View Full Version : 3rd string QB spot
Sports Steve
08-31-2006, 07:30 AM
I feel the Ravens should keep Olsen and drop St. Pierre. The future will be better keeping Olsen rather then St. Pierre. The couple of years with Olsen to develop may pay off for the Ravens in the future. What do other site members think ?
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highwater
08-31-2006, 07:41 AM
I think that I don't understand the continuing fascination with Drew Olsen. From most accounts, he hasn't looked very good in practice. I'd stick with St. Pierre and maybe stash Olsen on the PS. No one drafted him after all, so I doubt teams will be lining up to take him from us.
GreenWave52
08-31-2006, 08:17 AM
I think we should stash Olson on the PS (he was undrafted, so he might not end up a Brown). I also think we should cut St. Pierre and only carry 2 QBs. We aren't going to win any games with BSP at QB and the odds of the third QB ever seeing PT is rare.
Brandon
08-31-2006, 08:43 AM
I don't think your take makes sense. What makes you think St. Pierre isn't a better option than Olson? I don't believe Drew Olson is a future starting QB in the NFL so there really is no reason to "develop" him. Especially when St. Pierre has already become familiar with the RAVENS system, and has been running the scout team for a year.
It's obvious the RAVENS see a lot more upside in St. Pierre than they do Olson, otherwise they would have been playing him more in the preseason. He didn't look that great in practice the times I saw him, and if he isn't playing well in practice they aren't going to be confident with him on the field.
Mista T
08-31-2006, 09:58 AM
St. Pierre is a better option today. From watching Olsen in the scrimmage, he didn't seem to have as good an arm as St. Pierre, plus he's a rookie. The risk of losing him off the taxi squad is small. And, if he is lost, it should not be that big of a deal.
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M-P-M
08-31-2006, 10:33 AM
According to Aaron's article it looks like St. Pierre is going to be the 3rd QB.
The team will only keep three quarterbacks on the active roster - Steve McNair, Kyle Boller and Brian St. Pierre - meaning rookie Drew Olson is hoping for a spot on the practice squad.
http://www.carrollcountytimes.com/articles/2006/08/31/sports/sports3-16.txt
highwater
08-31-2006, 12:32 PM
and the odds of the third QB ever seeing PT is rare.
Not if our OL keeps playing like it did like week. By the way, who would be our emergency QB if we didn't carry St. Pierre or Olsen?
AZRAVEN
08-31-2006, 12:36 PM
The little bit I saw of BSP, I wasn't impressed. Do we actually have to carry three QB's? I shudder at the prospect of having to see him in a game that counts. I say carry two QB's and use the extra spot for an additional OL guy. If the need arises for another QB due to injury, we could pick up a retread for a few games. Let Boller do the scout team duty, at least he won't just be standing on the sidelines and it might be a learning experience for him.
GreenWave52
08-31-2006, 12:45 PM
Not if our OL keeps playing like it did like week. By the way, who would be our emergency QB if we didn't carry St. Pierre or Olsen?
Last year it would have been Randy Hymes, but without him around I'm not sure. I know Ed Reed played some QB in training camp, but I don't know if we have anyone else with High School or College experience.
Here's the deal. Yes, cutting St. Pierre and Olsen opens a spot up on the 53, but not on gameday. Right now we dress 45 on game day, 8 are inactive. Of those 45, 44 are normal and 1 is a special category, emergency QB. If he comes into the game before the 4th quarter neither the 1st or 2nd QB can re-enter the game.
So if we don't carry a 3rd QB we save a roster spot but gain NOTHING on game day because we can only dress 44. If we designate anybody else as the 3rd QB and dress them as the 45th they can only play QB and if they enter before the 4th quarter neither Boller or McNair could come back into the game.
So what do you really gain by this carrying of 2 QBs? A 9th guy inactive every week?
Art-Florida
08-31-2006, 01:50 PM
Here's the deal. Yes, cutting St. Pierre and Olsen opens a spot up on the 53, but not on gameday. Right now we dress 45 on game day, 8 are inactive. Of those 45, 44 are normal and 1 is a special category, emergency QB. If he comes into the game before the 4th quarter neither the 1st or 2nd QB can re-enter the game.
So if we don't carry a 3rd QB we save a roster spot but gain NOTHING on game day because we can only dress 44. If we designate anybody else as the 3rd QB and dress them as the 45th they can only play QB and if they enter before the 4th quarter neither Boller or McNair could come back into the game.
So what do you really gain by this carrying of 2 QBs? A 9th guy inactive every week?
I have never understood the login in this. If you're paying 53 guys every week, then all of them ought to be eligible to play.
What if that 3rd person gets hurt? Who is allowed to play quarterback then? Stupid regulation.
AZRAVEN
08-31-2006, 03:30 PM
To me what we gain is another body on the OL, another option. If they can't be active for a game oh well, they are still on the roster and can used in another game. If they aren't on the roster at all because we have a dead weight QB there then it cuts our OL options by one.
I agree Art, it's a stupid regulation.
GreenWave52
08-31-2006, 04:04 PM
So what do you really gain by this carrying of 2 QBs? A 9th guy inactive every week?
We gain someone who could help us, if not this year maybe next season; instead of someone like BSP who, quite frankly, is nothing more than a place holder. I would rather keep Ross, Martin, Daniels, or TLT. They might turn into decent players for us, which is more than BSP will ever do.
RavenFanatic2k6
08-31-2006, 04:07 PM
The thing is, it really doesn't matter who the #3 is. Olson or St. Pierre, if we get down to either of them starting, the season is effectively done IMO.
GreenWave52
08-31-2006, 04:09 PM
The thing is, it really doesn't matter who the #3 is. Olson or St. Pierre, if we get down to either of them starting, the season is effectively done IMO.
Which is exactly why we shouldn't carry a 3rd QB at all.
RavenFanatic2k6
08-31-2006, 09:32 PM
Olson has looked alot better tonight than St. Pierre has at any time this PS, IMO.
StingerNLG
08-31-2006, 11:43 PM
Which is exactly why we shouldn't carry a 3rd QB at all.
But then what do you do if both McNair and Boller go down. Remember last year when we had to see Kordell Stewart get PT? With this offensive line you almost want to carry BOTH Olson and St. Pierre.
I wish you could say that and chuckle.
PurpleRulz
09-01-2006, 05:09 AM
I say cut both of those QBs and pick a QB off the waiver wire.
RavenScallywag
09-01-2006, 07:08 AM
St. Pierre won't get cut until we can find the guy on the waiver wire...
Trust me, we won't gamle on going with just two QBs AT ANY TIME. If we find a guy on the waiver wire, we'll wait until we get him here, then cut St. Pierre.