Colts shut down the #2 RB

[Colts1]

The Colts defense had a good day against the Chiefs. If they give the same effort in Baltimore, do you think the Ravens O has an answer?

PS...I was a Baltimore Colts fan before the move, so venting over the history is wasted on me.

[Losac]

Uh, yes: Steve McNair, Mark Clayton, Todd Heap, Derrick Mason, Demetrius Williams. Your Colts did not have a good day so much as the Chiefs were just horrendous. I've honestly never seen such a vanilla, lame, poorly executed gameplan as Herm's Chiefs had. The Ravens have a much more balanced offense than the Chiefs so you'll have to do more than just stack the box to stop the run. Do that and Steve will carve up your pathetic D.


PS...I was a Baltimore Colts fan before the move, so venting over the history is wasted on me.
So you're a traitor in my book.

[festivus]

Welcome to the forum.

As I recall Peyton has never played especially well against the Ravens defense, which is peaking now. And neither the Colts defense or offense seem to play well away from home. Peyton will have to use smoke signals to communicate his audibles with the crowd noise. . .

Plus the Ravens strengths, the short to medium passing game and the power running game, strain what appears to be the Colts defensive weakness.

In Indianapolis this would be a much more interesting game. Any given Sunday blah blah blah, the Ravens should beat Indy pretty convincingly.

Again, welcome to the forum.

[Colts1]

Welcome to the forum.

As I recall Peyton has never played especially well against the Ravens defense, which is peaking now. And neither the Colts defense or offense seem to play well away from home. Peyton will have to use smoke signals to communicate his audibles with the crowd noise. . .

No doubt it will be loud, but I think you'll still see plenty of the no huddle O. They managed at Mile High against the Broncos...so while noise is always an issue...I don't see it being a major factor. You are right about the Colts on the road though. This year for some reason the Colts have struggled there, but except for the Jags game they were in every game they lost.


Plus the Ravens strengths, the short to medium passing game and the power running game, strain what appears to be the Colts defensive weakness.

It is that power running game the Colts shut down this past weekend, and giving the short to medium passing game has always been their strategy. So my guess is this is going to be a great game.


In Indianapolis this would be a much more interesting game. Any given Sunday blah blah blah, the Ravens should beat Indy pretty convincingly.

Again, welcome to the forum.

Thanks for the welcome, looking forward to what could be a really interesting matchup.

[deuce]

Will you hang a banner "We Stopped LJ" next to your "AFC Finalist" banner? Congratulations!

Oh, and welcome to the board.

[festivus]

It is that power running game the Colts shut down this past weekend, and giving the short to medium passing game has always been their strategy. So my guess is this is going to be a great game.


The Colts did to KC what the Titans did to us in '03. Forced us to be one dimensional and at the time we didn't have the tools to compensate.

KC didn't, we do.

Also there's a big difference between "No huddle" and "No audible."

edited to add:
If you just came here to brag about how good the Indy defense looked against a mediocre offense at home, perhaps you should not beat your chest so hard *before* the game.

[Colts1]

Will you hang a banner "We Stopped LJ" next to your "AFC Finalist" banner? Congratulations!

Oh, and welcome to the board.


:laugh: Good one....maybe we should :)

The media made such issue of it, that stuffing LJ was such a gratifying event...before the game Collinsworth doing commentary said "We've never seen a defense this bad...we're going to see a lot of LJ" :rolling:

[Colts1]

If you just came here to brag about how good the Indy defense looked against a mediocre offense at home, perhaps you should not beat your chest so hard *before* the game.

I did not think I was beating my chest at all. That is not my style. Though I admit to being happy that our frequently dissed D so effectively stopped the run. I was curious...am curious though to see what the Ravens fans are saying about the game.

[Losac]

I was curious...am curious though to see what the Ravens fans are saying about the game.
Basically, everyone under the sun knew that the Chiefs were going to run. The Colts knew it, and completely geared up to stop it. The Chiefs did no play action, and the passing game was pathetic. (I stopped counting how many balls the receivers dropped or Green threw straight into the ground). KC was one-dimensional and couldn't exploit the Colts' stacking the box. I'd say the result of the game was more due to the Chiefs' ineptitude (they didn't belong in the playoffs) than the Colts suddenly becoming a dominant run-stopping D. Teams used to do it all the time to us when we had no passing game. Let's see how that D handles a more well-balanced offense with a legit passing game.

[Pat McGroin]

Most of us are saying that we hope the Ravens rip the Colts balls off and stuff them down their f*****g throat.

Figuratively speaking, of course.

[Colts1]

Most of us are saying that we hope the Raven rip the Colts balls off and stuff them down their f*****g throat.

Figuratively speaking, of course.

Of course.

[Pat McGroin]

"Let's see how that D handles a more well-balanced offense with a legit passing game."

Let's also see how Manning handles our D and an EXTREMELY hostile crowd.

There's plenty of emotion to go around.....damn it's gonna be LOUD. :hammer:

[Heap86]

The Colts defense had a good day against the Chiefs. If they give the same effort in Baltimore, do you think the Ravens O has an answer?


Sure, we pass better than run. The Colts just loaded the box up against LJ.

Your guys will not be able to do that Saturday night. Our O-line has been magnificent at pass blocking, your Defense will have to respect both the pass and the run. This could make Jamal or Mike Anderson very dangerous.

Our Gameplan with be to hold on to the ball as long as possible to keep your O off the field while resting our Defense.

I think at first our Defensive Game plan may be very ordinary, expect our D to run out of the 3-4 alot. If we get a decent lead, Our rushers will pin thier ears back and go right after Peyton.

This time our Offense needs to score points, we held your Offense to 3 points until half-time last year. We beat ourselves last year with turnovers.

I expect this game to be much different. McNair has lit up Defenses after extended rest periods, after the bye week and after both of his injuries.

M&T will be insane Saturday Evening, I hope for a very entertaining, Lopsided victory for the Ravens :thumbup:

[Greg]

Ravens shut down every RB they face.

[F Angelos]

It's a fascinating match-up because our offense is completely different from the Chiefs. We lead the league in time of possession in spite of Jamal's down year. We do it because Steve complete's 70% of his passes to 7 different recievers a game (since Fassel was fired). Then once we get the lead Jamal gets his 25 carries and 80 yds and the D drops the hammer. The key to this game is very simple:The Ravens will get a few turnover's and set-up the offense for easy scores. The Colts NEED to do the same. In the 13 games we've won we had 16 turnover's but our opponents had 34. In the 3 losses we had 7 turnovers the opp had 5. Look for the Colts to play Cover 2 and Cover 3 and make Jamal beat them. Even so, I like McNair to move the ball and the D to dominate. Bal 31 Ind 14.

[Jggjaron]

This game is easy for us to look at what we need to do is just get in manning the baby's face and he will make the mistakes that will lead to defense to the championship

[Holden McGroin]

Yeah, because its REAL HARD to shut down a guy with 13 carries on the day, not to mention no offensive support. One thing you Colt fans forget (or are just to blind to realize) is that the Chiefs ran 37 plays. Manning ran more plays by himself.

[Colts1]

It's a fascinating match-up because our offense is completely different from the Chiefs. We lead the league in time of possession in spite of Jamal's down year. We do it because Steve complete's 70% of his passes to 7 different recievers a game (since Fassel was fired). Then once we get the lead Jamal gets his 25 carries and 80 yds and the D drops the hammer. The key to this game is very simple:The Ravens will get a few turnover's and set-up the offense for easy scores. The Colts NEED to do the same. In the 13 games we've won we had 16 turnover's but our opponents had 34. In the 3 losses we had 7 turnovers the opp had 5. Look for the Colts to play Cover 2 and Cover 3 and make Jamal beat them. Even so, I like McNair to move the ball and the D to dominate. Bal 31 Ind 14.

A gracious post. I agree with much of what you wrote..except I think the score will be reversed. Colts 31 Ravens 14

[COLTSVOLS]

"Let's see how that D handles a more well-balanced offense with a legit passing game."

Let's also see how Manning handles our D and an EXTREMELY hostile crowd.

There's plenty of emotion to go around.....damn it's gonna be LOUD. :hammer:

I think he handled them fine last year, and yes I know Boller was the quarterback but I honestly don't think McNair is that much better.

[festivus]

I think he handled them fine last year, and yes I know Boller was the quarterback but I honestly don't think McNair is that much better.

:rolleyes:

Now you're making it easy. Watch football much?

Have a good stay in Baltimore.

[Losac]

I think he handled them fine last year, and yes I know Boller was the quarterback but I honestly don't think McNair is that much better.

Wow. Just......wow.

[PARavensJeff]

I think he handled them fine last year, and yes I know Boller was the quarterback but I honestly don't think McNair is that much better.

This is not the same Ravens team as last year, as you & the other Imposter fans will see Saturday. You think McNair isn't that much better, he has the expierience & if he goes down, it's not the same old Boller anymore. McNair has taught the kid well & he is a very capable player now. Also, the toughest place to play in the NFL since 2000 is Baltimore, & our crowd is the loudest in the NFL. Saturday will be the loudest ever, you will have never seen anything like it before.

Bring it on, we will be moving on & you will be going back to that backwater town you hail from.

[Heap86]

I think he handled them fine last year, and yes I know Boller was the quarterback but I honestly don't think McNair is that much better.

That was a downright ignorant post!!

I love the fact that none of you guys think that we have a chance of beating the Colts, that fact is pretty evident by reading your board.

You guys are pretty confident for no reason. You guys just beat a team that didn't belong in the Playoffs in the first place, not to mention that you Colts haven't won a road game in over a month.

Answer me this question, why do the Ravens have no chance of beating the Colts in our own house when Houston, Tennessee, Dallas and Jacksonville didn't have much trouble doing it in thiers?

And BTW, This years Defense is light years ahead of last years.

[skaybaltimore]

It seems to me after reading several Colts fans posts that they subconsciously KNOW that Payton Manning is the biggest post season choke artist this side of Fran Tarkenton. They'll never ever admit it, but they KNOW he's disappointed them SO MANY TIMES, they can't help but be afraid he's going to do it again.

Likewise, this season they KNOW Indy has not dominated ANYBODY like they did last year. They know their team is coming to the biggest, most emotional house of reigning down pain they could imagine, but they can't face that reality, so they puff up all this bravado, which will pop like a cheap balloon within the first quarter of Saturday's game.

Of late, they are big on pointing to their most recent victory over KC. Well, let's take a closer look: for as many passes as Manning has thrown to Harrison, look how much those two weren't even on the same page against KC. It's a classic example of Manning choking. Yet Again.

And speaking of KC -- there's nothing to even say -- they flat out STUNK. I don't see how Herm Edwards could even have a job after that debacle. Rarely will I ever say a team LOST a game, rather than give credit for the team that won. But please...Indy did not win that game nearly as much as KC flat out LOST it. And yet, all the Indy fans want to point to what a great job their team did against KC. Folks...The Little Sisters of the Poor field hockey team could have beaten KC.

:rolling:

I can hardly wait to see all the posts from the Indy fans on their boards after we send their team packing back to Indy SANS the Mayflower vans.

GO RAVENS!!! (41-0 when +2 in turnovers)

[PurpleRulz]

The Colts had A GOOD GAME against LJ for sure, but that is all the Colts defense had to stop.

The Colts can focus on Jamal all they want, because we don't have Boller as our starting QB anymore.

It is great that everyone, including the Colts fans/players, are forgetting about McNair, Clayton, Heap, Mason, Demetrius Williams, and Ovie Mughelli. To add, we do have two RBs we can run at the Colts and not just one.

The Chiefs are a one trick pony, but not the Ravens.

This bye week works to our advantage, because I think many have forgotten how good McNair and our passing game has been.

[whattimeisit]

"This bye week works to our advantage, because I think many have forgotten how good McNair and our passing game has been."

Not to mention, look at the Colts injury report vs the Ravens injury report. Though I expect most of those guys to play, they are clearly feeling the effects of playing last week.

[ChrisQ]

The Ravens talk as if they are a run-first team, but it always seems to me that we come out dinking and dunking with short passes to move the ball, and then go to the run after the linebackers soften up and start keying on the receivers. Then once we get a good run or two, we switch to play action and look for intermediate passes.

Running seems to be an afterthought here anymore (fine by me).

Last week it was 7 or 8 passes to Mason right away before they went to the run.

[highwater]

I was impressed at how the Colts D played against the Chiefs, but it was also one of those games in which I didn't know if it was a case of the Colts D playing well, or the Chiefs O playing that badly. Yes, the Colts did play well on defense, but the Chiefs looked dreadful and had a bad game plan. The Ravens offense should be much more of a challenge.

And add in the fact that unlike the Chiefs game, this will not be played in the comfy dome in Indy. The Colts have played much better at home than on the road this season, especially in the second half of the year. The home field advantage could be huge, especially if the Ravens take an early lead.

[Colts1]

It seems to me after reading several Colts fans posts that they subconsciously KNOW that Payton Manning is the biggest post season choke artist this side of Fran Tarkenton. They'll never ever admit it, but they KNOW he's disappointed them SO MANY TIMES, they can't help but be afraid he's going to do it again.

Likewise, this season they KNOW Indy has not dominated ANYBODY like they did last year. They know their team is coming to the biggest, most emotional house of reigning down pain they could imagine, but they can't face that reality, so they puff up all this bravado, which will pop like a cheap balloon within the first quarter of Saturday's game.

Of late, they are big on pointing to their most recent victory over KC. Well, let's take a closer look: for as many passes as Manning has thrown to Harrison, look how much those two weren't even on the same page against KC. It's a classic example of Manning choking. Yet Again.

And speaking of KC -- there's nothing to even say -- they flat out STUNK. I don't see how Herm Edwards could even have a job after that debacle. Rarely will I ever say a team LOST a game, rather than give credit for the team that won. But please...Indy did not win that game nearly as much as KC flat out LOST it. And yet, all the Indy fans want to point to what a great job their team did against KC. Folks...The Little Sisters of the Poor field hockey team could have beaten KC.

:rolling:

I can hardly wait to see all the posts from the Indy fans on their boards after we send their team packing back to Indy SANS the Mayflower vans.

GO RAVENS!!! (41-0 when +2 in turnovers)

You guys have a good team and some pro-bowlers on defense. But don't forget those pro-bowlers have to go against the Colts pro-bowlers.

The way you talk the Colts should just not make the trip to Baltimore. Well that is just smack talk. Baltimore is, as some here say, is home for us too :) and we have a perfect record at home. That's a joke for those of you that are hyperventilating right now. :happy:

As for KC, they were the #6 vs #3...so you would expect the Colts to handle them...but everyone just made us sick with all the pre-game hype and lack of respect with regard to LJ running all over our D. Let's see Steevie throw a couple picks and see if the birds can recover from it....not likely.

You had a good season...you should be proud of your team. I'm sorry it has to end for you this week, but I'm afraid that with all the smack I read on your forum you are underestimating a very good COLTS team.

[festivus]

You had a good season...you should be proud of your team. I'm sorry it has to end for you this week, but I'm afraid that with all the smack I read on your forum you are underestimating a very good COLTS team.
I cannot understand why none of the Indy fans who have been posting here - or even on their own boards, as far as I've observed so far - even *acknowledge* that their team has struggled against bad teams on the road for the last month and a half.

Why do they not seem to understand that the Baltimore Ravens are better than the Texans, Jaguars, and Titans, who have *all* beaten the Colts since the Colts' last road victory, on November 5?

I'm not saying it will be a cakewalk for the Ravens, surely the Colts have some weapons, but the Ravens are 7-1 at home this year and well rested coming off their bye. The Colts beat the Chiefs last week, forcing a run-only team to try to pass, which they couldn't do. Do they not understand we crushed the Chiefs in KC?

Their overconfidence baffles me. Perhaps the clear-thinking ones are electing not to post.

:confused:

[Losac]

I agree, festivus. I don't predict a blowout, but these Colts fans seem to ignore all of the bad aspects of their team, as well as Peyton Manning's own playoff history and think they'll walk right into the lion's den and get a win.

Seeing the way some of their fans are makes me kind of sorry I rooted for them in the playoffs last year against the Steelers.

[Colts1]

I cannot understand why none of the Indy fans who have been posting here - or even on their own boards, as far as I've observed so far - even *acknowledge* that their team has struggled against bad teams on the road for the last month and a half.

Why do they not seem to understand that the Baltimore Ravens are better than the Texans, Jaguars, and Titans, who have *all* beaten the Colts since the Colts' last road victory, on November 5?

I'm not saying it will be a cakewalk for the Ravens, surely the Colts have some weapons, but the Ravens are 7-1 at home this year and well rested coming off their bye. The Colts beat the Chiefs last week, forcing a run-only team to try to pass, which they couldn't do. Do they not understand we crushed the Chiefs in KC?

Their overconfidence baffles me. Perhaps the clear-thinking ones are electing not to post.

:confused:

Well I certainly have no trouble acknowledging the road losses. Truthfully many Colts fans were mystified by those losses. However, except for the Jacksonville game we were in every one of those losses that could have been or were decided by one play.

The Colts had a long stretch where we had a lot of injuries on both sides of the ball. Shoot we even lost Proehl who was brought in to replace Stokely in the slot. But we now have nearly all our people back.

So, is being on the road a concern...sure...but we still like our chances.

This Ravens team is a very good matchup for the Colts. We are thinking the winner of this game gets to the SB.

[skaybaltimore]

The thing that I noticed very clearly in the Colts vs Bengals game was the injury to Harrison's finger AND wrist. I would imagine that's not something you can feel too good about, given the obvious discomfort it was causing him, and the fact that those sorts of injuries just don't heal in a couple of weeks. There's no way it can't negatively impact Harrison's ability to grab a bullet tossed by Manning. (And that doesn't even get into Addai's ankle injury.)

GO RAVENS!!! (41-0 when +2 in turnovers)

[ravenwoman]

Anyone who doesn't think Steve McNair (a future Hall of Fame) quarterback isn't much better than Kyle Boller is really showing his ignorance regarding the NFL.

[corvuscorax]

Let's see Steevie throw a couple picks and see if the birds can recover from it....not likely.
What's more unlikely is Mr. McNair throwing a couple of picks in the first place, unlike P(ee my pants in the playoffs) Manning, who threw 3 picks against KC, who most agree didn't even belong in the postseason.


You had a good season...you should be proud of your team. I'm sorry it has to end for you this week, but I'm afraid that with all the smack I read on your forum you are underestimating a very good COLTS team.
The smack-talk runneth over, no doubt about that. And maybe us fans are underestimating Indy.

BUT, our fans control nothing but the 12th man factor. Our RAVENS Coaches will call the shots and our RAVENS Players will do the deeds on the field, and I don't see them underestimating Indy, not for a second!

Be prepared to cry in your beer, Indy1!