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52decleetzu

07-20-2009, 09:38 PM

Looks like Christmas came early this year boys.....

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/07/20/roethlisberger-denies-civil-allegations-of-sexual-assault/

Roethlisberger denies civil allegations of sexual assault

Posted by Mike Florio on July 20, 2009 8:57 PM ET

NFL_roethlisberger2.jpgIn a complaint that reads like the rape allegations made several years ago against NBA star Kobe Bryant, Harrah's employee Andrea McNulty alleges sexual assault against Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger in a lawsuit filed last week in Washoe County, Nevada.

But lawyer David Cornwell strongly denied the allegations Monday night, in a statement released to PFT. "Ben has never sexually assaulted anyone; especially Andrea McNulty," Cornwell said.

In the civil suit, which Cornwell confirms was served on Roethlisberger over the weekend and a copy of which our own Gregg Rosenthal has obtained, McNulty alleges that Roethlisberger asked her to come to his hotel room to fix the television, and that he thereafter forced her to have sex with him.

Roethlisberger faces one civil count of assault, one civil count of sexual assault and battery, one civil count of false imprisonment, one civil count of false pretenses, one civil count of fraud, and one civil count of intentonal infliction of emtional distress.

Galen Sevinne

07-20-2009, 09:55 PM

Don't know how to respond to this story. Obviously I hate the Steelers...dislike Roethlisberger and would love to see him not be able to QB the stillers. On the other hand, this case sounds like B.S. and even if it isn't, its nearly impossible to prove any wrongdoing in cases such as this so I think I will ignore it.

Dade

07-20-2009, 09:56 PM

WOW! Don't know what to say. Hope it isn't true. As much as I hate him for being a Steeler, I wouldn't wish that on anyone.

baltimore_hokie

07-20-2009, 10:38 PM

can't wait to talk about this with stooler fans after all their accusations about ray ray.

bmorebirds_24

07-20-2009, 10:41 PM

Personally i don't see this as being true. He seems like a pretty good and stand up guy even though i don't like him much at all. But, if he did do throw his ass in the slammer, but if not then the girl should be thrown in for this BS story. This is not something to play with.

braven98

07-21-2009, 01:04 AM

we need to beat them with benny

ravenjoe

07-21-2009, 06:04 AM

...this case sounds like B.S. and even if it isn't, its nearly impossible to prove any wrongdoing in cases such as this so I think I will ignore it.
:iagree:

HoustonRaven

07-21-2009, 06:07 AM

grayplay

07-21-2009, 06:47 AM

This story is obviously bogus. She'd almost definitely gotten pregnant by Lil Ben. He's dumb as a brick, we've already seen he doesn't wear protection outside of football. I doubt he ever puts on a helmet, be it big or small.

Losac

07-21-2009, 07:13 AM

I wonder if he was drinking like a champion that night?

http://www.brendanloy.com/blog/images/bigben-champion.jpg

Ravens23

07-21-2009, 07:17 AM

I always knew he was a deviant scumbag...:hammer:

HoustonRaven

07-21-2009, 07:23 AM

One good thing will come from this.

Steeler fans will now know what its like to defend unfounded allegations against their top start.

deuce

07-21-2009, 07:56 AM

LOL at Ben Rapistburger.

FellsPointRaven

07-21-2009, 08:44 AM

Looks like Christmas came early this year boys.....

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/07/20/roethlisberger-denies-civil-allegations-of-sexual-assault/

Not just Christmas.

I like how his lawyer said Ben 'didn't rape anyone, ESPECIALLY McNulty', like he actually went out of his way NOT to rape her, and has tried harder to rape other chicks.

Oh well, it's a distraction if nothing else. And as he didn't fly face-first into the side of a car, I take it we won't be deemed 'insensitive' if we start laughing about it straight away.

HoustonRaven

07-21-2009, 09:24 AM

If there is evidence Ben can go to jail on this

"Roethlisberger faces one civil count of assault, one civil count of sexual assault and battery, one civil count of false imprisonment, one civil count of false pretenses, one civil count of fraud, and one civil count of intentonal infliction of emtional distress"

:grbac:

What part of "civil" are you having a hard time grasping?

Mr. Mojo Rizon

07-21-2009, 09:43 AM

Looks like Christmas came early this year boys.....

Look, if Roethlisberger did this he deserves to be punished. But who here really thinks he did? I say the odds are far worse than 50-50.

I think if this is proven to be a scam, the lil' bitch should serve time for trying to ruin lives, clog up the court system and for enabling scumbag lawyers moonlighting as extortionists.

And as for the Steelers and Ben, I want to beat them at their best because I don't feel like hearing their incestuous fans holding it over our heads that we can't beat them with Ben. "F" THAT!

And for the record, count me among those who actually like Roethlisberger (provided he didn't do this). He makes plays and if he was in purple, he'd have a statue outside of M&T one day.

effo5231

07-21-2009, 09:47 AM

:grbac:

What part of "civil" are you having a hard time grasping?

:roll:

I think we need to develop a reading comprehension test for posting.

psuasskicker

07-21-2009, 10:25 AM

Nothing but a money grab, gents.

As much I as I hate Shittsburgh, this one is pretty obvious to see through.

This is not a criminal allegation. The police never investigated this. Anytime this situation creeps up and the woman goes right for the civil suit, that should tell you something.

:word

I'll get interested when the police look to file criminal charges. Till then, it's a pretty blatant cash-grab.

Look, if Roethlisberger did this he deserves to be punished. But who here really thinks he did? I say the odds are far worse than 50-50.

I'd be happy to lay 5 to 1 that no criminal charges will be filed nor will the civil case go to trial. I'd be pretty surprised if there's even a settlement in this, though maybe just to get her to go away.

If I had to say actual odds, I'd probably go more along the lines of 2%...

- C -

Tspot-D-Ravenator

07-21-2009, 10:30 AM

Khaine

07-21-2009, 10:36 AM

:roll:

I think we need to develop a reading comprehension test for posting.

What? You want to shut the forums down? :jester:

As for this case, looks like crap, I loathe shittsburgh but all and all Ben seems a decent guy - look he can't help being drafted by a hybrid of hadies and a port-a-potty.

Beerracuda

07-21-2009, 11:30 AM

And as for the Steelers and Ben, I want to beat them at their best because I don't feel like hearing their incestuous fans holding it over our heads that we can't beat them with Ben. "F" THAT!

I understand what you're saying, but we HAVE beaten Benji, badly too I might add. Remember the combined scores of 58-7 a few years ago?

Even though they won all 3 of the games last season, one can always argue that they barely won in all 3 games, with the help of some very controversial plays, after coming off a 5-11 year, with a rookie QB and a rookie HC.

As for this case, it sounds pretty flimsy to me. Likely didn't happen the way she says it did. And if she's lying about the whole thing, there should be some provision in the law to prosecute someone like this.

Of course, I have a real problem with legalities involved in REAL rape cases anyway. For example, the victim's name is never published, nor should it be. However, the man's name is published, long before trial, long before he's ever convicted of the crime. As far as I'm concerned, those names should remain sealed until the person is CONVICTED. As it stands now, if the accused is found not guilty, he'll always have that stigma of "rapist" over his head, regardless of if he was acquitted or not.

sdeclue

07-21-2009, 11:42 AM

52decleetzu

07-21-2009, 11:59 AM

Nothing will come of this. She is just trying to take advantage of an athlete, as much as I'd like to see Big Ben go down.

http://www.examiner.com/x-1089-Baltimore-Sports-Examiner~y2009m7d21-Roethlisberger-named-as-defendant-in-sexaul-assault-suit

Lets hope you are wrong.

And not one mention of this case since last night on ESPN...wonder why??? I specifically watched Sportscenter last to see if it was mentioned and nothing.Haven't been around this morning but apparently nothing still.

Just another example of the media fawning over the Stealers and protecting them.Nothing new.

Its not even listed on the ESPN website in the football section...like it never happened.

Amazing.

Well...not really.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...oethlisberger/

Is ESPN trying to preserve its relationship with Roethlisberger?

Posted by Mike Florio on July 21, 2009 12:38 PM ET

As the current 600-pound elephant in the media room continues to be ESPN's ongoing decision not to mention the civil claim of sexual harassment against Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger, others are beginning to notice.

The current lead item on Deadspin focuses in part on ESPN's decision not to mention the case, but it's still not clear why. We've been trying to get an explanation directly from Bristol, but to no avail.

The obvious theory is that ESPN isn't paying attention to it because one of the many ESPN NFL reporters didn't report it.

But there might be something deeper going on.

As our pal Todd Wright of Sporting News Radio pointed out, ESPN possibly doesn't want to risk pissing Ben off, because ESPN needs to maintain its access to him.

For example, he did an interview last week with SportsCenter from Lake Tahoe, and he previously appeared for "Five Good Minutes" on PTI from the U.S. Open.

And our own Tom Curran points out that Roethlisberger will appear in an August episode of Shaquille O'Neal's new reality show, which will be televised by ESPN's sister network, ABC.

So why alienate the starting quarterback from the defending Super Bowl champs, on one of the highest-profile teams in the NFL?

The same approach was suspected by some (i.e., us) last year, when FOX's Jay Glazer reported that Brett Favre funneled information regarding the Packers' offense to the Lions, and ESPN thereafter ignored it.

Why? Because we think they eventually want to hire Favre. In the interim, they want to have unlimited access to Favre, his wife, and his agent, Bus Cook.

So Todd Wright might have the answer. Either way, there's something more to this one than meets the eye. Otherwise, our eyes would be seeing something about Roethlisberger's civil lawsuit on ESPN or ESPN.com.

effo5231

07-21-2009, 12:33 PM

And that from the guy who said the game would be played the next day with the roof blown off the stadium. Hey, my girl friend says the lights are still on.

And that after he said 3 days before that the hurricane would miss it by 70 miles.

HR - Its no wonder why so many on here want to kick your ass.

I made the point that it is only a civil case thus far. No criminal charges have been filed, as yet.

I said maybe its because her atty knew it might be dismissed like the Kobe Bryant case.

Then another poster laid 5-1 odds that no criminal charges would be filed.

My point is that during the civil proceedings, if criminal evidence is found, then criminal charges will be filed and Ben will go to jail.

right now, none of us know nothing about this.

I just made the point that only civil case is pending, not a criiminal.

Uh Houston... I think you hit a nerve.:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

caliraven

07-21-2009, 12:34 PM

What woman actually victimized files civil charges for rape prior to making a criminal complaint? The only reason one would do this is to avoid being discredited in the crim action before getting a bite at the money apple with the much lower civil standard of culpability. This situation stinks like a con.

But, if Ben did do it, i'll be interested to see how mouthy squeeler fans are with Charlie Batch at QB.

effo5231

07-21-2009, 12:41 PM

That is what I was trying to say. The norm is to file criminal charges first like with Kobe.

If that was what you were trying to say why didn't you say it?

What you actually said was

I made the point that it is only a civil case thus far. No criminal charges have been filed, as yet.

I said maybe its because her atty knew it might be dismissed like the Kobe Bryant case.

Then another poster laid 5-1 odds that no criminal charges would be filed.

My point is that during the civil proceedings, if criminal evidence is found, then criminal charges will be filed and Ben will go to jail.

Which is pretty much the exact opposite.

Galen Sevinne

07-21-2009, 01:07 PM

The incident occurred over a year ago. She implicated 9 other guys. I will bet she was a "house call entertainer" that just realized Ben was once an attendee. This is just like the Duke case and why most major sports outlets are leaving the srory alone.

this is an attempt at an out of court settlement that we will probably neve hear about.

Mista T

07-21-2009, 01:08 PM

And not one mention of this case since last night on ESPN...wonder why??? I specifically watched Sportscenter last to see if it was mentioned and nothing.Haven't been around this morning but apparently nothing still.

Just another example of the media fawning over the Stealers and protecting them.Nothing new.

Its not even listed on the ESPN website in the football section...like it never happened.

Amazing.

Well...not really.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...oethlisberger/

Perhaps ESPN is practicing responsible journalism? :229031_confused2: The lady may be a nut case -- should Ben's reputation be besmirched by irresponsible reporting?

It continues to amaze me how 21st Century journalists continue to withhold the names of alleged rape victims, yet blatantly report the names of the accused rapists, whose reputations are destroyed by the accusation even if made up --- ask the Duke lacrosse players.

ravenjoer

07-21-2009, 01:17 PM

On a serious note you would hope these things are NOT true but on the other hand i love any distractions that urine color team gets and hopefully he gets suspended by the league

I hate truly hate the Piss color team and when they come here in December it will be judgement night because this RAVENS tem has spent all off-season gearing to beat them and make a Super Bowl run NOW. Our Ravens team has never had so many vets attend OTA's and the off-season conditioning program because they know how close they are and the fact our QB has not been spotted around town having a great time is good as well because he is the film room and working on his craft

WE TAKE FLIGHT SOON I CAN'T WAIT

HoustonRaven

07-21-2009, 01:20 PM

Uh Houston... I think you hit a nerve.:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

You have no idea, Effo.

I have a melt down while in the middle of a hurricane, apologize for it and all I hear from Trap is this nonsense.

His reputation on the boards is slightly higher than whale dung yet he calls out every person under the sun.

But hey, it's ok. He speaks to DeCosta on a regular basis. :thumbup:

HoustonRaven

07-21-2009, 01:36 PM

HR - Its no wonder why so many on here want to kick your ass

Oh, I dont know about that. You, JW, RavenNurse .... maybe Losac .... am I leaving anyone else out?

I said maybe its because her atty knew it might be dismissed like the Kobe Bryant case

Why let a good debate get bogged down in things like facts, right? Like that Kobe was investigated by the cops BEFORE he was charged? Or that the chick told the prosecutor she would not testify AFTER they reached a settlement on the civil suit? Or that Kobe was accused of rape and Ben isnt?

Yeah, I can see where things are similar to the Kobe case. :grbac:

Losac

07-21-2009, 01:41 PM

Oh, I dont know about that. You, JW, RavenNurse .... maybe Losac .... am I leaving anyone else out?

Whoa, what?

HoustonRaven

07-21-2009, 01:42 PM

Whoa, what?

:laugh:

psuasskicker

07-21-2009, 02:15 PM

I want to kick his ass but that applies to everyone cause that's what I do...

- C -

:crazy:

Losac

07-21-2009, 02:17 PM

:laugh:

You drive a hard bargain for tickets but that doesn't mean I want to kick your ass. :thumbup:

HoustonRaven

07-21-2009, 02:17 PM

You drive a hard bargain for tickets but that doesn't mean I want to kick your ass. :thumbup:

You caught on! That's exactly what I was referring to but didnt think you'd pick up on it.

:thumbup:

Galen Sevinne

07-21-2009, 02:26 PM

they named the plaintiff in the case as Andrea McNulty. Apparently she was an employee at Harrah's Casino.

Rochardrik

07-21-2009, 02:29 PM

Not just Christmas.

I like how his lawyer said Ben 'didn't rape anyone, ESPECIALLY McNulty', like he actually went out of his way NOT to rape her, and has tried harder to rape other chicks.

Oh well, it's a distraction if nothing else. And as he didn't fly face-first into the side of a car, I take it we won't be deemed 'insensitive' if we start laughing about it straight away.

Holdin' my sides(not to be confused with Holdin McGroin) Now that's funny right there!

Dave Lap

07-21-2009, 02:49 PM

can't wait to talk about this with stooler fans after all their accusations about ray ray.

Yeah, but why stoop to their level?

golfleaguefrank

07-21-2009, 03:06 PM

Notwithstanding the fact that I hate the Steelers, this civil suit smells fishy. I think the key point is that she is also alleging that is also alleging that her co-workers defamed her, i.e. probably stated that she was lying about the sexual assault. Well we will see how the facts playout but unfortunately I believe that Ben will be playing this season.

baltimore_hokie

07-21-2009, 03:46 PM

i have a few buddies from shitsburgh (yeah, i know. sorry) that have drank with worthlessberger in downtown shitsburgh. they said he's a maniac when he's out boozing and always has four chicks draped around him (not saying much for the nasty women in that shithole). they've also mentioned his blatant disrespect for the women out there. i know it's hear-say, but they are stooler fans that have said this guy's an asshole.

Mr. Mojo Rizon

07-21-2009, 03:56 PM

:229031_confused2:
Lets hope you are wrong.

And not one mention of this case since last night on ESPN...wonder why??? I specifically watched Sportscenter last to see if it was mentioned and nothing.Haven't been around this morning but apparently nothing still.

Just another example of the media fawning over the Stealers and protecting them.Nothing new.

Its not even listed on the ESPN website in the football section...like it never happened.

Amazing.

Well...not really.

Rooting for Ben to not be able to play is a joke. I hate the Steelers and I want to beat them on every freakin' play, every freakin' yard, every freekin' third down, every freekin' game.

BUT WITH BEN ON THE FIELD!

You must be the kind of guy that when you were challenged in a race you wanted a head start.

Talk about hollow victories!

Dave Lap

07-21-2009, 04:03 PM

You drive a hard bargain for tickets but that doesn't mean I want to kick your ass. :thumbup:

He does drive a hard bargain for tickets. When he accused me of bringing a Steeler fan to the game I DID want to kick his ass!! :)

(My son who hates the Steelers happened to be wearing a brown coat that looked a little Steeler like if you happened to have downed about 12 beers)

HoustonRaven

07-21-2009, 04:08 PM

He does drive a hard bargain for tickets. When he accused me of bringing a Steeler fan to the game I DID want to kick his ass!! :)

(My son who hates the Steelers happened to be wearing a brown coat that looked a little Steeler like if you happened to have downed about 12 beers)

Hahahah!

For the record, I got a bogus call from a seat mate of mine who knew how pissed Id get. I fell for it and emailed you, Dave.

I was relieved the story was bogus! :)

QuothTheRaven09

07-21-2009, 04:33 PM

He obviously did it. He is too ugly to get girls.

RAVENOUS52

07-21-2009, 04:40 PM

I frequent Vegas monthly and it's amazing how differently women treat you if they think you're some bigtime rich athlete.

I'm not saying this young lady's accusations are false, however I'm leaning toward calling bullshit on her story because unless she was an electrician, why would he summon her to fix his TV?

The Vegas mindset is all about getting rich quick and I hope this lass isn't attempting to roll the dice and ruin Ben's career in the process over an incident that never happened.

Mista T

07-21-2009, 05:17 PM

I guarantee if you say stuff like that at Greg's party, someone will knock you in the teeth. You Only say stuff like that on the computer.

In a decade or so of board get-togethers, including Gerg's annual party, Draft Day, tailgating, etc. there's never been a fight among board members. Not even verbal (unless counting the Raiders fan who came after the Limeys for tossing celery). Why would anyone at our ages want to fight over message board stuff?

btw: And why is it that trouble always seems to follow you, Trap? (Rememeber, I've seen you in action).

The Fanatic

07-21-2009, 05:54 PM

In a decade or so of board get-togethers, including Gerg's annual party, Draft Day, tailgating, etc. there's never been a fight among board members. Not even verbal (unless counting the Raiders fan who came after the Limeys for tossing celery). Why would anyone at our ages want to fight over message board stuff?

Meister, but the mofo had it coming!!
You drop the C-bomb on someones wife, you normally get what you're asking for.
That and a forskin fan that tried to inject rabies into my forearm with his overbite.
Not sure he counts though because he wasn't a board participant that I'm aware of.

I'm with the group that wants to see the Steelers with all their guns.

The last thing I want to see happen is us punch them in the mouth and them not being at relative full capacity.

HoustonRaven

07-21-2009, 05:56 PM

Dont make me call up the party thread where you begged people to join you for a drink and half the board didnt want to come and said you pissed them off.

I already embarrsed youi once with that thread. I still have it.

That doesn't strike you as being particularly lame and petty? Sad. Please do bring it up (of which you have never done before) and please point out to me the "begging" part. Go ahead and re-post the hurricane stuff while you're at it. I am sure you will forget to also post the thread I started admitting I was wrong and apologizing for my behavior. And again, for the record, people posted and we had a great time downing some GM for a couple of hours. Maybe you're pissed you didnt get an invite?

I can't kick anyone's ass anymore. Too old as Losac says. I have nothing personal vs you but you come on here with that post above. It makes it hard to post sometimes.

I guarantee if you say stuff like that at Greg's party, someone will knock you in the teeth. You Only say stuff like that on the computer

Hello pot, meet kettle. I'd never say stuff to folks in Greg's circle (or anyone else on this boards for that matter) because they post here with pretty good stuff and respect people's opinion, unlink you. Yes, I pissed a lot of folks off last year and but you'd be hard pressed to find anything like that from me since.

You're the one mocked on these boards. You're the one mocked in the political forum as well. You dish it out quick, but when someone gives you a sniff of that crap you pull, you go all nuclear on them. You cannot stand it when someone even remotely has something critical of your "talks" with DeCosta or has the nerve to question your "knowledge".

What Ted just said with grace and subtlety, I will say point blank -- A long, hard look at yourself maybe in order. If trouble always seems to follow you, that ought to tell you something.

HoustonRaven

07-21-2009, 06:42 PM

HR - You have no idea what T was talking about the kind of trouble he saw. He never saw me in a fight because there were none

This what I was talking about, not some fight.

btw: And why is it that trouble always seems to follow you, Trap? (Rememeber, I've seen you in action).

I am fully aware there was never a fight. Again, what Ted said with his subtle nature, I point out to you directly. Trouble seems to follow you. Might it be something you're doing?

Look Trap, clearly you have issues with me and feel the need to be verbal about them every time I so much as type your name. If you ever want to clear this up, feel free to PM me anytime and I will gladly have a civil and peaceful dialogue with you.

If you still feel the need to act this way for all to see (and for all who could care less about your feelings about me) I suppose this is a free country and you can go right on doing it at your own disgrace.

Far be it from me to stand in the way of someone making as ass of them self.

purplepoe

07-21-2009, 07:01 PM

festivus

07-21-2009, 07:03 PM

I'll get interested when the police look to file criminal charges. Till then, it's a pretty blatant cash-grab.

As others have already said on this thread, the criminal charges, if they were coming, would have been first.

But the absence of criminal charges does *not* equal a "pretty blatant cash-grab." Yes, celebrities, particularly young celebrities, could be victimized by nuisance lawsuits. It happens in the real world. But the real world also routinely involves prosecutors electing not to charge cases they can't reasonably expect to win, even if cause is, in the victim's eyes, very real, very painful, and very just.

The standard of proof is lower in a civil suit and a civil litigator might be able to bring to bear resources unavailable to local government. Remember, just because it's on CSI doesn't mean it's real...

I'm going to withhold judgment and not malign either the accuser or the accused, just yet.

The Fanatic

07-21-2009, 07:03 PM

If you ever want to clear this up, feel free to PM me anytime and I will gladly have a civil and peaceful dialogue with you.

For the love of God, please take him up on this Trap.
Seriously dude, enough of this crap.

I'd rather the thread get back on topic as to whether or not Big Jen got raped in Vegas or not. :D

The Fanatic

07-21-2009, 07:07 PM

www.tmz.com/2009/07/21/ben-roethlisberger-sexual-assault-pittsburgh-steelers-superbowl-lawsuit-soldier-mcnulty/ (http://www.tmz.com/2009/07/21/ben-roethlisberger-sexual-assault-pittsburgh-steelers-superbowl-lawsuit-soldier-mcnulty/)

This chick in NUTS.

She gives Jimmy McNulty a bad name!

PP

Damn, didn't even read the whole article.
The first paragraph or two is all you need to read and you know this chick is coo coo magoo.

HoustonRaven

07-21-2009, 07:28 PM

www.tmz.com/2009/07/21/ben-roethlisberger-sexual-assault-pittsburgh-steelers-superbowl-lawsuit-soldier-mcnulty/ (http://www.tmz.com/2009/07/21/ben-roethlisberger-sexual-assault-pittsburgh-steelers-superbowl-lawsuit-soldier-mcnulty/)

This chick in NUTS.

She gives Jimmy McNulty a bad name!

PP

wow.

You know what though, a lot of us (if not all) have chicks like this in our past.

Im damn curious see what she looks like. Ben doesnt deny have sex with her so I want see the level of poon he pulls.

bmorebirds_24

07-21-2009, 07:35 PM

Wow, this bitch is CRAZY!

You're right HR, I thnk all guys have dated a crazy one or two in their lives. I had one cal me out of nowhere after we had been broke up and she told me she was eating all the pills in her house and killing herself cause we weren't together. It's funny if you sit back and think about it, but I NEVER wish these goofy bitches on anyone, they will try to ruin your life if they get a good enough chance. I actually feel bad for Ben, and why didn't she tell him about the soldier in the first place?:rolling:

52decleetzu

07-21-2009, 08:05 PM

festivus

07-21-2009, 08:24 PM

If you guys want all the details forget TMZ and go to PFT...they have like 5 entries up today with all types of details about Jen and his relationship with one guy at Harrahs and how they threatened this poor girl after the allegations.

Its interesting reading to say the least.

Link here (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/07/21/reference-made-to-the-tmz/). My reading of it is that the stronger (more proveable) case, if there is one, is against the casino. Something will come of it one way or the other, though if there's a settlement it'll be quiet and we'll probably not know all the details.

EdReed4Prez

07-21-2009, 09:00 PM

silly question here... If he settles with this bitch is he not giving merit to her story thus suspendable?

purplepoe

07-21-2009, 09:03 PM

Link here (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/07/21/reference-made-to-the-tmz/). My reading of it is that the stronger (more proveable) case, if there is one, is against the casino. Something will come of it one way or the other, though if there's a settlement it'll be quiet and we'll probably not know all the details.

Very interesting.

Sheds alot more light on the situation.

PP

52decleetzu

07-21-2009, 09:28 PM

As for Harrah's settling it, Harrah's wasn't even named in the suit. It might be later but not now.

From the article.
___________________________

Harrah's Entertainment Inc., is not named as a defendant in the suit.
___________________________

FANATIC - Thanks. I have nothing more to say on it - PM or otherwise.

Harrahs isn't named but 8 of their employees are..

psuasskicker

07-21-2009, 10:02 PM

But the absence of criminal charges does *not* equal a "pretty blatant cash-grab." Yes, celebrities, particularly young celebrities, could be victimized by nuisance lawsuits. It happens in the real world. But the real world also routinely involves prosecutors electing not to charge cases they can't reasonably expect to win, even if cause is, in the victim's eyes, very real, very painful, and very just.

Of course true, but almost never is there such a situation where a complaint hasn't been filed criminally. Besides this woman being bat-shit crazy, her statement was that she didn't file a criminal complaint because she was afraid of getting fired. Okay, so she didn't want to file criminal for that fear, but civil, no problem? Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaah.....

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CoverD

07-21-2009, 10:18 PM

bmorebirds_24

07-21-2009, 10:38 PM

I hate to say it, but there's a few reasons I see Big Jen getting out of this even if (for some mysterious reason) evidence comes about:

A.) He's a high-profile celeb
B.) He's a Steeler
C.) He's white

(Sad but true)

What does him being a Steeler and being white have to do with it?

Now unless the judge is a die hard Steeler fan I can't see him getting off, if proved he did it.

And as for the race card, throw it away buddy.

festivus

07-21-2009, 10:43 PM

Of course true, but almost never is there such a situation where a complaint hasn't been filed criminally. Besides this woman being bat-shit crazy, her statement was that she didn't file a criminal complaint because she was afraid of getting fired. Okay, so she didn't want to file criminal for that fear, but civil, no problem? Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaah.....

I'm not persuaded she's bat-shit crazy; I read the TMZ piece and the Florio piece and they are two alternate interpretations of similar facts, painting very different pictures.

Normally the criminal case comes first but even after an *acquittal* a civil lawsuit can still be successful, a la OJ. A rape accusation like this would be very difficult to prove for exactly the reason you see on this thread. Everybody assumes she's a crazy golddigger. How is a criminal prosecution supposed to get beyond a reasonable doubt? Not likely.

But a skilled plaintiff's attorney might be able to get beyond a preponderance of the evidence, if not against him, then against those who compounded her suffering by silencing her.

Not saying that's what happened, but just saying, I'm not ready to start throwing people under busses.

Mr. Mojo Rizon

07-21-2009, 10:51 PM

bmorebirds_24

07-21-2009, 10:57 PM

This thread is a useless piece of shit!

He probably didn't do it...and this "C" is going to get some money just to shut the F up. I think I'm going to claim that my fiance is afflicting serious mental damage because she won't clip my toenails on demand and follow it up with oral pleasure.

I haven't been the same since.

See I think you have a serious case here man. She said yes, and owes you these things. Now take her down, and have the book thrown at her...lol.

I thought your case was pretty damn funny myself.:respect

HoustonRaven

07-21-2009, 11:15 PM

C.) He's white

:grbac:

The Fanatic

07-22-2009, 01:06 AM

Thanks for proving me right HR.

That is why so many guys want to kick your ass.

He is the second guy you hit in this thread for whatever reason.

Trap, you got to be kidding me, right?

Now I know HR can bring on some strong emotions sometimes, but putting up the grbac emoticon because somebody posting that Big Jen is White could be cause for him getting off ain't far fetched IMO.

I basically had the same reaction.
Him being white has about as much to do with the outcome as Mcnair being Black had to do with his outcome.

I think you're reaching here with this Trap!

I agree with mojo up there...
This thread is a useless piece of dung right now.

I mean damn, we even brought in freakin' TMZ into this mess.

Shuttin' this garbage down, and lookin' forward to the men in purple & black bitch slappin' Big Jen around in a few months.