View Full Version : The Officials, The Stealers, The Super Bowl...
Mr.Boh
02-01-2009, 07:51 PM
Same old shite as last time they were there. Whoever sells the most jerseys I guess.
camdenyard
02-01-2009, 07:59 PM
The refs didn't throw a 100-yd pick six.
The refs didn't run over a FG holder, or grasp a facemask, or do other STUPID things.
festivus
02-01-2009, 08:03 PM
#1 most hated Steeler - Heinz Ward
#2 and rising fast - Mitch Berger
Mr.Boh
02-01-2009, 08:09 PM
The refs didn't throw a 100-yd pick six.
The refs didn't run over a FG holder, or grasp a facemask, or do other STUPID things.
Your right, and dont get me wrong, arizona is losing this game for themselves. But youd think Ben was the refs daughter out there.
Any time a coach wins two challenges, something is wrong.
HoustonRaven
02-01-2009, 08:14 PM
Any time a coach wins two challenges, something is wrong.
No. They were good challenges.
I see nothing in this game that suggest the Refs are doing a bad job.
What I do see is a team in red crapping all over themselves.
festivus
02-01-2009, 08:14 PM
The refs didn't throw a 100-yd pick six.
The refs didn't run over a FG holder, or grasp a facemask, or do other STUPID things.
All that may be true but these ticky tack flags are bullSHIT.
RavenScallywag
02-01-2009, 09:10 PM
you have to be shitting me...that "fumble" looked like an incomplete to me, and no review?
BS
Lee Van Cleef
02-01-2009, 09:12 PM
TBH, I thought that roughing the passer call was BS. And the facemask? Well there's only one type this year you have to grab and pull it to get penalised, all I saw was a grab. On those two calls I tend to agree with Rod Woodson. Aside from that eh. Arizona did too little too late.
TBH, I thought that roughing the passer call was BS.
:iagree:
Harrison should have been ejected from the game too.......
Mr.Boh
02-01-2009, 09:25 PM
Arizona lost the game, pure and simple.
But not to review that "fumble", the last play of the season?
Dont tell me the refs dont favor...
festivus
02-01-2009, 09:26 PM
Harrison should have been ejected from the game too.......
Yup. So much for the only Steeler I had a little grudging respect for.
Lee Van Cleef
02-01-2009, 09:28 PM
You had respect for Harrison? I thought he had the air of a collossal jerk all season long. It doesn't surprise me in the least that he was that classless.
RavenScallywag
02-01-2009, 09:31 PM
The only grudge I had against Harrison was "holding a grudge" for being cut by when he was a nobody on the Ravens.
He was flat out punching a guy while he was down. he should be flat out ashamed.
He was flat out punching a guy while he was down. he should be flat out FINED.
fixed.
RavenScallywag
02-01-2009, 09:34 PM
has there ever been fines given after a SB or playoff game? Would like to see if they do it...
has there ever been fines given after a SB or playoff game? Would like to see if they do it...
He most definitely earned it!!! He's a straight-up thug for pulling that shit....
RavensInBrazil
02-01-2009, 09:51 PM
About that flag on Wilson when he ran over the holder...I mean I'll admit everything goes by pretty fast, but what the hell was he supposed to do, from what I saw it was all inertia
This might be my purple glasses, but I have to say the Steelers get at least a few ticky-tacky flags in their favour every bloody game, especially in the SB
RavenScallywag
02-01-2009, 10:19 PM
The running over the holder was right on...he wasn't trying to avoid the hit, he knocked the guy down, then kept running off the field.
the roughing the QB penalty on Dansby, that was more intertia. Ben got the ball off right when Dansby was diving for Ben.
festivus
02-01-2009, 10:22 PM
You had respect for Harrison? I thought he had the air of a collossal jerk all season long. It doesn't surprise me in the least that he was that classless.
Hey, if being a colossal jerk is the worst thing about him, then you understand why I thought he was better than the rest of the team.
ravenjoe
02-01-2009, 10:44 PM
Arizona lost the game, pure and simple.
Slight correction, Big Ben won that game, as he has been doing all season!
Ravenator
02-01-2009, 10:53 PM
The refs didn't run over a FG holder
I am sorry, that penalty has to be reworked. Your not out there to protect the kicker and the Holder. Plus, if you look at the replay...its the defenders momentum that carries him into the holder. It's not like he went full speed and dropped a shoulder and bowled over him.
Jeremiah W
02-01-2009, 11:25 PM
Arizona lost the game, pure and simple.
But not to review that "fumble", the last play of the season?
Dont tell me the refs dont favor...
They did not even show the replay in the post game wrap up. Last play of the Sb made by the D, you would think they show it as many times as the TD. It was a pass, not a fumble. It was not one call thad in AZ, but the 4th quarter when they finally called some o f the holding I was shocked. They tackled Dockett on every play even when he made a sack.
Big Bird
02-01-2009, 11:41 PM
Cards screwed up too much. Refs did OK except for the incomplete ruled a fumble with under 30 secs remaining. The pic for a 100 yd TD at the end of the half told the story. Otherwise the result would have been different.
I could be a nice guy and congratulate the Stillers. BUT I hate their guts!!! So I wont.
deuce
02-02-2009, 08:04 AM
No question Harrison is on roids. F that guy and the rest of the Stealers.
ravenjoe
02-02-2009, 09:19 AM
We may all loathe the Steelers and their fan base, but the reality is that the Ravens are going to have to find a way to contain Big Ben, or else the Steelers are going to continue to rub the Ravens nose in it for Years to come!! Given our free agent situation, I'm worried about what next year brings. The Steelers are the envy of the NFL right now, and I don't see anything that is going to change that for the time being!
Ravenswarrior19
02-02-2009, 10:19 AM
Lamar Woodley block in the back on the Harrison return. (-7pts)
Harrison should have been ejected.
No review of the last play? Later Peirrera said the booth offical reviewed it, but the head ref did not. I guess the last play of the Superbowl is a good time to start making up your own rules.
I hate the running into the holder call, but I guess it was a call you have to make.
Holding calls in the NFL have become a joke. Maybe a new emphasis like the 5 yard chuck rule is in order.
Yes, I'm bitter.
Credit to Ben, Santonio-- hell of a final drive, hell of a TD.
Ravenator
02-02-2009, 10:53 AM
Does anyone think that holding should be changed to a five yard penalty against the Offense. Just wondering. I am fine with it being 10 yards. It just seems that it kills drives.
Does anyone think that holding should be changed to a five yard penalty against the Offense. Just wondering. I am fine with it being 10 yards. It just seems that it kills drives.
I'd love to see that. It is definitely a momentum killer....
RAVENOUS52
02-02-2009, 12:00 PM
Slight correction, Big Ben won that game, as he has been doing all season!
+1 (the first and probably last +1 I'll give out this year.):thumbup:
Burger Bitch is a stud. He makes game winning drives look easy.
I hate saying this, but I hope Flacco develops his footwork, awareness and strength in the pocket.
camdenyard
02-02-2009, 12:19 PM
I hate saying this, but I hope Flacco develops his footwork, awareness and strength in the pocket.
You hate saying that?
Why?
pyite32
02-02-2009, 12:21 PM
i just hope Flacco doesn't suck for 58 minutes every game like worthlessberger does.
UKRavenStockers
02-02-2009, 12:47 PM
No review of the last play? Later Peirrera said the booth offical reviewed it, but the head ref did not. I guess the last play of the Superbowl is a good time to start making up your own rules.
I hate the running into the holder call, but I guess it was a call you have to make.
With regards to the review of the last play, the ruling/procedure wasn't made up or improvised on the fly that's how it works, the replay official looks at every play inside 2mins and determines whether the play needs to be reviewed. The issue is how on earth he determines that that didn't need to send that down for the on field official to review the play. You'll see far less contentious decisions in far less meaningful situations sent down for review than that. It's utterly farcical for that play not to be reviewed, whether the replay official thought it was probably right or not.
As for the running into the holder call. Wilson was dumb, you can't put such a situation into the ref's hands. However, does anyone either a) seen roughing the holder called before? Or b) know whether holders are even afforded similar protection to kickers and punters? I wasn't aware that they were. Mitch Berger should win an Oscar for his back flip to draw the flag too.
RAVENOUS52
02-02-2009, 01:49 PM
You hate saying that?
Why?
Because Big Jen is a... Squeeler:ralph: , you rocket surgeon!!
DUH!:rolling:
As for the running into the holder call. Wilson was dumb, you can't put such a situation into the ref's hands. However, does anyone either a) seen roughing the holder called before? Or b) know whether holders are even afforded similar protection to kickers and punters? I wasn't aware that they were. Mitch Berger should win an Oscar for his back flip to draw the flag too.
I've seen it called a couple of times but not within the past few years. To me it always seems to happen when a defender is either going for the block and is tripped and his momentum takes him into the holder.
jaydee414
02-02-2009, 02:05 PM
typical game..the refs made some & missed some...i think we all have our antennae up a bit higher when pittsburg is involved. btw, i don't think that the steeler db who was "blocking" warner on harrisons int return has let go of warners shirt yet. watch the replay...and no mention by the announcers.
and as long as i'm on a roll here, when did the rule about "crawling, helping or pushing" the runner cease being a penalty? i have no issue with other offensive players piling into a scrum to move the whole pile, but on the pitt td that was overturned, the pitt center literally grabbed ben in a bear hug and carried him to the goal line. again, no mention.
RavensInBrazil
02-02-2009, 02:10 PM
Lamar Woodley block in the back on the Harrison return. (-7pts)
That is what I most appalled at, I even forgot to mention it last night. They showed that replay over and over (and over) and every time I would see the BLATANT block in the back, right there for everyone to see. I don't think it was extremely clear whether the refs were favouring the Squealers or not, but to not call that penalty was a joke, everyone could see it
Ravenswarrior19
02-02-2009, 02:55 PM
With regards to the review of the last play, the ruling/procedure wasn't made up or improvised on the fly that's how it works, the replay official looks at every play inside 2mins and determines whether the play needs to be reviewed. The issue is how on earth he determines that that didn't need to send that down for the on field official to review the play. You'll see far less contentious decisions in far less meaningful situations sent down for review than that. It's utterly farcical for that play not to be reviewed, whether the replay official thought it was probably right or not.
Right, and that's what I was getting at (albeit with a lot of anger in the mix).
Pereira's quote:
“The replay assistant in the replay booth saw it was clearly a fumble. The ball got knocked loose and was rolling in his hand before it started forward. He has to have total control.”
Sounds to me like the replay assistant is making the final ruling on the call. His objective is to supposed to be to determine if a call close enough to warrant review, not to decide if a call was ultimately correct. I don't think the final play of the Superbowl is the time to push the limits of replay assistant authority.
sdeclue
02-03-2009, 11:27 AM
I know a lot of people were upset with some of the officiating in the Super Bowl, and I happen to think a lot of it is legitimate. Here's my take on the officiating, among other things:
http://www.examiner.com/x-1089-Baltimore-Sports-Examiner~y2009m2d3-Super-Bowl-thoughts
Sirdowski
02-04-2009, 10:58 PM
To add to the Harisson bashing, the guy is a straight up thug... At the start of the season he had charges against him for Beating his girlfriend.(what became of them im not sure) But If he can't maintain enough self control not to beat a woman lord knows he wont be able to surpress his primal aggression not to pound on the cardinals 180 lb Aaron Francisco. It's just pathetic that him doing that impressed the squeeler fans I know.:thumbdown: classes in every sense of the word.