View Full Version : AD 4 Portis? Would you?
TL24x7
02-13-2007, 11:53 AM
More here on this tag & trade scenario (http://www.profootball24x7.com/column_view.php?cid=1&id=1145&view=archive).
Your thoughts are invited!
HDDream
02-13-2007, 12:45 PM
No, the main reason why AD is likely to leave is the Ravens can't afford the cap space it take to keep him. They can't afford Portis, either. If they do trade AD, it's gotta be for a draft pick (or if they're lucky, draft picks).
Gabrosin
02-13-2007, 12:56 PM
Agreed with HDDream. We're not interested in getting another player with a big salary. Especially not a running back! That's what the draft is for. We need to find a Clinton Portis (a guy from the second round or later who can provide a spark for our running game and be part of the mix from day one), just not THE Clinton Portis.
Fanman
02-13-2007, 02:05 PM
If that trade was for MichealTurner or a top 10 draft pick I would pull the trigger.
FM
PARavensJeff
02-13-2007, 03:18 PM
Portis is too injury prone & we don't need an injury prone feature back, we already have 1. Also, his cap #'s probably aren't very friendly & our cap is not in good shape. Turner would be a better option, low mileage & ready to play.
bassgtrst
02-13-2007, 03:24 PM
A top 10 draft pick would be nice but no team would do that trade.
Plus a top 10 guy is going to cost some serius coin.
I honestly dont think we tag and trade AD, as mentioned in another thread, AD would have to agree with his new team, restructure, and we would have to find a trade partner.
If you tag AD and then try to trade him to a crap team or he cant reach a deal, you get stuck with that 7 mil cap number and we would be crippled.
festivus
02-13-2007, 04:02 PM
No.
We already have a veteran RB whose best years are behind him. And no, I don't mean Jamal.
F Angelos
02-13-2007, 04:43 PM
It's taboo to trade franchised players! Other free agents would hold it against us for years! Just let AD walk and sign D Rhodes.
bassgtrst
02-13-2007, 04:47 PM
Rhodes is a career backup guy.
I would stay away from him at all costs.
Ravens0587
02-13-2007, 04:56 PM
o and by the way most of Portis salary might be tied up with his signing bonus.
I'm not sure the way it is structured but if it was we woould loose 0 cap space to tag and trade AD b/c his wouldn't be guaranteed, and the Redskins would pay for his signing bonus. We would only be responsible for his base salary
jonboy79
02-13-2007, 05:32 PM
We won't gert a top 10 pick for him but I don't see why we can't tag and trade him. We tag him, loet him shop himself contract wise, and then we wither match it or negotiate with his top 2-3 choices. They will only trade for him if they feel they have a contract worked out, we will only trade if we get something for him, at least a 3rd, as we would get a 3rd next year for him likely as compensation. If a trade doesn't work out, we lif tthe Tag(As long as it's unsigned, which it seems he would not do) and then he could go to his team of choice with no cap effect.
Art-Florida
02-13-2007, 05:49 PM
Other than the money factor, that would be a good move. It would make Jamal Lewis completely expendable, and Portis is a whole order of magnitude better than Jamal is at this point.
PurpleRulz
02-13-2007, 06:41 PM
It it amazing how much more valuable draft picks are in today's NFL than it was 10 or 15 years ago. Part of how we gained multiple first round picks was due to trading WRs such as Andre Rison. That would be like trading Derrick Mason for a first rounder in the 2008 draft. Those days are gone.
Getting back on topic, I would do a tag and trade of AD. I mentioned how Drew thought it would be distasteful and classless for the Ravens organization to do that, but since Ed Reed said we were a "bad organization" anyway, why not just make the tag and trade happen.
I am concerned with picking up an injury prone back as well. I'd sure as hell would trade AD to the Chargers for Turner, or trade AD to Buffalo for McGahee in a second. I would also trade AD for a first rounder in next year's draft if that were possible.
A player such as AD, you have to get something for him instead of a compensatory pick in the 3rd round of the 2008 draft (which amounts to a 4th round pick in a sense).
BlackOutD
02-14-2007, 07:34 AM
It's taboo to trade franchised players! Other free agents would hold it against us for years! Just let AD walk and sign D Rhodes.
100% agree! Rhodes may be a backup, but the kid can push a pile and i think he could come in and do wonders for us in the backfield