PDA

View Full Version : Ravens Game Rescheduled



TL24x7
09-11-2008, 05:11 PM
BALTIMORE AT HOUSTON GAME RESCHEDULED

FOR MONDAY NIGHT DUE TO APPROACHING HURRICANE IKE


Due to the importance of allowing the Houston area to focus on its recovery from the expected arrival of Hurricane Ike on Friday, the Houston Texans' home game Sunday against the Baltimore Ravens has been re-scheduled for Monday night at Reliant Stadium at 7:30 Houston time (8:30 ET). The game originally was scheduled to be played on Sunday, September 14 at noon Houston Time (1:00 ET).

The Texans-Ravens Monday night game will be televised on local CBS stations in the primary and secondary markets of the Texans (Houston, Beaumont-Port Arthur, and Bryan, Texas) and the Ravens (Baltimore; Washington, DC; Salisbury, MD; and Harrisburg, PA).

HoustonRaven
09-11-2008, 05:12 PM
See, do I know my town or what!?!?! :)

highwater
09-11-2008, 05:13 PM
Per ESPN -- 7:30 start.

RAVENOUS52
09-11-2008, 05:16 PM
Guess I'll be headed to the local sports bar to watch it on Direct Ticket Monday evening... I'm okay with that!

Beerracuda
09-11-2008, 05:19 PM
So, what happens if there's damage to Reliant Stadium, or if there's still no power to it?

The NFL is taking a hell of a chance here. This could lead to a major scheduling problem.

HoustonRaven
09-11-2008, 05:28 PM
I am told that Reliant has an under ground power system that feeds directly to some power plant -- most stadiums are this way because the normal power lines cannot handle the load a stadium demands.

Mr.Boh
09-11-2008, 05:28 PM
So, what happens if there's damage to Reliant Stadium, or if there's still no power to it?

The NFL is taking a hell of a chance here. This could lead to a major scheduling problem.

I agree. Wrong choice here. Most of all because I have to work Monday Night.

lloyd christmas
09-11-2008, 05:35 PM
I will be in downtown Philly for work. Does anyone know if the game will be shown locally there on CBS? If not, are we positive DirectTV will carry it?

RAVENOUS52
09-11-2008, 05:46 PM
I'm not positive about the DirecTV option, but they had damn well better show it either there or on the NFL Network or I'll be pissed!

TTRaven
09-11-2008, 05:49 PM
So, what happens if there's damage to Reliant Stadium, or if there's still no power to it?

The NFL is taking a hell of a chance here. This could lead to a major scheduling problem.

They'll probably move it to another stadium. I'm sure the NFL already has a plan in place if the game is unplayable in Reliant stadium.

purplepoe
09-11-2008, 05:49 PM
Apparently they have another plan if they can't go on Monday.

I'm very curious to know what that might be.

PP

purplepoe
09-11-2008, 05:51 PM
They'll probably move it to another stadium. I'm sure the NFL already has a plan in place if the game is unplayable in Reliant stadium.

But when?

Would they make that determination on Sunday morning before the Ravens try to fly into Houston on Sunday night?

They better hope this game can be played on Monday night at Reliant Stadium.

PP

B-more Ravor
09-11-2008, 06:02 PM
But when?

Would they make that determination on Sunday morning before the Ravens try to fly into Houston on Sunday night?

They better hope this game can be played on Monday night at Reliant Stadium.

PP

They would either have to play it Tuesday or later in the season by moving some Bye weeks around between Baltimore, Houston and Cinncy.

I really don't think they can move it and still play on Monday if the decision comes on Sat or Sun. I would think the logistics would be too difficult.

3RDRowRaven
09-11-2008, 06:15 PM
I heard on the radio on the way home from work that both teams could be playing in Atlanta, if Reliant Stadium is damage or no power because of the hurricane. The Falcons are playing on the road this weekend. :nerd:

ed from Bel Air
09-11-2008, 06:16 PM
I think the game time is 8:30----the 7:30 is for the Central time zone

mjones73
09-11-2008, 06:43 PM
The storm is hitting early Saturday morning so they should know later Saturday how bad the damage is if any. They are slated to fly in Sunday.

Rayvens52
09-11-2008, 07:45 PM
the game is on at 8:30 and is only being shown in Baltimore and Houston due to the current Monday night game and rights to show the game

RavensInBrazil
09-11-2008, 08:14 PM
Meh, I still won't get to see it. The only Ravens game I'll be able to watch this season (pending re-arranged SNF games or playoffs) is when we play at Pittsburgh on Monday night...and frankly, that's going to be an extremely difficult game to win :/

TL24x7
09-11-2008, 09:13 PM
Per ESPN -- 7:30 start.

As noted earlier, this is a 8:30 eastern start. These announcements that I post come directly from the Ravens.

highwater
09-11-2008, 09:34 PM
As noted earlier, this is a 8:30 eastern start. These announcements that I post come directly from the Ravens.

I realize that now -- I just saw ESPN report it as a 7:30 start, but they were obviously referring to local time in Houston, not ET.

StingerNLG
09-11-2008, 09:53 PM
This actually works for me. I couldn't watch the game sunday because of a band gig. Now I can actually see it!

WxKevin
09-12-2008, 07:19 AM
They should have just played the game here! I am leaving for Denver Monday morning. I better be able to find a place out there to watch it or the NFL is in trouble with me.

PARavensJeff
09-12-2008, 08:00 AM
I still think they are taking a chance by playing in Houston on Monday night. Even if they have their own power set up, there could be damage to the stadium & will there be any1 in town to see it. Also, who knows if they'll be able to open either of their airports back up Sunday. Watching the Houston ABC affiliate & the latest reports on the hurricane, they don't need to play this game in Houston. There will be more important things to be doing in that area other than an NFL game. That's why I suggested New Orleans, about 350 miles to the east. They are playing the deadskins down the road Sunday, so the Super Dome is open. Makes more sense then Atlanta. The safest option for everyone & they can play either Sunday or Monday.

HoustonRaven
09-12-2008, 08:20 AM
Again, that decision has nothing to do with the storm itself. The storm effected the travel of the team.

The time on which the game will be played will come down to power and flooding. Cat 2 is almost routine here and Houston sits 75 miles inland. Even it gets up to a Cat 3, the winds inland wont be high enough to create any significant damage to the stadium.

Friends and family in B'more keep calling and saying the news reports there are saying "Houston is being evacuated", making it sound like 4 Million folks are on their way out. This is partially true but as extreme as it sounds.

The south east side of Houston, the low-laying parts near Galveston Bay is being evacuated but that's it. Houston is a HUGE city in both population and land mass. The areas being evacuated wont effect the area near the stadium or the surrounding areas.

psuasskicker
09-12-2008, 08:22 AM
They aren't gonna play this game in Houston if things are bad. They'd rather play it there if possible. But clearly this is a move to allow them to assess the viability of keeping the game in Houston. They'll be able to know by Sunday whether or not they can park the game there Monday night, or if they'll need to move it.

- C -

obannon35
09-12-2008, 08:29 AM
http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/09/12/ravens-texans-wont-be-on-sunday-ticket/#comment-95351


For those of you counting on DirectTV this may upset you a bit. I think this is garbage, but thank goodness I live in a local area.

Purpleguy
09-12-2008, 08:40 AM
This absolutely sucks. I'll be out of town on Monday and won't be able to see the game. If things are going to be bad Sunday, then I don't see how they are going to be that much better on Monday. I would think flooding would be the main concern and that isn't going to magically fix itself in a day. They should have just played the game elsewhere or rescheduled it for the buy week.

It makes the most sense to play it here. You probably won't have a packed house in Atlanta or New Orleans. Up here you would have a full stadium and they could give the gate receipts to the Texans.

HoustonRaven
09-12-2008, 08:44 AM
People, things wont be bad on Sunday.

That's what nobody is grasping. The storm will be sitting over Oklahoma by then. At worst, some folks in Houston wont have power.

The stadium wont be flooded. They are worried about other areas and peoples safety getting to and from the stadium. But the stadium itself is going to be fine. The one day move was prudent. It allowed a days worth of clean up and prep should the storm had intensified. It's didnt and most models show that it wont.

PARavensJeff
09-12-2008, 08:49 AM
I just believe Houston will have more important things to worry about then a football game Monday. I hope I'm wrong but this is looking more omnious with eveyr update. HoustonRaven, stay safe & I hpoe you're right, but it's not looking that way. I know Houston is 75 miles inland, but I was watching your ABC affiliate online since they are doing that now, & they were saying winds over 100 MPH. That just can't be good for the infrastructure, including the stadium. +, even if the game is 2 days after the storm, cleanup & power can't be done that quickly after major damage. Not to metion the people that are still there. Are they going to go to a game after their house has been damaged or destroyed? How about all the support people, are they just going to show up @ the stadium? The police & fire are going to be worried about the game when they'll have more pressing needs?

As far as Sunday ticket, that's just wrong especially since there is precedence for it from 11 years ago. Florio's article is good except for the part about Ravens fans outside of Baltimore. I think there are more than he & the national media believe.

obannon35
09-12-2008, 08:57 AM
I just believe Houston will have more important things to worry about then a football game Monday. I hope I'm wrong but this is looking more omnious with eveyr update. HoustonRaven, stay safe & I hpoe you're right, but it's not looking that way. I know Houston is 75 miles inland, but I was watching your ABC affiliate online since they are doing that now, & they were saying winds over 100 MPH. That just can't be good for the infrastructure, including the stadium. +, even if the game is 2 days after the storm, cleanup & power can't be done that quickly after major damage. Not to metion the people that are still there. Are they going to go to a game after their house has been damaged or destroyed? How about all the support people, are they just going to show up @ the stadium? The police & fire are going to be worried about the game when they'll have more pressing needs?

As far as Sunday ticket, that's just wrong especially since there is precedence for it from 11 years ago. Florio's article is good except for the part about Ravens fans outside of Baltimore. I think there are more than he & the national media believe.

Yeah I commented on that little snide comment that Florio threw in there, but he has been saying all preseason that it wouldn't surprise him if the Ravens won the division...so I cut him a little slack lol.

PARavensJeff
09-12-2008, 09:15 AM
Pro Football Talk says now after confirming w/ the NFL that the reason the game won't be on Sunday Ticket is because of ESPN's exclusive prime time Monday night rights. What a bunch of idiots in Bristol. While this doesn't affect me, I am pissed for all my fellow Ravens brothers & sisters outside the area. In case those of you who are here are wondering, the game will be on WJZ of course, but also WHP from Harrisburg, WBOC from Salisbury & WUSA in DC.

PARavensJeff
09-12-2008, 09:17 AM
Yeah I commented on that little snide comment that Florio threw in there, but he has been saying all preseason that it wouldn't surprise him if the Ravens won the division...so I cut him a little slack lol.

Yea, Florio is a smart ass but his stuff is right on, perhaps the best NFL (non team related of course) on the net. + you're correct, he has been saying the Ravens are the darhorse in the North.

HoustonRaven
09-12-2008, 09:20 AM
PAR,

Im watching ABC as well and it's all about Galveston, not Houston.

Inland winds wont get higher then around 75-80 mph. The worst of it will be areas to the east of I-45, well away from the stadium.

PARavensJeff
09-12-2008, 09:26 AM
PAR,

Im watching ABC as well and it's all about Galveston, not Houston.

Inland winds wont get higher then around 75-80 mph. The worst of it will be areas to the east of I-45, well away from the stadium.

Good, I hope that holds true HR.

As far as the Sunday Ticket issue, at the end of the story about ESPN's exclusive prime time Monday Night rights, there is a link to send your complaints to ESPN from blocking the game from being shown on Sunday Ticket. I sent 1 & encorage every1, even if it doesn't affect you, to do the same to help out Ravens fans outside the market.

Galen Sevinne
09-12-2008, 09:28 AM
What if the sky falls on the stadium?

HoustonRaven
09-12-2008, 09:40 AM
The local ABC affiliate is known for being the doom and gloom channel.

obannon35
09-12-2008, 09:53 AM
Yea, Florio is a smart ass but his stuff is right on, perhaps the best NFL (non team related of course) on the net. + you're correct, he has been saying the Ravens are the darhorse in the North.


I would have to agree with you, my favorite site is profootballtalk as well. They really don't bs around, and there's not much nonsense, just straight forward info. Florio is a quite the smart ass but he always come through with info well before any or most of the major media outlets do.

FellsPointRaven
09-12-2008, 10:40 AM
I have two problems with this.

1) If the game doesn't go ahead at all (i.e. Reliant Stadium gets blown away and they re-schedule for another week) then my fantasy team are shot as I've got the Ravens D.
2) Monday is my wedding anniversary and I'm taking the wife out for a swanky meal. I don't think she'll take well to me telling her to 'hurry up, the game kicks off in five minutes', leaving me with no alternative other than to record the game and take Tuesday morning off work to watch it. :thumbdown:

WxKevin
09-12-2008, 11:26 AM
I have two problems with this.

1) If the game doesn't go ahead at all (i.e. Reliant Stadium gets blown away and they re-schedule for another week) then my fantasy team are shot as I've got the Ravens D.
2) Monday is my wedding anniversary and I'm taking the wife out for a swanky meal. I don't think she'll take well to me telling her to 'hurry up, the game kicks off in five minutes', leaving me with no alternative other than to record the game and take Tuesday morning off work to watch it. :thumbdown:

Fells...We never end up going out on our actual Anniversary unless it is on Friday and Saturday. Why can't you guys just move it to Tuesday? Our Anniversary was last Monday but we went out last Saturday. Still full from Fogo's :thumbup:

HoustonRaven....My degree is in Meteorology so I know a bit about Hurricanes. You do sound like you are educated about Hurricanes and especially about how they affect Galveston and Houston. But remember, what ever is being forecasted now is not what will happen. These storms are just way too unpredictable to nail down the exact path and movement. The meteorology world has come a long, long way but it is not to the point where you can predict down to 30 miles of difference. Also, you never know when these storms will break away from the general atmospheric flow and just stop and spin over top an area for a few days.

My point is that although the forecast says it will fine on Sunday there is always the chance that it is not. The most likely scenario is that the storm is out of there by Sunday morning but there is a small percentage chance that it doesn't. I am a poker player and I know about small percentages. I am notorius for getting drawn out on the river when my opponents have 2 outs which is equivalent to a 5% chance.

Mista T
09-12-2008, 11:34 AM
Cat 2 is almost routine here and Houston sits 75 miles inland. Even it gets up to a Cat 3, the winds inland wont be high enough to create any significant damage to the stadium.

With all due respect to a Houston area resident, your 75 mile number is way, way off. I have spent a lot of time in Houston over my career, particularly Galveston, Freeport, Clear Lake, and I know the area well, including how it weathers huge rainstorms. It's 50 miles from Galveston to Reliant Stadium, over relatively flat & low-lying land. But if the storm comes up Galveston Bay, all hell could break loose. It could be a similar storm surge than that generated by Katrina, which hit the Rigolets and Lake Pontchartrain, causing the water pressure that broke the levees. The distance from Reliant Stadium to Clear Lake area on Galveston Bay is under 30 miles, and it's about 20 miles from La Porte on Galveston Bay to downtown Houston.

Reliant Stadium per se shouldn't be flooded in any event, although it would be susceptible to wind damage - but metro Houston can be hit hard with damage and power losses which could impact playing the game on Monday.




They should have just played the game here! I am leaving for Denver Monday morning. I better be able to find a place out there to watch it or the NFL is in trouble with me.

Kevin: I am also in the Denver area and torn as to sticking around or going home. I had planned to meet up with Sykesville Ravens Fan in Breckinridge to watch the game on Sunday, but now that's out. I am currently scheduled to fly back on Monday 5:20 pm, which would cause me to miss the game. I would delay returning another day in order to catch the game on Monday night, but I don't know what good that would do - with ESPN blocking satellite TV broadcast of the game and CBS limiting coverage to Ravens & Texans regional stations.

If something works out with the ESPN issue, we could hook up with Denver John down below or Sykesville Ravens Fan up in the mountains. Otherwise: set the DVR (which I will have to figure out how to handle remotely).

HoustonRaven
09-12-2008, 11:35 AM
WxKevin,

Thanks for the info. And I too play poker! ;) I should add a caveat to my posts that reads "...but there is always a chance that things could get worse".

A few things that are making me think this will be relatively minor (emphasis on the word relatively).... pressure is steady / rising as the storm approaches and inland winds probably wont get higher then 65 mph.

HoustonRaven
09-12-2008, 11:45 AM
Mista T,

Houston proper sits 40 miles above sea level. Yes, there are a few low lying areas, but by and large this city drains very well given its location to Galveston Bay.

The low lying areas are already evacuated as of early yesterday.

bmoreravengirl
09-12-2008, 12:19 PM
I'm glad I live in Baltimore and don't have to worry about missing the game, although I have SERIOUS reservations about whether or not there will even be a game on Monday night.

Khaine
09-12-2008, 01:32 PM
As the token California resident I have to call BULL@$%^!!!!!!

I only get 16 (hopefully more) fracking games a year?!?!
If ESPN wants to keep all Monday night games on their @$%& channel put the game in ESPN2 or something.

Godsonofamotherlessgoatfuc*ers#hitsatin!

FellsPointRaven
09-12-2008, 01:45 PM
As the token California resident I have to call BULL@$%^!!!!!!

I only get 16 (hopefully more) fracking games a year?!?!
If ESPN wants to keep all Monday night games on their @$%& channel put the game in ESPN2 or something.

Godsonofamotherlessgoatfuc*ers#hitsatin!

"Fracking"? Your name isn't Hank is it?

You should email ESPN and complain. Given the extenuating circumstances they should allow the game to run on Sunday Ticket so out of town Ravens/Texans fans can see the game. If enough people write in they may reconsider...

ngata_yards
09-12-2008, 01:56 PM
Here's ESPN BS canned response:
"Thank you for contacting ESPN.

Due to the importance of allowing the Houston area to focus on its recovery from the expected arrival of Hurricane Ike on Friday, the Houston Texans' home game Sunday against the Baltimore Ravens has been re-scheduled for Monday night at Reliant Stadium at 7:30 PM Houston time (8:30 PM ET).

The game originally was scheduled to be played on Sunday, September 14 at 3:15 PM Houston Time (4:15 PM ET).

The Texans-Ravens Monday night game will be televised on local CBS stations in the primary and secondary markets of the Texans (Houston, Beaumont-Port Arthur, and Bryan, Texas) and the Ravens (Baltimore; Washington, DC; Salisbury, MD; and Harrisburg, PA).

ESPN has exclusive primetime rights for Monday Night Football. We aplogize for any inconvience this may have caused to DIRECTV subscribers.

sincerely,

ESPN Viewer Response Team"

BTW, I'm in Charleston, SC and a DirecTV Sunday Ticket subscriber

Khaine
09-12-2008, 02:06 PM
"Fracking"? Your name isn't Hank is it?

You should email ESPN and complain. Given the extenuating circumstances they should allow the game to run on Sunday Ticket so out of town Ravens/Texans fans can see the game. If enough people write in they may reconsider...

http://espn.go.com/sitetools/s/contact/espntv.html
Here is the link to complain... I doubt it'll do a huellova lot of good but I'm willing to try.

I emailed, I bitched... I'm sending the link to folks I know who will complain as well. Man, this sucks... I spend all week looking forward to Ravens games... and to be robbed like this pisses me off. :(

And no, I am not a Hank... ;)

HoustonRaven
09-12-2008, 02:06 PM
Contacting ESPN to try and get the game on is like contacting ESPN to try and get American Idol on.

CBS has the rights to the game, not ESPN. ESPN has rights to specific games, not a monopoly on games that are played on Monday night.

IF ESPN were to show the game, they would have to get permission from (1) the league and (2) CBS.

Might as well send a letter to American Airlines, complaining about the food at McDonalds -- same result.

highwater
09-12-2008, 02:12 PM
Houston is right -- this is a CBS game, not ESPN. ESPN has the MNF games, but this wasn't supposed to be on Monday night, so it's out of ESPN's hands.

I'm beginning to wonder if this game will even take place on Monday night.

HoustonRaven
09-12-2008, 02:27 PM
Pre-storm preparations ...

http://www.new.facebook.com/album.php?aid=39033&l=3a429&id=525186451

FellsPointRaven
09-12-2008, 02:34 PM
Houston is right -- this is a CBS game, not ESPN. ESPN has the MNF games, but this wasn't supposed to be on Monday night, so it's out of ESPN's hands.

I'm beginning to wonder if this game will even take place on Monday night.

ESPN have the exclusive rights to MNF - they also have the power to waive that right. They have to give permission to CBS/DirectTV to allow them to show the game nationally (via Sunday ticket). They have chosen not to do this because they feel they will lose viewers and it will probably piss off their advertisers.

I'd like to see them allow it as a gesture of goodwill to out of town fans in these fairly unique circumstances.

HoustonRaven
09-12-2008, 02:42 PM
FPR, I am sorry but that's just flat out wrong.

The league sells it as a package of games to the various networks, not who gets games on what day. ESPN has the rights to the GAMES that were designated as Monday night games, NOT any games that happen to fall on Monday night.

If you were right, CBS would have to pack up all their crap (which is already there) and ESPN can wave a wand and make the game theirs. How many trucks, cameras, etc do you think ESPN has in Houston right now? Zero.

There is no right for ESPN to waive since CBS has the rights to the game.

section553
09-12-2008, 03:03 PM
FPR, I am sorry but that's just flat out wrong.

The league sells it as a package of games to the various networks, not who gets games on what day. ESPN has the rights to the GAMES that were designated as Monday night games, NOT any games that happen to fall on Monday night.

If you were right, CBS would have to pack up all their crap (which is already there) and ESPN can wave a wand and make the game theirs. How many trucks, cameras, etc do you think ESPN has in Houston right now? Zero.

There is no right for ESPN to waive since CBS has the rights to the game.



ESPN owns the rights to exclusively air Monday night primetime games. Should ESPN waive that right the Ticket and Direct TV could air the game.

HoustonRaven
09-12-2008, 03:07 PM
ESPN owns the rights to exclusively air Monday night primetime games. Should ESPN waive that right the Ticket and Direct TV could air the game.

Agreed.

But why? They have a winner with the Dallas v. Philly game. Even here in Houston, people will want to see that game over the Texans v. Ravens. It's ratings suicide to compete against themselves.

FellsPointRaven
09-12-2008, 03:16 PM
Agreed.

But why? They have a winner with the Dallas v. Philly game. Even here in Houston, people will want to see that game over the Texans v. Ravens. It's ratings suicide to compete against themselves.

So if you agree then I'm not flat out wrong, as that's exactly what I was saying.

I was NOT saying ESPN can show the game. I was saying that ESPN has the power to allow OTHERS to show the game.

As you say, most neutrals will watch ESPN anyway, so they'd only lose Ravens and Texans fans to DirectTV, most of whom they are pissing off anyway by not allowing CBS to broadcast it nationally on Sunday Ticket.

HoustonRaven
09-12-2008, 03:18 PM
So if you agree then I'm not flat out wrong, as that's exactly what I was saying.

I was NOT saying ESPN can show the game. I was saying that ESPN has the power to allow OTHERS to show the game.

As you say, most neutrals will watch ESPN anyway, so they'd only lose Ravens and Texans fans to DirectTV, most of whom they are pissing off anyway by not allowing CBS to broadcast it nationally on Sunday Ticket.

Gotcha ... my bad for the misread. ;)

GirlsKickButt
09-12-2008, 03:20 PM
Un-effin-real.

Really, I understand that they have advertisers to make happy, but come on, wouldn't getting TWO sets of fans/advertisers be better?

I'm heading to Vegas with my beau on Sunday and one of our plans was to watch the game in a sports book. Needless to say, unless ESPN has a change of heart, which I seriously doubt, we won't be seeing the game at all.

B@stards!

deuce
09-12-2008, 03:26 PM
There is NO chance this game is played in Houston Monday night. I cant believe the NFL has not moved this game to a neutral location already. There is going to be catastrophig damage in that area, and even if Reliant Stadium is OK it would be a complete disaster hosting an NFL game in that area that soon.

camdenyard
09-12-2008, 03:43 PM
There is NO chance this game is played in Houston Monday night. I cant believe the NFL has not moved this game to a neutral location already. There is going to be catastrophig damage in that area, and even if Reliant Stadium is OK it would be a complete disaster hosting an NFL game in that area that soon.

There is a chance it will be played there, but I agree wholeheartedly with the poster's sentiment. In my opinion, it is irresponsible for the NFL to schedule this game in Houston on Monday. They surely draw from a wide area in south Texas, including Galveston - an area that is going to be hurt bad. People are going to be picking up their lives this week, not worrying about football.

Khaine
09-12-2008, 03:44 PM
The LA Coliseum is neutral...

I'm just sayin is all. I'd be there ;)

Even if I had to call in dead to work and put the tickets on a credit card.

But as it sounds now I'm not even going to get to see it on TV let alone in person... :(

Khaine
09-12-2008, 03:45 PM
p.s. I hope everyone in the area of Ike are safe and sound...

Khaine
09-12-2008, 03:46 PM
Does this mean it is on Direct TV now?
http://www.nfl.com/schedules#Week

btownraven
09-12-2008, 04:07 PM
Does this mean it is on Direct TV now?
http://www.nfl.com/schedules#Week
I doubt it. That was the channel it was supposed to be on Sunday. Someone probably copied it and didn't remove the DIRECTV channels.

I'm really angry about this. I pay $350 for 14 Ravens games (2 are on national TV). That's $25/game. Because of ESPN's greed and arrogance, I lose $25. I used to go to an ESPNZone a couple of times a year and spend more than $25 each time. They can forget about it now. I'm not going back there for a long time.

shaslers
09-12-2008, 04:15 PM
The NFL and ESPN announced they changed their mind. Sunday Ticket customers throughout the country will now be able to see Monday's Ravens-Texans game. (It will be blacked out for Sunday Ticket subscribers the Houston and Baltimore areas, where the game will be on CBS instead).

Khaine
09-12-2008, 04:19 PM
Have a link or something?

(I don't want to get too excited just to get all bummed again)

shaslers
09-12-2008, 04:22 PM
Just posted on PFT.com (http://www.profootballtalk.com/category/rumor-mill/)


RAVENS-TEXANS GAME WILL AIR ON DIRECTV
Posted by Mike Florio on September 12, 2008, 4:32 p.m.

Well, we’re not quite sure why or how it happened, but the good folks at the NFL and ESPN have decided that the Monday night game between the Baltimore Ravens and Houston Texans will be available to DirecTV customers.

“After taking a closer look at it, we have decided that our Sunday Ticket subscribers will receive Monday night’s telecast of the Baltimore Ravens at Houston Texans game,” NFL spokesman Greg Aiello told us by e-mail a few moments ago.

The game won’t be available via DirecTV in Baltimore or Houston, but it wouldn’t be available via DirecTV in those cities if they played the game on Sunday. In those cities, it can be seen on the local CBS affiliate.

Kudos to the league and ESPN for doing the right thing.

HoustonRaven
09-12-2008, 04:28 PM
wow .... thats quite the gesture indeed!

Khaine
09-12-2008, 04:33 PM
Yay!

Now I won't be a grumpy bastage all weekend!!!

'course, the Mother-in-law is still visiting but this would have severely compounded the whole thing.

RavenFanatic2k6
09-12-2008, 05:01 PM
Don't get too excited that the game is on DTV. Everyone should have serious doubts that the game is being played Monday night, at least in Houston. Methinks there is less than 5% chance that happens.

HoustonRaven
09-12-2008, 05:06 PM
I'll put my next pay check on that 5% claim.

At worst, Houston will see the storm downgrade to Cat 1 by the time the storm gets inland (assuming the storm doesnt do anything weird in the next 8 hours). The storm will be completely gone by out of the Houston area (and a tropical storm) by this time tomorrow. Come Sunday, the storm will be so far north it isnt even worth mentioning.

camdenyard
09-12-2008, 05:36 PM
The storm will be completely gone by out of the Houston area (and a tropical storm) by this time tomorrow. Come Sunday, the storm will be so far north it isnt even worth mentioning.

Sure, except that everything will be a mess on Sunday. When a tree is on top of your living room, or when your beach house has been swept away, the last thing you care about is a football game the next day.

Or may be you do.

ravenwoman
09-12-2008, 05:55 PM
I think the NFL will make a final decision by Sunday morning. Until the hurricane is done and over with, all we can do is speculate. I am sure they have a Plan B in their plans.

psuasskicker
09-12-2008, 07:33 PM
Don't get too excited that the game is on DTV. Everyone should have serious doubts that the game is being played Monday night, at least in Houston. Methinks there is less than 5% chance that happens.

I'll take your 20 to 1 odds for $20 that this game will be played Monday night in Houston.

- C -

The Fanatic
09-12-2008, 07:57 PM
I hope they have alot of candles down there.
They just said on the weather channel that potentially the Houston area could have a million customers without power when this is over.

Yup, whole freakin town should be up and runnin' by monday night!!:thumbup: :eyes:

ravensfan1996
09-12-2008, 08:08 PM
I think the NFL has done the best they could, they had to look out for the fans, the teams and Houston. What they did is fine, they made a decison to play monday night, that way by sunday morning when the ravens would fly in, they would know how bad the damage is, if its too bad, the ravens havent left yet and could fly to where ever the game would be as well as the texans.

If they decided to play in dallas or atlanta or whereever and the storm turned out to be ok in houston, then houston is pissed cuz they lose all the home game and $$ etc. You cant win either way but think this is the best so far...we weill see what happens tomorrow

HoustonRaven
09-12-2008, 08:12 PM
I hope they have alot of candles down there.
They just said on the weather channel that potentially the Houston area could have a million customers without power when this is over.

Yup, whole freakin town should be up and runnin' by monday night!!:thumbup: :eyes:

In a city of 4 million, that's only a 25% outage.

WxKevin
09-12-2008, 08:29 PM
Talked to Mista T and we are getting together in Denver to watch the game now that we can actually see it.

HoustonRaven....stay safe. Whether the Ravens play Monday night or not, the storm is going to be bad for a whole lot of people. Don't be stupid and not take the storm seriously. Here's to getting together in the future to drink some beers, play some poker and watch the Ravens kick some ass! :beer:

HoustonRaven
09-12-2008, 09:03 PM
HoustonRaven....stay safe. Whether the Ravens play Monday night or not, the storm is going to be bad for a whole lot of people. Don't be stupid and not take the storm seriously. Here's to getting together in the future to drink some beers, play some poker and watch the Ravens kick some ass! :beer:

Definitely. Condo all boarded up and I have plenty of provisions. This Raven fan will be ok! ;)

Ravenswarrior19
09-12-2008, 09:12 PM
I'll put my next pay check on that 5% claim.

At worst, Houston will see the storm downgrade to Cat 1 by the time the storm gets inland (assuming the storm doesnt do anything weird in the next 8 hours). The storm will be completely gone by out of the Houston area (and a tropical storm) by this time tomorrow. Come Sunday, the storm will be so far north it isnt even worth mentioning.

I hope you're right my friend.

RavenFanatic2k6
09-12-2008, 09:25 PM
I'll put my next pay check on that 5% claim.

At worst, Houston will see the storm downgrade to Cat 1 by the time the storm gets inland (assuming the storm doesnt do anything weird in the next 8 hours). The storm will be completely gone by out of the Houston area (and a tropical storm) by this time tomorrow. Come Sunday, the storm will be so far north it isnt even worth mentioning.

I'm going to assume you have never been through a hurricane as that statement is spoken like someone who hasn't. Just because it's blown through and the storm is gone doesn't mean it's over and everything is all well and good. Even if it's downgraded to a Cat 1 (which goes against EVERYTHING that I have seen saying it's only growing and getting stronger), that still is no joke. It sounds like power outages and debris cleanup is going to be the least of the cities concerns.

I hope you are right and it doesn't do alot of damage and the game does get played but don't count on it. Be safe.

HoustonRaven
09-12-2008, 09:32 PM
Been through a bunch.

It has increased in intensity a bit so it will hit land as a Cat 3. Max winds in Houston (not Galveston) will be around 80 mph. The city will see moderate flooding, especially the lower areas south and west of downtown. Houston will see the brunt of it starting around 3 am tonight and will last about 12-16 hours.

Everyone up in B'more is seeing what's going on in Galveston and think that's happening here. It will be a bad storm for sure, but nothing like what Galveston is getting.

Galveston could be wiped off the map.

Purpleguy
09-12-2008, 09:51 PM
Well if it's on directTV I might be able to catch it at a bar in Beckley, WV. There is a Hooters across the street from my hotel room. Does Hooter's usually have Direct Ticket?

RavensD52
09-12-2008, 11:26 PM
The change really sucks for me, I am stationed in hawaii so it starts at about 1pm here and I'll be at work for the whole game. But luckily I have sunday ticket and a dvr but hopefully I dont hear the score before I watch it.

RAVENOUS52
09-13-2008, 03:17 AM
Just out of the recent national sensitivity for things of this nature, I don't see the Ravens playing the Texans in Houston Monday Night if anything resembling what is being predicted occurs.

Now what's Goodell's alternate plan?

HoustonRaven
09-13-2008, 05:07 AM
Still here and still with power ....

The Girlfriend just called. Shes an ER nurse and can see Reliant Stadium from her hospital -- bright as a Christmas tree.

RavenDavey
09-13-2008, 06:06 AM
Glad you made it thru OK!! (and the stadium)

bmorebirds_24
09-13-2008, 08:36 AM
glad to see all is well with you houston.keep the updates coming and stay safe.

HoustonRaven
09-13-2008, 08:42 AM
According to the news, the "worst" is gone (although they are vague on what they actually consider the worst). Everything should gradually get better as the day progresses.

Power is out over 70% of the city, majority of that is on the south and west side of the city -- which are the flood areas.

Brennan's Restaurant -- a weekly spot for me and The Girlfriend -- has burned completely to the ground. This is truly sad and will stay in the headlines here locally for a while.

The Fanatic
09-13-2008, 08:42 AM
http://www.baltimoresun.com/media/photo/2008-09/42332205.jpg

Don't know, with stuff like this going on around the Houston/Galveston area, not too sure getting in a football game is high on the priority list.

But hey, the stadium and downtown has electric, so what the hell, the 1+ million without will just have to wait a little longer.

"More than 1.3 million customers -- or 2.9 million people -- had lost power, and suppliers warned it could be weeks before all the service was restored. The only parts of Houston with power were downtown and the massive medical center section."

Let's Get Ready To Rumbbbbbllllleeeeee!!!!! (http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/weather/bal-ike0913,0,5143821.story)

HoustonRaven
09-13-2008, 08:46 AM
http://www.baltimoresun.com/media/photo/2008-09/42332205.jpg

Don't know, with stuff like this going on around the Houston/Galveston area, not too sure getting in a football game is high on the priority list.

But hey, the stadium and downtown has electric, so what the hell, the 1+ million without will just have to wait a little longer.

"More than 1.3 million customers -- or 2.9 million people -- had lost power, and suppliers warned it could be weeks before all the service was restored. The only parts of Houston with power were downtown and the massive medical center section."

Let's Get Ready To Rumbbbbbllllleeeeee!!!!! (http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/weather/bal-ike0913,0,5143821.story)

Dont confuse what happened in Galveston as what's going on in Houston.

My family has been seeing those pics and thinking that's going on here. It isnt.

Galveston got :girlfight with this storm but Houston, by and large, has nothing more then regular storm damage to speak of. Just saw pictures on the local news that a construction crane was left to swing in the wind -- looks like a giant 45 story wind needle right now.

Houston pumps are still going so flooding should be down to a minimum come game time.

3RDRowRaven
09-13-2008, 09:20 AM
I don't see the Ravens playing the Texans in Houston Monday Night if anything resembling what is being predicted occurs.

I don't see it happening either. My Dad told me that he heard on the radio yesterday that the game could be moved to Atlanta.

I'll be really surprised if they did play at Houston on Monday night.

RavenFanatic2k6
09-13-2008, 10:29 AM
This is from a post on the Scout board.

Texans game postponed, damage reported at Reliant

A preliminary assessment showed some damage to Reliant Stadium after Ike passed through.

``We lost about five panels from the stadium (roof), and then some doors were blown off,'' said Edgar Colon, chairman of the Harris County Sports and Convention Corp. By mid-morning, he had not been able to personally visit the site.

``We have not been able to give a visual inspection,'' Colon said. ``This right now is preliminary. We have not done a full inspection.''

He was pleased that Minute Maid Park apparently withstood the storm.
Monday's Texans game will be postponed

http://blogs.chron.com/hurricanes/2008/09/texans_game_postponed_damage_r.html

RavenFanatic2k6
09-13-2008, 10:50 AM
Updated

The Houston Texas will not be playing their home opener against the Baltimore Ravens on Monday night at Reliant Stadium.

The game was supposed to have been played at 7:30 p.m., but Hurricane Ike has caused damage to the stadium that has made it unsuitable for hosting the game.

"The facility will not be usable," said Shey Guinn, president of SMG, the company that manages Reliant Park.

"There's some structural damage to the roof. Part of it is off," Guinn said.

"There's also some other damage on the property caused by wind and water. We're in the process of assessing the damage," he said. "As far as the game being postponed again or played, that will be up to the NFL."

The game had originally been set for 3:15 p.m. Sunday, but because of Ike the NFL moved it to Monday night.

The Texas and Ravens will have no comment until they hear from the league.

The Fanatic
09-13-2008, 10:56 AM
Still here and still with power ....

The Girlfriend just called. Shes an ER nurse and can see Reliant Stadium from her hospital -- bright as a Christmas tree.


Those brightlights your girlfriend is seeing must be from the beams of interior lights passing through the holes in the roof where there are roofing panels missing.


Only person on here that thought this game was going to be played was the guy actually living in Houston.

For the NFL to even think that this game could be played with what the forecast was going to be was idiotic at best.

Even if they could move the game somewhere else like Atlanta, New Orleans, etc., who's to say the Texans actually have the ability right now to get there?

They could have yesterday, but now.......:229031_confused2:

Rayvens52
09-13-2008, 11:02 AM
this game has to be played this week right? There is no way to move the game to a later date.

The Fanatic
09-13-2008, 11:05 AM
this game has to be played this week right? There is no way to move the game to a later date.

Somehow, I get the feeling we are going to screwed in some way due to the NFLs decision to wait to see what happens rather then be proactive to the situation.

By screwd I mean playing this game on our bye week, and having this be our bye week.

Now that would require some other stuff and teams to maneauver around a bit, but it is a possibility.

Mista T
09-13-2008, 11:07 AM
this game has to be played this week right? There is no way to move the game to a later date.

Unfortunately, a very real scenario the NFL is considering involves making this weekend the bye for Ravens and Texans, with a swap of later byes with the Bengals. Sucks: this game should be played Monday night at the Alamodome, 3 hour bus ride away for the Texans and just a different airport for the Ravens, easily accessible and apparently not impacted by the storm.

Rayvens52
09-13-2008, 11:07 AM
Somehow, I get the feeling we are going to screwed in some way due to the NFLs decision to wait to see what happens rather then be proactive to the situation.

By screwd I mean playing this game on our bye week, and having this be our bye week.

Now that would require some other stuff and teams to maneauver around a bit, but it is a possibility.

That would be the worst shit ever :ref:

The Fanatic
09-13-2008, 11:10 AM
That would be the worst shit ever :ref:

No, the worst shit ever is living in a city/town and having it demolished by a hurricane.

It could rank up there is some as the dumbest shit ever though by the NFL not to have already moved it to safer grounds.

Rayvens52
09-13-2008, 11:11 AM
No, the worst shit ever is living in a city/town and having it demolished by a hurricane.

It could rank up there is some as the dumbest shit ever though by the NFL not to have already moved it to safer grounds.

sorry should have made it clear that was what I was saying, ofcourse dealing with that is bad, i was simply talking about the game

bmorebirds_24
09-13-2008, 11:32 AM
from everything i have heard its gonna be played on our bye week so there for the ravens get screwed out of thier bye week in week 10.meaning this is our bye week in which was after only one game(as everyone already knows) but the players didnt get their week to relax and take their mind off football and deal with personal issues.shit happens in life nobody can can control certain things but the NFL could have very well set up some kind of arrangement to play this game is an area that is much more safe then houston.just another way the NFL slams us in the ass.


i understand this is a very serious time and more important then just football and a game but everybody knows this game will be played so why the hell couldnt they move it somewhere else.it f'n irks the shit out of me

Merlin
09-13-2008, 05:43 PM
We have definitely been screwed.

The league has optimized around economics, but not around either teams, frankly.

I think the Houston Texans would rather have a game on a neutral field than get screwed on their bye.

Lee Van Cleef
09-13-2008, 06:18 PM
I think the Houston Texans would rather have a game on a neutral field than get screwed on their bye.

Apparently Bob McNair was refusing to have the game played at an alternate venue.

festivus
09-13-2008, 08:53 PM
I was checking out NST's new site and came across DF's blog (http://www.wnst.net/WNSTBaltimoreSportsRadio/tabid/36/EntryID/6257/Default.aspx) on the subject. He presents a pretty interesting argument that the NFL did the right thing for the Houston Texans and their community by handling it this way.

It's worth a look.

Sephy
09-14-2008, 12:04 AM
All I can say is: Oh Freaking Please. If you think Bob McNair and the Texans refused to have another site host this game for any reason other than economics you are out of your damn mind. Are any of those issues with people losing homes going to change next week, when the Texans go somewhere else to play their next scheduled game?

Mishandled by the NFL and pushed around by an owner wanting his green - period.

Drkraven
09-14-2008, 02:46 AM
I have a heart and think Goodell screwed the pooch on this and the Ravens, Texans and Bengals. Anyone who watched the Weather Channel knew this storm was going to have a huge impact as soon as Wed. Bob McNair should have reached into his wallet and put the team and their family's up in Austin, kinda like the Saints did for Gustav. Obviously his greed and heartlessness knows no bounds. Did he think of the police officers working 12 on and 12 off that would have to direct traffic for the game? The people that bought tickets to the game that would not be able to go because of work/family obligations? Nope he already has their money:( If he really cared he would have had the game at a neutral stadium and taken donations for hurricane relief, like they did a few years ago when the Chargers had to move to AZ because of the wildfires. You can bet your last dollar if it was one of the NFL Darlings, aka irsay's or Patriots, the game would have gone on. Goodell has the spine of a jellyfish. Natural disasters happen and its not like this was a huge surprise, there should have been a better plan, the people of Houston deserve better and so do the Ravens.

PARavensJeff
09-14-2008, 03:15 AM
I didn't have a chance to get on here yesterday, we had my youngest son's
4th BD party. I did see the announcement & was really po'd. We heard when they made the decision to play Monday night they had a backup plan to play @ another site. Well now my team get's screwed & has to play 15 games w/o a bye, our bye is the 2nd week of the season, we have 5 of 6 games on the road, etc, etc. The league, in pursuit of their image, never wanted to play this game anywhere else but Houston. I heard a reporter for the Houston Chronicle on the NFLN before the conference call took place & he was saying the league was "callous" if they moved this game to a neutral site on Monday rather than reschedule in Houston later. It appears the league caved to this kind of pressure rather than using common sense. With all due respect to the people who went thru this event in Houston, the game should have been played in New Orleans Monday night since the Superdome is already set up for football. End of story!!

RavenDavey
09-14-2008, 09:21 AM
Yes we do lose an important bye week int the middle of the season, but having this week off does have an advantage. We have numerous players with naggin injuries to start the regular season. This early bye week should put us in a better position moving forward.

StingerNLG
09-14-2008, 07:54 PM
Yes we do lose an important bye week int the middle of the season, but having this week off does have an advantage. We have numerous players with naggin injuries to start the regular season. This early bye week should put us in a better position moving forward.

No way.

1) We don't get a true bye. The players get 3 days off. Ooooooo.

2) We now have to play 15 weeks in a row.

3) 5 of 6 games, 3 in a row, on the road. IN NOVEMBER!


The fact that EVERYONE knew this storm was coming DAYS in advance, should have given the NFL plenty of time to set the plan. Send Texas to us, change our Oakland game to away, change Texas @ Oakland to a home game.

How is it fans can figure that out, but the NFL can't?

PARavensJeff
09-14-2008, 08:08 PM
How is it fans can figure that out, but the NFL can't?

Because we are from Baltimore & the NFL can't because they are out to screw Baltimore

bmorebirds_24
09-14-2008, 10:16 PM
[QUOTE=StingerNLG;96134]No way.

1) We don't get a true bye. The players get 3 days off. Ooooooo.

2) We now have to play 15 weeks in a row.

3) 5 of 6 games, 3 in a row, on the road. IN NOVEMBER!


The fact that EVERYONE knew this storm was coming DAYS in advance, should have given the NFL plenty of time to set the plan. Send Texas to us, change our Oakland game to away, change Texas @ Oakland to a home game.

QUOTE]



thats one hell of a call i never thought of it that way but sure makes alot of sense and is alot more fair to both teams then the NFL and mr.goodell slamming us in the ass.GOOD CALL STINGER!!!!!!!!!!!

RavenDavey
09-15-2008, 03:23 PM
Yes we did practice for the week, but what I was referring to is as a team we would not pound each other in practice, and then play a physically demanding game. My remark for the week off meant for the game basically.

Now, I totally agree that we got screwed by the NFL and would have preferred other considerations in light of Ike. I do try to present an optimistic view though...

Khaine
09-15-2008, 03:45 PM
I hope to (insert divine deity here) we can manage to play well on the 15+ game marathon...

I also hope all the folks in the area hit by the storm are OK... or as OK as possible at least.

ravensmaven
09-15-2008, 04:06 PM
It seems to me there was no way to make everyone happy. I think if we were hit by the storm and our stadium was damaged like that we wouldn't be very happy if the NFL just decided that it would be just as well to have the game played at an alternate location. How would that work? How would it be worked out as far as tickets go? How would fans feel if they had to leave their water-logged homes to see their team play three hours away or just flush that hard-earned money down the toilet and maybe not even be able to watch on TV because you have no power. If they just moved the game to another stadium then all the Houston fans would be saying they were screwed and the NFL didn't care about them.

Ravenator
09-17-2008, 11:23 AM
I know this is a bit late, but I wanted to add that originally I thought the switching Oakland games would be great...but in reality we would have had to play four road games in a row if we made that switch. I really think the NFL could have done something better with the situation. We did get screwed without lube. I hope Goodell liked it.