FA Possibilities Thread

[PurpleRulz]

While I don't expect us to be significantly involved in the FA market this offseason, it still wouldn't hurt to discuss some FA possibilities amongst us fans. We could also provide some info (scouting reports) on possible FAs.

We already talked about Eric Steinbach, but what about this guy (courtesy KFFL):

Chargers | Dielman could be set to leave
Wed, 17 Jan 2007 07:09:20 -0800

Kevin Acee, of the San Diego Union-Tribune, reports San Diego Chargers OG Kris Dielman could leave as a free agent this offseason. Contract talks between Dielman and the team broke off in November, and Dielman figures to receive many lucrative offers once he become a free agent in March.

[ExiledRaven]

this is a great place to check out and play around with:
http://www.footballsfuture.com/2007/nfl/freeagents.html

QB: all backupy
UFA:Garcia, Huard
RFA: schaub

RB: Old guys, or RFAs...
UFA: Ahman Green Chris Brown
RFA: Michael Turner

WR: #3 guys is about it
UFA: Drew Bennett, Kevin Curtis, Kelley Washington

TE: TE crop is good...but we don't need one, we've got 3 solid guys.
UFA: Eric Johnson, Daniel Graham, Jerramy Stevens

OL:
UFA: Steinbach, Mike Gandy, Todd Steussie
RFA: Max Starks

DL:
UFA: Freeney, Vonnie Holliday, Justin Smith

LB:
UFA: Lance Briggs, London Fletcher

DB:
UFA: Asante Samuel, Nate Clements, Deon Grant, Nick Harper




OK, looking down the list...not too many interesting things going on.

Steinbach jumps out as someone we could use long term that is a serious upgrade as well.

WRs it's a matter of Mason returning and/or draft. Probably won't sign one of those #3 WRs.

RBs, there just isn't anything, turner's not worth a 1st unless there is some negotiation, but even so, draft may prove better if you can get Lynch or a healthy Bush.

For defense, Briggs, AD, Samuel are going to go for top top dollar...doubt we grab someone on D through free agency.



At any rate, looking like Steinbach could be a real option. Gandy, if he can play RT, might be a way to replace Pashos if we have problems there.

[UKRavenStockers]

QB: Someone will take one last stab at Huard and Garcia for starting roles I reckon, especially with Brohm electing to go back introducing a cavernous gap between Quinn and Russel to the #3 QB whoever that turns out to be.

If someone gives up what Atlanta wants for Schaub they should be openly taunted and ridiculed.

TB: Brown and Green are split carry type guys. Can see the Jets or Giants giving up a bit to get Burner Turner potentially.

WR: Bennett and Curtis are above #3 type. Bennett could be a very good pickup for someone and Curtis will either go back to St Louis to succeed Bruce as the #2 to Holt or Martz will force Millen's hand to bring him to Detroit.

G: Steinbach is a real possibility and I've heard from a Bungle fan or two that he is not a priority guy to re-sign in Cincy apparently, definately someone to look into.

T: Pass on all of those other than solid backup types, I'll take Pashos and Terry as our tackles next year if Ogden does indeed retire.

CB: Samuel and Clements will attract big big big bucks. Will be interesting to see whether the Pats actually pay Samuel. They didn't pay Law but then he was getting on, Samuel is young and is really a very very good CB, reads plays well and has excellent closing speed. Clements is apparently the Redskins #1 off-season target so he'll be attracting silly money.

[ExiledRaven]

I guess i should have said they'd be #3ish for our team, but yes, Curtis and Bennett better than that.

Going to be an interesting year with some teams having lots to burn.

Briggs, AD, Samuel, Clements are going to get crazy offers from teams like the 49ers with tons of money to spare that need leaders on D

Redskins want clements? ....that's funny. Danny-boy's got to buy someone I guess.

[UKRavenStockers]

Redskins want clements? ....that's funny. Danny-boy's got to buy someone I guess.

Oh absolutely, wouldn't be an off-season without saDan spunking a bunch o' money on someone. :rolling:

[TTRaven]

What about a possible run at Freeney if we lose AD? He had a down year so he could probably be had for cheaper then everyone originally thought. Move Suggs back to LB and you have a great front 7. Maybe even better than what it was with AD.

[UKRavenStockers]

What about a possible run at Freeney if we lose AD? He had a down year so he could probably be had for cheaper then everyone originally thought. Move Suggs back to LB and you have a great front 7. Maybe even better than what it was with AD.

No way Colts let him free, even if they don't get a multi-year deal done they will franchise him.

[F Angelos]

this is a great place to check out and play around with:
http://www.footballsfuture.com/2007/nfl/freeagents.html

QB: all backupy
UFA:Garcia, Huard
RFA: schaub

RB: Old guys, or RFAs...
UFA: Ahman Green Chris Brown
RFA: Michael Turner

WR: #3 guys is about it
UFA: Drew Bennett, Kevin Curtis, Kelley Washington

TE: TE crop is good...but we don't need one, we've got 3 solid guys.
UFA: Eric Johnson, Daniel Graham, Jerramy Stevens

OL:
UFA: Steinbach, Mike Gandy, Todd Steussie
RFA: Max Starks

DL:
UFA: Freeney, Vonnie Holliday, Justin Smith

LB:
UFA: Lance Briggs, London Fletcher

DB:
UFA: Asante Samuel, Nate Clements, Deon Grant, Nick Harper




OK, looking down the list...not too many interesting things going on.

Steinbach jumps out as someone we could use long term that is a serious upgrade as well.

WRs it's a matter of Mason returning and/or draft. Probably won't sign one of those #3 WRs.

RBs, there just isn't anything, turner's not worth a 1st unless there is some negotiation, but even so, draft may prove better if you can get Lynch or a healthy Bush.

For defense, Briggs, AD, Samuel are going to go for top top dollar...doubt we grab someone on D through free agency.



At any rate, looking like Steinbach could be a real option. Gandy, if he can play RT, might be a way to replace Pashos if we have problems there.

Don't worry, the crop always get's better after the cap casualties and guys who get cut after the drafting of younger cheaper replacements.

[Ravens0587]

I want Michael "the Burner" Turner I don't care if he costs us a 1st.

He averaged 6.3 yards a carry this year

Jamal averaged 3.6 yards a carry

Turner=Height: 5-10, Weight: 237
Jamal=Height: 5-11 Weight: 245

[Sephy]

And he had 80 carries in a backup role. I like Turner, but lets not twist stats to prove a point.

[B-more Ravor]

Don't worry, the crop always get's better after the cap casualties and guys who get cut after the drafting of younger cheaper replacements.

With so many teams having tons of cap space, I think you'll be seeing far fewer guys cut for cap reasons. They may still be cut for lack of performance reasons, but most teams will not need to cut guys to create cap space.

[B-more Ravor]

I want Michael "the Burner" Turner I don't care if he costs us a 1st.

I don't see the Ravens making a play for Turner. Not only would it cost them their 1st round (at least), but they would also have to sign him to a sizeable contract as well.

Given how tight it already appears the cap will be, I'm not sure they could afford that kind of deal.

Assuming the Ravens trust their eye for talent - and they should - I would expect that they would draft a RB to replace Jamal. Think about it, if they use that 1st round pick to do so, their new RB will come a lot - a lot - cheaper over the next 5 years than if they traded the pick for Turner and then signing him to a long-term deal.

[Ravens0587]

And he had 80 carries in a backup role. I like Turner, but lets not twist stats to prove a point.

Ok Jamal had 314 carries to get 1132 yards.

Michael Turner only needed 80 carries to get 502 yards.

Jamal had 3 carries of 20+ yards
Turner had 7 carries of 20+ yards

Jamals longest carry was 52 yards
Michaels longest carry was 73

Jamal had 234 more carries. Don't you think thats more then enough carries to get more then 3 20+ yard runs?

[Fanman]

I think Michael Turner would be a nice fit here. I would give up a draft pick for him...not a 1st rounder, but I think they should look at this guy. He could come in and be the starter from day 1.

FM

[Ravens0587]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1n71b44JqM

[festivus]

FM, I don't think we'd get a choice. I believe he is an RFA so we would (depending on how SD treats him, but 99% certainly) be required by league rules to give up at least a 1st rounder.

[Fanman]

Thanks Festivus. If the choice at TB is what we have or giving up a 1st round pick for Turner...I give up the pick.

Look at it this way: We have a very late 1st round pick anyway. It is not likley that pick would come in and make a big impact from game 1 next year. Turner, on the other hand, I think could and would be a difference maker right away.

FM

[Mobtown]

I think we will see Turner in Giants blue next year. I also think that Jamal will be gone and that the Ravens will promote MA and draft a rookie RB to fill the empty slot.

[festivus]

I think we will see Turner in Giants blue next year. I also think that Jamal will be gone and that the Ravens will promote MA and draft a rookie RB to fill the empty slot.

You are implying Musa Smith will be gone, which I agree with 100%.

[Mobtown]

You are implying Musa Smith will be gone, which I agree with 100%.

He might be back (knowing how stubborn BB can be), but as I see it the Musa experiment is done. The guy simply cannot stay healthy.

[PurpleRulz]

He might be back (knowing how stubborn BB can be), but as I see it the Musa experiment is done. The guy simply cannot stay healthy.

The only thing that could save Musa is that when he is healthy, he has flashed very good potential. I would bring back Musa to compete with PJ Daniels for the 3rd string RB. No one is going to sign Musa for better than that.

I would not give up a first rounder for Michael Turner, and I doubt Ozzie would. Ozzie hated the experience of not having a first rounder in 2004, so I doubt he will go that route again.

For some reason, I get the feeling that MA could be a cap casualty as he did not get used much here. I also think the team will restructure Jamal and draft a young back in the first or second round. A Michael Bush/Jamal combo or a Kenny Irons/Jamal combo would be awesome.

[Fanman]

Jamal has GOT to go...period. If he is not the feature back he whines and he is simply not good enough to be the #1 TB anymore....what else do you need to see?

Jamal, not the O-Line is not the biggest weakness on the offense. We need a back like Willie Parker, Thomas Jones, L. Maroney...Michael Turner.

Nobody in the league has a big, slow back like Jamal as their #1 anymore.

FM

[ExiledRaven]

Nobody in the league has a big, slow back like Jamal as their #1 anymore.

yeah, he's definitely slowed down a lot this year. Old Jamal outran everything