carmen, if you know them) we're boozing it up early.

[4G63]

uh Boller's flashes were against NE's starters...

So we have to throw away a few regular season games for you to see what 90% of the football world saw 2 years ago, and I get reminded of everytime the guy takes the field? He won't be able to pass the ball a tthis level. He is too short/inaccurate and he doesn't read a defense well at al.

But that's not it. If Boller is named the starter, we're 8-8 at best. He simply cannot win on the road and you tell me who we'll beat on the road this year?

His ability to read a defense was actually pretty good the other night. His audible at the line sprung Rice for his big run.

[jonboy79]

Ok keep hanging your hopes on a guy that is at his BEST when he audibles ot a running play...

I agree with Boller we are abotu 8-8 or so at best, and with Troy, we are 4-12 or so at best. I'd rather see twice as many wins and over 1500 yards passing for the season.

[Mista T]

But that's not it. If Boller is named the starter, we're 8-8 at best.



Geez, and you think that we would have a better record under Smith, a less talented QB? :229031_confused2: My biggest fear is Smith starts and we nosedive to 4-12 or so.

[CROWBYTES]

I watched that game in horror. What is going on with this team. I realize that this is a pre season game. I could not believe the offensive line. As to Boller being boo'ed that is disgusting behavior. Some of us are real fans, some are beer drinking slobs come to see what they can do to wreck it for everyone else including the players on the field.



Sign me,

CROWBYTES

[bmorebirds_24]

so if we all can see that with the 2 fighting for the starting spot at QB that we have nothing....then why not start flacco?whats it hurt?how can he learn behind them 2 in front of him.they havent learned to teach him yet.....i say we let him learn on the fly.


and PLEASE i dont wanna hear the b/s well look what happened to boller.either you have it or you dont in the NFL.there are plenty of quaterbacks who have success in this league and started their rookie year.

[bmorebirds_24]

I watched that game in horror. What is going on with this team. I realize that this is a pre season game. I could not believe the offensive line. As to Boller being boo'ed that is disgusting behavior. Some of us are real fans, some are beer drinking slobs come to see what they can do to wreck it for everyone else including the players on the field.



Sign me,

CROWBYTES

:iagree:


i cant stand when i sit by 3 or 4 people with a purple shirt and still wondering where the goose is.all these people do is show up to drink and have another day to drink.dont get me wrong i drink and carry on but i hate someone that has no clue what football or the ravens are about and they talk so stupid it can ruin your time.................................sorry to rant but that pisses me off to no end

[NCentralPaRaven]

I was watching the game at a busy bar/restaurant on the TV last night and I can't believe I could hear people booing coming from the stands when Kyle Boller was in there in last night:thumbdown: This was only a preseason game and booing for any of our team mate is assinine and just shouldn't be! I am beginning to hate my fellow Baltimore Ravens fans:nerd: And I don't want to hear, "well we've been waiting for a QB for so long" or "he deserved it"...You all know who you are and you should be ashamed of yourselves:bag: This isn't Philthedelphia:insane: You all can rip me all you want, but there's NO excuse...NONE!

+1 many times over!

[RvnFanInIndy]

A quick trip down memory lane:

When I was a kid, I used to go to the semi-pro football games in Frederick. The league was made up of nothing but every day guys who loved playing football, no more, nothing else. When you're 10 years old though, man I thought I was watching the NFL. One Saturday night, the Falcons QB starts stinking up the joint, something like 3 or 4 INTS by the half. As they're coming off the field, walking right by the bleachers, I start to boo. What do I know, I'm a kid. My dad hauls off and smacks me in the back of the head so far, my ears are still ringing. He grabs me by the shirt and hauls me down the bleachers, and lays into me. Tells me "You never, I mean NEVER boo your team. You always cheer the good, and try and forget the bad. All they are doing is trying their best. They have good days and bad, just like you. If you don't like their play, or a certain player, don't go to the game. If I hear you boo them one more time, you will never come back to a game with me again."

A**hole made me write a letter to the team apologizing too. Needless to say, I will never forget that lesson. But let's face it, the bad behavior isn't limited to Ravens games. I'm almost ashamed to say I root for the Terps. Even out here in the land of corn, people know how bad the fans are at the Comcast Center

[dcdib]

I agree, booing Boller is ridiculous, especially when Smith has a 47% completion rate. However, I was at the game and I really don't remember hearing a lot of booing, mostly just a few idiots.

[dcdib]

one other note, when you stop to consider that in 9 yrs under Billick we had 1 season where the QB play was good and that was McNair's first season. Other than that one season every QB in the Billick system failed including Boller. I think with what our investment has been in him in time and money he deserves a clean slate with a new system and coaches and we should be putting aside the Boller's Billick years until he's given a fair chance with Cam.

[Galen Sevinne]

If a guy jogs down the first base line like Manny does feel free to boo but Kyle has done nothing but try as hard as he can...to boo that I believe is missing the point.

[Sports Steve]

They are going to continue to boo. We bring this subject up every year.

:jester: :jester:

[Tspot-D-Ravenator]

I've read most of the replies to this and good to see a few in agreement. Overall though, even those who agree witht his sentiment really don't all have it right IMO. Boller is a gamer and doesn't get HALF of the credit he deserves! It's an absolute travesty. He's had some downright AWFUL games as a Raven- at Denver a few years agho ranks right up there. (He came back after that with 2 of his BEST games to end the season though). Through it all he has endured booing when injured (only a fan with a complete lack of class would boo an injury), pressure from just about everywhere to find a replacement, and more booing for every little misstep.

He almost definitely could have signed somewhere else after year and started fresh this season, BUT- sensing McNair's reigh coming to an end- I feel as though he still had the moxy to pony up and prove to all the doubters and haters that he has what it takes to win in baltimore. I'm sure many will not agree... but rememeber this- as a ROOKIE, thrown into the lions den, he had a winning record. Yeah a great defense helped- but he missed most of camp and had a mountain of pressure.

In only his second year- he lead the team to a 9-7 record and put of extremely respectable stats- WITH NOONE TO HELP ON OFFENSE. Todd Heap missed most of the season. Jamal was nicked up all year long. We ghad not a single decent wide receiver. He was in his 2nd year and still shouldered the pressure better than most could have. Were it not for the DEFENSE that year (meltdown that allowed Cincinnati to score 24 points in the 4th quarter!)- he would have guided the team to the playoffs.

Somehow he takes the blame for everything though. The next year- with some awful tough luck games- the first of which he gets hurt in and his injury cheered (again, total lack of class and decency). Another injury plagued season with mediocre results.
Then, Steve McNair steps in and suddenly Boller takes a back seat. Now the pressure isn't on him. Now he can sit back and maybe learn a thing or two. He didn't whine and complain like most players in this league would. he didn't ask to be traded- LIKE JUST ABOUT EVERY PLAYER WHO HAS HIS STARTING JOB TAKEN AWAY DOES!- no, whatd oes he do- he goes to work and wants to learn from Mcnair andcontinue to get better so that when the chance arrives again for him to lead the Ravens- he will be ready! This is a tough son of gun and worthy of another chance to this team.

I mean seriously- it's so easy to overlook the games he had stolen last year that could have changed the entire season's direction. The opener against Cincinnati on Monday night he replaced McNair and had a 4th down throw that I am still amazed about! He had a should of been game winning TD pass to todd heap that was taken back due to a blatant miscall (offensive foul on heap). He has another great game against new England wiped away due to what can only be described as a joke of a set of plays. (false start saves a perfect seaosn- get real).

Boller re-signed here for a year because he wants to be here. What other player in their right mind would WANT to be somewhere that has booed him and barely given him a chance during the toughest of times?

In my mind, only a guy who has what it takes to succeed at this level and for this team makes that type of decision. Can't we all just let the team competition play out and support whoever it is that wins the job? Or all we all more knowledgable than the coaches who make those decisions.

Bottom line- can we just SUPPORT whoever is behind center on Opening Day without all this ridiculous negativity! Boller should be given a chance. Right now, we have th ebest set of wide receivers we've had since he's been here- with a healthy McGahee we have a solid 1-2 punch, and hopefully a healthy Todd Heap. Let's see Boller player- WITH FAN SUPPORT FOR ONCE- with this team- and see what happens! Last year wasn't so bad!

I've got more to say but I'm just rambling now as I could argue this all day. This dude has such an unfair extremely BAD RAP.

:word :thumbup: RACK IT:worthy:

[Tspot-D-Ravenator]

one other note, when you stop to consider that in 9 yrs under Billick we had 1 season where the QB play was good and that was McNair's first season. Other than that one season every QB in the Billick system failed including Boller. I think with what our investment has been in him in time and money he deserves a clean slate with a new system and coaches and we should be putting aside the Boller's Billick years until he's given a fair chance with Cam.


Man, I couldn't agree with you more:happyanim

If Boller does not do well thiss year under a more pass generous offensive scheme, then I say get rid of him and move on.....It takes a QB time to get into a rhythm...He needs to throw more and run less to get into that rhythm...And really, under Brian Billick, Boller was stiffled because he didn't want to allow him to make mistakes, because if Boller did, it would've been his head:nerd:

[dcdib]

Not to mention the fact that our O-line has always been so porous that it wouldn't matter who the QB was. That's one of the reasons so many of them failed under Billick (besided the play calling /lack of creativity). Until the last 3-4 games last year Brady had all day to throw. He had enough time to deal a deck of cards before throwing. We all see what happened even with the great Tom Brady when the PHL, BAL, then NY started bringing the heat. My feeling is, you give Boller adequate protection, he could be one hell of QB.