Protesting Vick at Ed Block Courage Awards

[Mista T]

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The guy is a sleeze bag and I wish that Ed Block's name weren't becoming besmirched by this controversy (http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/ravens/bal-vick-courage-award-0309,0,3612791.story):


More than 100 protesters, carrying signs with slogans like "No awards for dog killers" and "Cowards abuse animals," assembled outside a Baltimore County banquet hall this afternoon, outraged that Michael Vick was there to receive an award for his courage and sportsmanship.

But when is enough, enough? These stupid protests aren't going to bring back the lives of the abused dogs, and they aren't going to impact Vick's career, since he's already been reinstated. All that they are accomplishing is increasing the overhead costs of the Ed Block Courage Awards, diluting an already diluted pot aimed at charity.

Time for these do-gooders to move on!

[baltimore_hokie]

Get a life, people. There are much bigger issues in this country (and world) that they could devote their time to bitching and moaning about.

The sad thing is that some resolution might come from supporting other causes, but this demonstration will do nothing at all.

[Stealthbirds80]

They've shut down half of Woodlawn because of this nonsense.

[jonboy79]

It's the foundation' s fault, not the protesters. I called this the day it was announced who won. They knew this was going to happen and still let the bum get the award. Not forcing Philly to change their nomination is the problem here.

Ed Block's name was tarnished a few years ago when it was reported they are unable to get below the 85% overhead costs that tax-free organizations must. For every dollar donated to this "charity" a dime or less goes to those in need.

[Mr.Boh]

It's the foundation' s fault, not the protesters. I called this the day it was announced who won. They knew this was going to happen and still let the bum get the award. Not forcing Philly to change their nomination is the problem here.
The charity needed to grow a pair when Vick's name first crossed their desk and should have sent it back.
I actually supported Vick's return because he seemed to be doing everything right, up until this award BS. At the initial controversy he came out and said "I deserve this. No one knows what I have been through." He should have showed some class and quietly declined, and we should never even know he was a factor.

[duffybr]

1st amendment rights there kids, besides a higher than 85 % administration cost is beyond ridiculous for a charity

[CRZA938]

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But when is enough, enough? These stupid protests aren't going to bring back the lives of the abused dogs, and they aren't going to impact Vick's career, since he's already been reinstated. Time for these do-gooders to move on!

No way. Is it really that bad that those protecting animal rights use this tragedy as a spring board to spread awareness? No, it will not bring those dogs back, but it may inspire others to push for harsher penalties or better yet simply get involved.

[CRZA938]

Get a life, people. There are much bigger issues in this country (and world) that they could devote their time to bitching and moaning about.

The sad thing is that some resolution might come from supporting other causes, but this demonstration will do nothing at all.

Who's to say what people should and should not be concerned with? You? Public opinion? I think you're being rather insensitive to this situation. Maybe someone got involved because their dog was stolen and mauled in a "training" session, or maybe they just give a shit about animal rights. Who really cares why they are doing it.

[NCRAVEN]

Who's to say what people should and should not be concerned with? You? Public opinion? I think you're being rather insensitive to this situation. Maybe someone got involved because their dog was stolen and mauled in a "training" session, or maybe they just give a shit about animal rights. Who really cares why they are doing it.

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[baltimore_hokie]

Who's to say what people should and should not be concerned with? You? Public opinion? I think you're being rather insensitive to this situation. Maybe someone got involved because their dog was stolen and mauled in a "training" session, or maybe they just give a shit about animal rights. Who really cares why they are doing it.

Because it's a complete waste of time and inconsequential use of resources. And it's apparently become a nuisance to those in the area, let alone those attending the dinner.

[Mista T]

1st amendment rights there kids, besides a higher than 85 % administration cost is beyond ridiculous for a charity

First Amendment is carried to extremes. The Ed Block awards are not held on the US Capital grounds -- if I recall my Constitutional law classes from many years ago, 1st amendment in this case is a bogus argument. If these protesters were on private roperty, they should have been arrested.

How about the crazies protesting homosexuals in the military to disturb the funeral of a Westminster soldier killed in battle? Is that an OK abuse of the 1st Amendment as well?

Whether or not the 85% is real -- I have been told that it was just media sensationalism -- if extra money had to be spend on security to keep the do-gooders and other crazies away from the events' participants, then even less than 15% would trickle to the charities.




No way. Is it really that bad that those protecting animal rights use this tragedy as a spring board to spread awareness? No, it will not bring those dogs back, but it may inspire others to push for harsher penalties or better yet simply get involved.

Aw, screw those assholes! Let them write letters to the editor, tweet their twitters, blog their blogs, or whatever makes them happy to keep up this stupid crusade against a hoodlum who has been reinstated into the NFL. Just get them the hell out of the way from the people who paid thousands to attend and enjoy this event, and stop harassing innocent drivers in Baltimore County.

[Tspot-D-Ravenator]

What Vick did was wrong....He paid his debt, did his time! People need to get more involved with people being killed and tortured...Animals are innocent, but they are animals..I love pets, but we eat animals, right? Let it go people, let it go!! I know this doesn't seem like a popular thought, but I am sick and tired of PETA and their shananagans...Been eating animals since Biblical times:p Heck, they eat cats and dogs in other countries! Why don't they go and protest those countries and leave Vick alone..He is trying to be a better person, but PETA wants his blood....Sad:eyes: Where is forgiveness?

[Flipping Birdie]

My favorite thing about the Ed Block Courage Award is how the helmet on the trophy bobbles in the back window when you run over a dog.

So a few dozen people held signs up and protested. So what? Private property/public property, so effing what, to arrest them would have been a complete waste of tax dollars and a p/r disaster for the foundation.

If anybody has an issue with anyone take it up the the players in Philly. Complaining about a few dozen people expressing their opinion publicly is just silly. Comparing this on any level to the actions of the Westboro Baptist Church is too far gone from a reasonable comparison to be taken seriously.

[Tspot-D-Ravenator]

If anybody has an issue with anyone take it up the the players in Philly. Complaining about a few dozen people expressing their opinion publicly is just silly. .

:iagree: I didn't see any of the news footage, but it is their right to protest.

[RavensNTerps]

Pride of Virginia Tech!

[CRZA938]

Because it's a complete waste of time and inconsequential use of resources. And it's apparently become a nuisance to those in the area, let alone those attending the dinner.

Not inconsequential if they can spread awareness or inspire someone to get involved in protecting animals as they can not protect themselves. You never know whose life you are going to impact or when.

I do agree that unfortunately, many activists tend to cross the line, and do more harm to their cause then good.

[Tspot-D-Ravenator]

I do agree that unfortunately, many activists tend to cross the line, and do more harm to their cause then good.

Ain't that the truth!!

[baltimore_hokie]

The interesting part of this is that the award is voted on by his teammates. It's not like regular citizens or sportswriters are voting for Vick because of who he is or what he has done, but rather his teammates that saw and interacted with him everyday.

[festivus]

I'll roll my eyes with most of you when animal rights activists - or zealots of any stripe - do goofy stuff.

But this? Their cause is just and Michael Vick is a prominent part of the American institution that is the National Football League. He is a disgrace to the so-called charity, he is a disgrace to his organization, and he is a disgrace to the league. He is a disgrace to Virginia Tech and he clearly did no favors for his younger brother. Besides the abuse of the dogs and the gambling he lied his ass off throughout the process.

He deserves protests. I hope eventually he feels some shame, but I wouldn't bet on it.

[baltimore_hokie]

But this? Their cause is just and Michael Vick is a prominent part of the American institution that is the National Football League. He is a disgrace to the so-called charity, he is a disgrace to his organization, and he is a disgrace to the league. He is a disgrace to Virginia Tech and he clearly did no favors for his younger brother. Besides the abuse of the dogs and the gambling he lied his ass off throughout the process.



It's really a shame that he did this because he was absolutely the best college player to watch I've ever seen. He was electric every time he stepped on the field. I obviously don't agree with anything he did and it will never be the same, but the run when he led Tech to the National Championship game was incredible. His recent actions will leave an asterisk next to his accomplishments, but I will always have the memories he gave before all of this.

His brother, on the other hand, was a complete waste of space. He had every opportunity and ability to be better than MV, but was just a complete asshole. Having him instead of Glennon would have been great for another NC for the two years he screwed us over, but he is a tool.

[Flipping Birdie]

I'm pretty indifferent to the entire thing, and from all aspects. If anything I'm getting a huge laugh out all parties involved: PETA, Vick, the NFL, the Eagles' players, Ed Block, us, etc..

Let us not forget that just a year ago Vick was a hair's breadth away from being a spokesperson for PETA, if not for the fact that PETA insisted that Vick undergo a brain scan - which was the only thing PETA has ever done that amused me in a respectful manner. Such a clever and ironic way to dehumanize an animal torturer. Regardless, if PETA was in anyway involved in the protests a few days ago after almost signing him to be a spokesperson... bah, whatever, they're annoying and will do whatever gets them the most publicity.

[Tspot-D-Ravenator]

I'll roll my eyes with most of you when animal rights activists - or zealots of any stripe - do goofy stuff.

But this? Their cause is just and Michael Vick is a prominent part of the American institution that is the National Football League. He is a disgrace to the so-called charity, he is a disgrace to his organization, and he is a disgrace to the league. He is a disgrace to Virginia Tech and he clearly did no favors for his younger brother. Besides the abuse of the dogs and the gambling he lied his ass off throughout the process.

He deserves protests. I hope eventually he feels some shame, but I wouldn't bet on it.

Ever believe that people can change? I am so glad you are not God...I don't have any quams with you festivus or anyone who believes Vick did a horrible thing. In fact, I totally agree with you...But when is it time to forgive and let it go? Just wondering :o

[RavensNTerps]

It's really a shame that he did this because he was absolutely the best college player to watch I've ever seen. He was electric every time he stepped on the field. I obviously don't agree with anything he did and it will never be the same, but the run when he led Tech to the National Championship game was incredible. His recent actions will leave an asterisk next to his accomplishments, but I will always have the memories he gave before all of this.

His brother, on the other hand, was a complete waste of space. He had every opportunity and ability to be better than MV, but was just a complete asshole. Having him instead of Glennon would have been great for another NC for the two years he screwed us over, but he is a tool.

In order to win ANOTHER national championship there has to be at least some point in time that you've won a single national championship...

Showing up in one national championship game and not belonging on the same field as the team that won does not count.

And Marcus Vick is easily the biggest piece of shit in the world. The fact that he got like 4th and 5th chances caused me to lose any respect I had for Beamer (and yes, I used to really respect the guy).

[baltimore_hokie]

In order to win ANOTHER national championship there has to be at least some point in time that you've won a single national championship...

Showing up in one national championship game and not belonging on the same field as the team that won does not count.

And Marcus Vick is easily the biggest piece of shit in the world. The fact that he got like 4th and 5th chances caused me to lose any respect I had for Beamer (and yes, I used to really respect the guy).

Dude, get a life.

[Losac]

In order to win ANOTHER national championship there has to be at least some point in time that you've won a single national championship...

Showing up in one national championship game and not belonging on the same field as the team that won does not count.

And Marcus Vick is easily the biggest piece of shit in the world. The fact that he got like 4th and 5th chances caused me to lose any respect I had for Beamer (and yes, I used to really respect the guy).

Well said. I do hate me some Virginia Tech.

As for Vick, the man has not changed! People are so gullible if they actually think the man feels genuine remorse for what he did. You don't run a dogfighting ring for 6 years, and then get caught and suddenly you're a changed man. He got caught and if he hadn't gotten caught he would still be doing it! People are watching him now and he's just doing what his handlers are telling him to do (charity work, etc) Serving time for a crime you did is not courageous. And to the "it's just a dog" crowd, how do you think serial killers start out? By torturing animals. If you can hang a dog from a tree, chisel its teeth out, and electrocute it and feel nothing as it yelps and cries in pain, then you could do the same thing to a human.

Vick is a piece of human garbage.

[crazyraven]

As for Vick, the man has not changed! People are so gullible if they actually think the man feels genuine remorse for what he did.

I dont know, he spent some time behind bars when he could have been getting paid top QB Money. He certainly isnt getting paid what he used to. He lost a lot of money.

Now when he has free time and doing the right thing by doing community work or working with charities he is met with extremist who will never ever forgive him. To them I say STFU. Find something else to do!

You dont know what his handlers are telling him Losac. Maybe he should just sit at home counting the money that he currently getting and not do a damn thing. That would be the creepier thing to do. why would anyone want to go through all this bullshit.

Vick has paid a price and he continues to have grief about what he has done. He has sat in a Jail cell and he is trying to do the right thing by making appearance. He's got to live with what he's done. I quite honestly I dont give a shit about what he did, was it bad, yes! But in my eyes he's paid his debt to society. Leave it alone aready

[Losac]

I dont know, he spent some time behind bars when he could have been getting paid top QB Money. He certainly isnt getting paid what he used to. He lost a lot of money.

Now when he has free time and doing the right thing by doing community work or working with charities he is met with extremist who will never ever forgive him. To them I say STFU. Find something else to do!

You dont know what his handlers are telling him Losac. Maybe he should just sit at home counting the money that he currently getting and not do a damn thing. That would be the creepier thing to do. why would anyone want to go through all this bullshit.

Vick has paid a price and he continues to have grief about what he has done. He has sat in a Jail cell and he is trying to do the right thing by making appearance. He's got to live with what he's done. I quite honestly I dont give a shit about what he did, was it bad, yes! But in my eyes he's paid his debt to society. Leave it alone aready

Counting what money? He lost all of his endorsement deals and had to declare bankruptcy after he lost all of his fortune by gambling it on dog fighting and in idiotic business deals and investments. He has to play football again if he wants to get paid. In order to play football again, he has to at least appear like he's a "changed man".

How do you know he feels grief? Because he says he does on TV with a smirk on his face, or because he takes 20 minutes to speak to school kids so he'll look better to the public? Look at all the morons who defend Vick because dog fighting is a "cultural thing" and "it was only dogs, not humans". You don't think Vick actually feels the same way deep inside? He does or he wouldn't have continued the behavior for 6 years.

[Tspot-D-Ravenator]

How do you know he feels grief?


:229031_confused2:How do you know that he doesn't?:nerd:

[Losac]

:229031_confused2:How do you know that he doesn't?:nerd:

Because you don't do horrible things like this, on an ongoing basis, for 6 years and then suddenly have a change of heart. And his change of heart just happens to coincide with his being caught, his name and reputation run through the mud, losing his job with the Falcons and hundreds of millions of dollars in endorsement deals? Uh, yeah. Any student of human behavior should be able to read between the lines here. It's just sad that people are really gullible enough to swallow the BS.

[jonboy79]

Because you don't do horrible things like this, on an ongoing basis, for 6 years and then suddenly have a change of heart. And his change of heart just happens to coincide with his being caught, his name and reputation run through the mud, losing his job with the Falcons and hundreds of millions of dollars in endorsement deals? Uh, yeah. Any student of human behavior should be able to read between the lines here. It's just sad that people are really gullible enough to swallow the BS.

But he's so COURAGEous to stand there and keep his nose clean since.....

My Butt... he got his second chance... but no need to award him for being a normal person. Reminds me of that Chris Rock sketch.... "But I take care of my kids" YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO

[Tspot-D-Ravenator]

Because you don't do horrible things like this, on an ongoing basis, for 6 years and then suddenly have a change of heart. And his change of heart just happens to coincide with his being caught, his name and reputation run through the mud, losing his job with the Falcons and hundreds of millions of dollars in endorsement deals? Uh, yeah. Any student of human behavior should be able to read between the lines here. It's just sad that people are really gullible enough to swallow the BS.

Why don'you just electrocute him or put him on death row?...:eyes:

[Losac]

But he's so COURAGEous to stand there and keep his nose clean since.....

My Butt... he got his second chance... but no need to award him for being a normal person. Reminds me of that Chris Rock sketch.... "But I take care of my kids" YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO

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The Steelers should give Big Ben the 2010 Ed Block courage award if he manages to not sexually assault anybody else for the rest of the year.

[jonboy79]

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The Steelers should give Big Ben the 2010 Ed Block courage award if he manages to not sexually assault anybody else for the rest of the year.

Exactly my point.
Stallworth get's it for managening not to run someone over.
Randy Moss get's it for getting high all offseason without failing a piss test
(Or Brady for not getting a supermodel pregnant) Tough call..


How low can we set the bar? Give it to Tony Washington for not porking his sister?
http://www.draftcountdown.com/ScoutingReports/OT/Tony-Washington.php

Ok that might have just crossed the line for anyone that heard that story...