Lions Cut Charles Rogers. We Should...

[PurpleRulz]

..definitelly get this guy. I would take Charles Rogers as a 5th WR over Moore any day, any hour. Hopefully, our Kokinis is on this. Please, let this happen.


Also, Fred Matua, G/C who was drafted from USC this year, was waived. This is another signing that I would make.

[RavenFanatic2k6]

I would look at him but I am betting his character issues will prevent us from going after him, also I am certain we wouldn't be the only team after him. Half the league is probably trying to contact him now.

Just shows how stupid the Lions FO is. I would have cut Mike Williams before Rogers, Rogers has the skill set to be an elite WR, Williams will always be limited by his speed, or lack thereof.

[Sports Steve]

I would not pick him up. The Ravens enough receivers. We need to keep a eye out for a OL player to pick up.

:jester: :jester:

[52decleetzu]

First of all we have a 5th wr,his name is Clarence Moore.Scond of all half the league can have him he has done NOTHING but get injured and be a major pain in the a** to the Lions orginization.Third the cap hit to get rid of Williams would be ridiculous and this is his second year in the league,not fourth like Rogers.Do you reelly think they would cut the 5th pick in the draft from last year??? Get real people,there is a reason why this fool got cut.

[Brandon]

No thanks! I would stick with what we have.

[RavenFanatic2k6]

Actually he was the 10th pick and yes, the Lions were considering cutting him. I just read Marinelli said that just because he didn't cut him didn't mean he would play him. Thank god those rumors of us trading up to pick Williams didn't come true. Drafting that bum would have been horrible.

[Brandon]

Mike Williams was the 10th pick. Wasn't Charles Rogers the #2 or #3 pick?

[52decleetzu]

Ok the 10th whatever,he got a huge signing bonus and he has had 1YEAR in the NFL,do you really think they are going to give up on him???Makes absolutely no sense.

[PurpleRulz]

First of all we have a 5th wr,his name is Clarence Moore.Scond of all half the league can have him he has done NOTHING but get injured and be a major pain in the a** to the Lions orginization.Third the cap hit to get rid of Williams would be ridiculous and this is his second year in the league,not fourth like Rogers.Do you reelly think they would cut the 5th pick in the draft from last year??? Get real people,there is a reason why this fool got cut.


1. This post makes no sense. :insane:

2. Mike Williams was taken with the 10th overall selection and not the 5th overall.

3. Rogers failed in Detroit, but a change is what he may need. He does have good tools and should be given another chance.

4. I'd take Charles Rogers over Clarence Moore any second of any day. You can have a WR that lets a TD pass fall right in front of his face and has no heart.

5. We did have Fred Matua in for a predraft visit. Maybe, we will look to him to replace Rimpf.

[RavenFanatic2k6]

Ok the 10th whatever,he got a huge signing bonus and he has had 1YEAR in the NFL,do you really think they are going to give up on him???Makes absolutely no sense.

I didn't really expect them to cut Williams, I know it's financially close to impossible. I'm just thinking out loud.

[PurpleRulz]

I didn't really expect them to cut Williams, I know it's financially close to impossible. I'm just thinking out loud.

Cutting Mike Williams was a real possibility for the Lions. I would NOT touch him. If a team invests that kind of money and take him as high as they did, yet they are even thinking of cutting him, then I would not want that player.

[52decleetzu]

I guess you are one of those..."big name player got released.....lets go sign him!!!!....he was a top 3 pick!!!!"

[PurpleRulz]

I guess you are one of those..."big name player got released.....lets go sign him!!!!....he was a top 3 pick!!!!"


I guess you are one of those stick-with-a-WR-that-can't-catch-and-has-no-balls-because-he-is-6'6-tall type person. Whatever floats your boat.

[Brandon]

Mike Williams wasn't even released. How did we go from Charles Rogers to Mike Williams?

I wouldn't want Charlie Rogers on my football team at all. And yes, that goes for OVER Clarence Moore. Charles Rogers has already admitted to smoking pot, has been on IR for two seasons, and was lazy in practice.

No thanks

[GreenWave52]

Hey guys lets keep this thread civil.

I would take a look at Rogers, but I can tell you now he won't be coming here. There are a lot of teams worse off at WR that will make a play for him first.

I am interested in the OG, Matua from USC. I'm curious as to why he was waived. Still, he could be worth another look.

[52decleetzu]

Exactly Brandon.And at least Moore has shown that he can make plays in the red zone,an area where the Ravens are absolutely horrible.Rogers has shown that he can be effective getting hurt,suspended,and not being worthy of any pick in the draft much less the 2nd.

[Greg]

Let's not start attacking the poster.


I guess you are one of those..."big name player got released.....lets go sign him!!!!....he was a top 3 pick!!!!"
That attacks the poster.

A better way to disagree is to say "when big names or former high draft picks get released it is tempting to want to look at them but there is a reason the other team gave up on them."

I would bring in him for an interview, see where his head is. If he is more interested in smoking pot than playing football, pass. But I wouldn't rest my decision on how the Lions handled him and how he acted there, they haven't won shit for decades for a reason.

Just talk, you might need a psychologist involved to see if he really is interested in playing or not. Everybody will say "yes" but the right questions can give you the real answer.

[UKRavenStockers]

With regards the comment on picking up Matua, we've got our two young guys at G/C, no need to get one with less talent than the two we have.

[AZRAVEN]

I would imagine Rogers will not lack for suitors, I doubt strongly he would be willing to go anyplace as a 5th receiver. Remember, the ego is the last thing to go - he was a high draft pick and I'm sure he still sees himself in that light. As much as I despise Clarence Moore and doubt that he has any courage at all and would love to see him replaced I think we could probably do it cheaper and with fewer "side issues". Not to mention that our coaching staff appears to have a serious case of man love for Moore (not that there's anything wrong with that) and would probably cut McNair before Moore. :261695:

[B-more Ravor]

At this point, the Ravens probably have little shot at Rogers - even if they did want him - since he is subject to waivers. Now, is contract - since the team claiming him would have to assume the remainder of his deal - may be a reason that teams pass on him, so then he would be a FA and able to sign anywhere.

Still, my opinion is that the FO is happy with seeing if Darling, Williams or Moore can develop into a quality 3rd/future starter. Plus, if isn't claimed, I'm sure Rogers will get a better shot elsewhere to be higher on someone else's depth chart.

[52decleetzu]

Sorry Greg if you think I was attacking the poster,Im just tryting to make a point that we cant go out and sign every big name player that gets cut.Especially since we are(cant believe I am saying these words) deep at the position.

[B-more Ravor]

Not to mention that our coaching staff appears to have a serious case of man love for Moore (not that there's anything wrong with that) and would probably cut McNair before Moore.

Leaving the sarcasm aside, I don't see how you can claim "man love" by the coaching staff when they benched him and buried him on the depth chart last year after the 2nd game of the season?!?!?? IMO, that isn't showing him much love.

[towsonraven]

The guy is a cancer, a TO with less talent. We don't need that. Chemestry is going carry us this year.

[Raveninwoodlawn]

I guess you are one of those..."big name player got released.....lets go sign him!!!!....he was a top 3 pick!!!!"

Exactly.

You do realize that when Rogers isn't getting high he is on injured reserve.

Why the hell would you want a guy like that on your team? He is one step from getting suspended for a year and can't get on the field because he is so injury prone.

He has absolutely terrible character...why would you be willing to take that chance when we have the quality depth we have.

I'd rather have Moore being a coward than a malcontent that never sees the field and poisons the locker room.

Charles Rogers is a joke.

And so is Mike Williams.

BTW...that was not aimed at anybody in particular, but a general why would any team want this guy unless they are desperate

[Raveninwoodlawn]

Leaving the sarcasm aside, I don't see how you can claim "man love" by the coaching staff when they benched him and buried him on the depth chart last year after the 2nd game of the season?!?!?? IMO, that isn't showing him much love.

If some of the people on these boards had thier way we would have cut a lot of productive players a long time ago before they had a chance to grow into thier potential.

[edreedisgod20]

Charles Rogers: No, thank you.

Fred Matua: Maybe. Look into it.

[AZRAVEN]

IMO we showed him all the love he should need simply by the fact that he's still on the team. He hasn't done a damn thing to warrant all this belief in his "potential" The only thing he has going for him that I can see is he is 6'6" tall ~ big whoop, he has no courage and that can't be taught. All we heard last year was how hard he worked in the weight room and now he'd be able to take the hits ~ well how did that work out? It got his sissy butt benched in the second game. I see no reason to believe it will be different this year, and so all he amounts to is a wasted roster spot.
I'm all for giving players a chance to develop but there comes a time when you have to accept reality and move on. The basic flaw in his game is the same now as it was the day he came to the Ravens and I don't think it is correctable.

[52decleetzu]

The thing he has going for him is he can catch balls that no other player in the NFL can get to,and in the red zone that could be a great asset to this team.The fifth WR on ANY team is a role player at best,and if he can play the role of catching 4-6 TD's over the course of the year that roster spot is not being wasted.We have tough recievers to go over the middle in Heap,Clayton,Mason,and even DVD we dont need that in Moore.We all know how bad our redzone offense has been,and if having Moore keeps Stover on the sideline a few more times this year it can only help us.

[WxKevin]

Somebody will pick up Rogers. He was drafted way too high to not be given a second chance somewhere else. He is also coming out of the joke known as Matt Millen's Detroit Lions. I find it hard to find anything they do as the right thing.

[AZRAVEN]

Then why didn't he do it last year? Sure he might catch them providing there isn't a defender within six yards of him. I understand what you're saying I just don't see it. I realize these guys are role players, but IMO Moore's "role" is to predictible and every team we play will know how to defend it. Besides, now that we have McNair we shouldn't have to rely on jump balls in the end zone for scores.

[PurpleRulz]

Interesting that the Jax cut Randy Hymes. I guess Billick is not the only one that dislikes Hymes's work ethic.

[StingerNLG]

Being a former 1st round pick I'm sure at least at the very beginning he's going to try and hold out for something more than a #5 WR job too. It may be all he ends up with, but at least for the forseeable future he could bide his time until someone's #2 or #3 guy goes down on injury or something.

[PurpleRulz]

It is amazing that a WR that was considered to have Randy Moss-like talent (and some annointed Rogers the next Randy Moss), can fall from grace. He was an absolute beast in college.

It goes to show that incredible skills absent of intellect equals zilch!

[jonboy79]

With regards the comment on picking up Matua, we've got our two young guys at G/C, no need to get one with less talent than the two we have.


Did you knw that every single NFL team starts 1 center and two guards... Vincent is terrible, as is Flynn, and old, and MUle is old. All will need to be replaced by '08 at the lastest. Apparently 1 year is not enough to learn to play Oline for the ravens, so we better start thinking NOW. Brown, is likely to start before ten end of the season, with Chester next year. If Matua, could ride the pine for two years, he could succeed Mul;e maybe.

But teh question is, how bad does one have to play, to get cut from the worst offensive line in football, especially when you were a 4th rd pick, NTM that he was their ONLY drafted improvementover last year.... anyone know????

BTW it would be nice to have 4 guys with center potential... lots of versatility.