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StingerNLG

01-30-2010, 03:11 PM

Uhhh, I just got the text from the Ravens. They hired Jim Zorn as the new QB coach.

Really?

Beerracuda

01-30-2010, 03:11 PM

Just got this message per WNST text service.

EDIT: Posted at same time as other thread. Do not reply to this thread. One is enough.

Beerracuda

01-30-2010, 03:15 PM

Looks like you and I posted this at the exact same time, Sting.

4G63

01-30-2010, 03:16 PM

Horny for Zorny

;)

Dade

01-30-2010, 03:27 PM

Zorn should be good for Flacco. It wasn't his fault for what happen in Washington.

TL24x7

01-30-2010, 04:05 PM

Ravens Agree With Zorn
Jim Zorn has agreed to become the Baltimore Ravens’ quarterbacks coach, head coach John Harbaugh announced Saturday.
A former NFL quarterback (1976-87), Zorn also brings 13 years of NFL coaching experience to Baltimore, 11 as a quarterbacks coach and two years as head coach of the Washington Redskins.
“Jim played successfully in the NFL for a long time,” Harbaugh stated. “He knows what quarterbacks go through in this league. He has been a quarterbacks coach and a head coach, and he is familiar with our offense. That’s a great résumé.
“I’ve gotten to know Jim for the last couple of years, and I have been impressed with him as a person. He’s a good, decent man, and he will be an excellent addition to the Ravens. This is an exciting addition to our staff.”

Jim Zorn Coaching Career

Years Team Position
1989-90 Boise State Quarterbacks
1991 Boise State Quarterbacks/Wide Receivers
1992-94 Utah State Offensive Coordinator
1995-96 University of Minnesota Quarterbacks
1997 Seattle Seahawks Offensive Assistant
1998-00 Detroit Lions Quarterbacks
2000-07 Seattle Seahawks Quarterbacks
2008-09 Washington Redskins Head Coach
2010 Baltimore Ravens Quarterbacks

purplepoe

01-30-2010, 04:34 PM

Uhhh, I just got the text from the Ravens. They hired Jim Zorn as the new QB coach.

Really?

Not a surprise at all.

I think he'll help Flacco out.

The one thing is that he is a west coast offense guy and Cam is not.

Any reason you don't like it?

PP

Sephy

01-30-2010, 05:08 PM

Zorn's lack of success in Washington should have nothing to do with his great success as a QB coach, which he's had a bunch of. Best man for the job.

Rxdoxx

01-30-2010, 05:21 PM

Found the fiasco in synderville interesting, so I followed it a bit.

Only time I saw the team stink one up was the week that things leaked into the media that Shanahan had been contacted and Jerry Gray interviewed while Zorn was still HC. Outside of that, the players played hard for him, especially in the final games. That says a lot for the kind of person he is and what the players thought of him. And pubically he kept his mouth shut handling the media circus that came at him very strong. He showed Brian calss.

Don't know really how insightful of an offensive mind he is, but am very comfortable with his personality and teaching skills. Think he is an excellent addition to the staff. We won't miss a step in Joe's progress due to Hue's exit.

Losac

01-30-2010, 05:47 PM

Looks like a good hire. Zorn was a good QB coach and got completely shafted in Washington. You can't blame him for that mess and he handled it with all class when he was essentially stripped of any real powers by the Midget.

4G63

01-30-2010, 06:38 PM

The ladies over at ExtremeSkins are having a ball with this:

http://www.extremeskins.com/showthread.php?t=316520

On a side note, some of them think we have a rivalry and that some Ravens fans care about our preseason games....don't you have to actually win a few real games to count as a rivalry? :rolling:

Flipping Birdie

01-30-2010, 07:21 PM

On a side note, some of them think we have a rivalry and that some Ravens fans care about our preseason games....don't you have to actually win a few real games to count as a rivalry? :rolling:

Meh. I just saw one or two guys accusing the Ravens fans of thinking we have a rivalry. Just the same old same old. Fans of one team accusing fans of other teams of being dumb. There's no rivalry, but I do hope to have a better season than the Skins every year. It's important to our market share in Howard and Anne Arundel Counties. We NEED to have a better team than them. I grew up in Howard County. In the late seventies and early eighties there was no evidence there that the Colts even existed.

RavenScallywag

01-30-2010, 07:48 PM

Only thing that makes me scratch my head is that Al Saunders was an offensive consultant here this past year, so wouldn't you figure that guy who's been here for the past 5-6 months is better than brand new hire?

Other than that, think this will give Zorn a chance at some redemption in the Redskins' backyard.

As for the rivalry...it's more a fan rivalry than a team rivalry. Becuase of how close we are, you get a lot more Ravens vs Redskins debates between people in the area. I'd rank it probably 5th on our chain of rivalries, behind the Steelers, Bengals, Browns, and Colts...tied with the Titans.

Aces2Bluff

01-30-2010, 08:29 PM

RavensDomination

01-30-2010, 09:53 PM

Not a surprise at all.

I think he'll help Flacco out.

The one thing is that he is a west coast offense guy and Cam is not.

I like the move as well, but you are right, it will be interesting to see how the two styles mesh. I thought Zorn did a great job with Campbell, he sucks and Zorn managed to make him look respectable at times.

Tspot-D-Ravenator

01-30-2010, 10:45 PM

:thumbup: Next to Burt Jones and Fran Tarkenton, Jim Zorn was one of my favorite QB's to watch growing up! He has a calm spirit and that is a good thing with young QB's:kewl:

Marcel#52

01-31-2010, 09:10 AM

Only thing that makes me scratch my head is that Al Saunders was an offensive consultant here this past year, so wouldn't you figure that guy who's been here for the past 5-6 months is better than brand new hire?

Saunders never had QB coach experience. I am A-Ok with the hire. The man lead Hasselback to multiple pro bowls and franchise records..Once he left (and injuries mounted) Hasselback hasnt done crap since...

yeah this.... Saunders is a WR coach.. that's his expertise..

RavenScallywag

01-31-2010, 09:40 AM

Yeah...I mean I thought Al was here more as a safety net in case Cam left for a HC gig, but I figured he'd be the front runner at first.

Again, I have no problem with the Zorn hire. I think he's going to work out great as a QB coach.

CRZA938

01-31-2010, 12:34 PM

Zorn's track record with QB's is impressive and he is well respected in that area. I think it is a quality hire.

Stealthbirds80

01-31-2010, 04:45 PM

I like the hire alot :thumbup:. I seems like him and Flacco are a match as they are both calm and collected guys. Not sure if that is a good or bad thing though. Pretty good track record by Zorn on QB's and his Skins stint should have no bearing on his success here. Time for Flacco to make another quantum leap hopefully.

baltimore_hokie

02-04-2010, 07:37 PM

Two things that Flacco needs to focus on that seem to be Zorn's strengths:

Zorn comes from a West Coast offense in Seattle. The West Coast offense focuses on shorter, quicker routes, often over the middle of the field. It's a system in which the quarterback must quickly distribute the football, something Flacco was criticized for not doing at the tail end of the 2009 season.

While the Ravens' system obviously isn't going to change with Zorn's arrival, Zorn was confident he could help Flacco make quicker throws.

"Yes, I can and I will," Zorn said. "But I won't assume any problems. I already see some things I could make a comment about here and there, but you have to know about the offense before you critique the quarterback."

More than teaching mechanics, Zorn says he likes to "teach football." That entails knowing defensive fronts, coverages, blitz packages how the run game works and how to play the field position game, for example.

HoustonRaven

02-05-2010, 06:53 AM

I love, love, love the Zorn pick up.

Some coaches just fit certain roles and are not HC material. Cam as an O coordinator, LeBeau as D coordinator and Zorn as a QB coach.

RAVENOUS52

02-05-2010, 10:18 AM

I love, love, love the Zorn pick up.

Some coaches just fit certain roles and are not HC material. Cam as an O coordinator, LeBeau as D coordinator and Zorn as a QB coach.

To me this is the next best thing to having Shanahan come in. Smart move, Front Office...:thumbup:

JimZipCode

02-06-2010, 10:38 PM

I agree with most who say that Zorn can help Flacco. If he can speed up Flacco's moves and decision-making, I think that will help a lot, even though Cam runs a different offense from the West Coast stuff Zorn was coaching in Seattle.

Zorn himself wasn't always a West Coast Offense guy. Heck, when he was playing, the WCO didn't even exist. So it's not like he only knows how to coach QBs in that system. He'll have principles he'll teach that are fundamental to the QB position, apply across systems.

Probably a much better choice for a QB coach than Saunders, just because of Zorn's experience, including his playing experience. Saunders has never been a QB coach, so far as I know. I still hope we can keep Saunders. Great football mind. (Maybe we can get him to coach WRs. No one has yet been able to get our WRs to set the world on fire. ;-)

No one has pointed this out, but Zorn is a really interesting hire for Harbaugh. They weren't on the same staff in college, Zorn didn't coach with Harbaugh's dad, Zorn didn't recruit Harbaugh: there's no prior connection. He just an extremely qualified and experienced QB coach, who happened to become available, and Harbaugh snagged him.

Actually, it wouldn't surprise me to learn they became close over the last couple years, as local NFL coaches who are also men of faith. So maybe this will turn out to be another case where the pre-existing personal connection was the final selling point. But even so, Zorn's credentials are undeniable. It's new blood and new brains into the organization, another coaching viewpoint.

Dade

02-07-2010, 03:43 AM

Zorn knowing the west coast offense will help Flacco. In that scheme the QB has to make quick decisions and his release on the throw also has to be quick. These are two areas that Flacco can really improve on. Flacco needs to spend every moment of the off season attached to Jim's hip.

pro320

02-08-2010, 07:08 PM

effo5231

02-08-2010, 10:49 PM

I don't believe Zorn was our best option. Al Saunders was my choice to help propel the progression of Joe Flacco. Should I say Jason Campbell. His progress has been delayed by people such as Zorn.....

Yea and Harbaugh was the wrong choice for the head coach too. I think we should have brought in Gary Williams. He's a proven winner.

JimZipCode

02-08-2010, 11:24 PM

I don't believe Zorn was our best option. Al Saunders was my choice to help propel the progression of Joe Flacco. Should I say Jason Campbell. His progress has been delayed by people such as Zorn.
Campbell held back by Zorn? Funny, Jason Campbell posted his two highest completion pctgs under Zorn, his two highest yards-per-attempt figures, and his two highest TD totals. Looks like Zorn improved Campbell.

Al Saunders would be my choice to be OC, if Cameron left. But he has never been a QB coach at any level. Zorn has, both in college and the pro's.

HoustonRaven

02-09-2010, 04:56 AM

I don't believe Zorn was our best option. Al Saunders was my choice to help propel the progression of Joe Flacco. Should I say Jason Campbell. His progress has been delayed by people such as Zorn.....

Wow. Really?

He failed miserably as an OC with the Skins and has very little (if any) experience coaching QB's.

Zorn failed too but he has a ton of QB coaching experience.

RavenScallywag

02-09-2010, 08:17 AM

Let's make some little analogies here...I'm in an SAT mood today...

Zorn::Redskin QBs : Harbaugh::Ravens ST

Our special teams here under Harbaugh as HC? Not that great. You know why? Because HARBAUGH ISN'T COACHING the Special Teams. He's coaching the whole team.

Yeah, Zorn sucked as a HC, we get it, we don't deny it. He wasn't coaching the QBs in Washington, he was coaching the whole team. He had an OC and a QB coach of him own to deal with Campbell. Did he meddle here and there? Sure, just the same as Harbaugh chips in here and there with our ST. But he's not devoting all his time to it, much like Zorn wasn't devoting his whole time to QBs.

Zorn will do fine here. He already came out and said he has to earn Flacco's trust, not the other way around. And that's how it should be.

srobert96

02-09-2010, 08:31 AM

I don't believe Zorn was our best option. Al Saunders was my choice to help propel the progression of Joe Flacco. Should I say Jason Campbell. His progress has been delayed by people such as Zorn.....

Zorn was the HC, OC and QB coach of the Redskins. He was in completely over his head. Had Zorn been hired as the OC I would have been concerned. As another poster pointed out JC's numbers were the best of his career under Zorn. I would also like to point out Zorn became Hassleback's QB coach in his third year and he proceeded to make 4 pro bowls.