Derek Anderson, now a free agent

[Mista T]

Released (http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d816d8379&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true)today:


Derek Anderson's uneven five-year stint with the Browns is over.

The team released the one-time Pro Bowl quarterback Tuesday, one day after it acquired backup Seneca Wallace in a trade with the Seattle Seahawks.

Anderson made the Pro Bowl in 2007, when he threw 29 touchdown passes and led the Browns to a 10-6 record.

Last season was a downer, but consider the shittiness of that whole team. He's a full-grown, five year vet who would be a huge upgrade over Troy Smith. If he fails to catch on somewhere else where there's competition for the top job (St. Louis, Phoenix), I would like to see Derek brought back to Baltimore for a try-out. Of course, he'd have to be looking at $1 million or so, not the $7 million that had been in his terminated Browns contract.

[jonboy79]

I can't imagine he will be available in our price range. However I agree he would be an excellent backup.
Wallace should give us a good idea on Troy's value. IF Senecca was traded for a 5th we might have a chance to get something for Troy, if Seattle got a 6th or later I don't like our odds. Senecca is a clearly superior player of the same mold, but I don't think the difference is light years, proabbly 2 rounds or so difference in value.

[Stealthbirds80]

Would I like to see him come back sure, but I think that he is looking for a starter's job with more than backup cash.

[NC Raven]

"Derek Anderson's uneven five-year stint with the Browns is over."

Five years?!?! Really? It's been that long? I've had two kids, sold a house, bought another one, and started 4 businesses since then (only one still running :D -- that's life, eh?) Holy smokes I feel old. It just doesn't seem that long. Now going to head out to the deck, pour me some vino, and contemplate life or something. Five years..... dang.

[StingerNLG]

Ahhhh, remember when everyone was pissing themselves because Ozzie let Derek Anderson go?

Pardon me, when supposedly it was really BRIAN BILLICK who let Derek Anderson go?

We were going to rue the day. Rue RUE I tell you.

:happy:

[TheExtraPoint]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/03/09/derek-anderson-says-ruthless-browns-fans-dont-deserve-a-winner/

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Former Browns quarterback Derek Anderson, cut on Tuesday by the team, ripped Cleveland fans via an e-mail sent to Jeff Schudel of the News-Herald.

"The fans are ruthless and don't deserve a winner," Anderson said. "I will never forget getting cheered when I was injured. I know at times I wasn't great. I hope and pray I'm playing when my team comes to town and [we] roll them."

Anderson also said that, after the 2009 season ended, he heard from no one with the organization until learning that he had been cut.

The cheering incident to which Anderson refers occurred in November 2008, when fans reacted happily to the fact that Anderson was on the ground, writhing in pain. As it turned out, he had torn a knee ligament.

[purplepoe]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/03/09/derek-anderson-says-ruthless-browns-fans-dont-deserve-a-winner/

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Former Browns quarterback Derek Anderson, cut on Tuesday by the team, ripped Cleveland fans via an e-mail sent to Jeff Schudel of the News-Herald.

"The fans are ruthless and don't deserve a winner," Anderson said. "I will never forget getting cheered when I was injured. I know at times I wasn't great. I hope and pray I'm playing when my team comes to town and [we] roll them."

Anderson also said that, after the 2009 season ended, he heard from no one with the organization until learning that he had been cut.

The cheering incident to which Anderson refers occurred in November 2008, when fans reacted happily to the fact that Anderson was on the ground, writhing in pain. As it turned out, he had torn a knee ligament.

Too funny.

PP

[CoverD]

"The fans are ruthless and don't deserve a winner," Anderson said. "I will never forget getting cheered when I was injured. I know at times I wasn't great. I hope and pray I'm playing when my team comes to town and [we] roll them."
Sounds like some Ravens fans when Boller got taken out of the game due to injury.

[Captain Offense]

In reading DA's comments I thought of the Boller incident too. National televsion, Sunday Night game against the Indys. I was not happy to be a Ravens fan listening to all of the low-life bottom-feeders that cheered while he was on the ground. I have felt passion for the team and joined the brotherhood with fans, both home and away. That was one incident that was a black mark on the fans.

DA could be a test-drive in training camp if the price is right and Smith makes it on his knees to the Mistake-on-the -Lake. Now that is one guy I will not be cheering. Button it up, TS.

[psuasskicker]

He's a full-grown, five year vet who would be a huge upgrade over Troy Smith.

No he wouldn't.

He made his name on five big games in '07, really three HUGE games. As a matter of fact, those five games look like this:
90/136 (66.2%), 1,278 yds (9.4/att), 15 TD, 3 INT, 123.9 QB rating
and if you strip out those five games, the rest of his 34 game career looks like this:
497/973 (51.1%), 5,805 yds (6.0/att), 31 TD, 42 INT, 62.1 QB rating

He's had 9 games in his career where he had over a 90 QB rating, but 17 with under a 70 rating, which includes 9 with a less than 50 rating where he completed only 42% of his passes and threw 1 TD to 9 INTs. He has, save for those five games in '07, been far worse than Kyle Boller ever was.

As much as I like to say Troy Smith has no value, one of the biggest reasons Troy has no value isn't because he's a horrendous player. Troy's not that terrible. He's an adequate backup QB. But his attitude and ego are way out of line for the type of player he is, and that hurts the team more than his presence on the roster helps it.

Still, DA would be a far worse option than Troy Smith. He had a couple great games, but largely has been terrible other than those games, and I wouldn't ever want to see him take the field for us, which means there's no point in having him on the roster.

- C -

[Carey]

No he wouldn't.

He made his name on five big games in '07, really three HUGE games. As a matter of fact, those five games look like this:
90/136 (66.2%), 1,278 yds (9.4/att), 15 TD, 3 INT, 123.9 QB rating
and if you strip out those five games, the rest of his 34 game career looks like this:
497/973 (51.1%), 5,805 yds (6.0/att), 31 TD, 42 INT, 62.1 QB rating

He's had 9 games in his career where he had over a 90 QB rating, but 17 with under a 70 rating, which includes 9 with a less than 50 rating where he completed only 42% of his passes and threw 1 TD to 9 INTs. He has, save for those five games in '07, been far worse than Kyle Boller ever was.

As much as I like to say Troy Smith has no value, one of the biggest reasons Troy has no value isn't because he's a horrendous player. Troy's not that terrible. He's an adequate backup QB. But his attitude and ego are way out of line for the type of player he is, and that hurts the team more than his presence on the roster helps it.

Still, DA would be a far worse option than Troy Smith. He had a couple great games, but largely has been terrible other than those games, and I wouldn't ever want to see him take the field for us, which means there's no point in having him on the roster.

- C -

Agreed, you want your backup to be steady and accurate. He's the exact opposite.

[NC Raven]

Anderson also wouldn't help out with our "backup QB wants to be a starter" problem either, in all likelihood.

[Mwjergs]

No he wouldn't.

He made his name on five big games in '07, really three HUGE games. As a matter of fact, those five games look like this:
90/136 (66.2%), 1,278 yds (9.4/att), 15 TD, 3 INT, 123.9 QB rating
and if you strip out those five games, the rest of his 34 game career looks like this:
497/973 (51.1%), 5,805 yds (6.0/att), 31 TD, 42 INT, 62.1 QB rating

He's had 9 games in his career where he had over a 90 QB rating, but 17 with under a 70 rating, which includes 9 with a less than 50 rating where he completed only 42% of his passes and threw 1 TD to 9 INTs. He has, save for those five games in '07, been far worse than Kyle Boller ever was.

As much as I like to say Troy Smith has no value, one of the biggest reasons Troy has no value isn't because he's a horrendous player. Troy's not that terrible. He's an adequate backup QB. But his attitude and ego are way out of line for the type of player he is, and that hurts the team more than his presence on the roster helps it.

Still, DA would be a far worse option than Troy Smith. He had a couple great games, but largely has been terrible other than those games, and I wouldn't ever want to see him take the field for us, which means there's no point in having him on the roster.

- C -

Leave Anderson alone and let some other team take a chance on him.

He simply isn't that good.

Troy Smith has no value because it's hard to gauge that from only a handful of appearances on the field. I can't see how any team would be willing to give up anything to get him at this stage of his career.

His confidence I don't see as any problem or detriment to the team. Imagine if Flacco was hurt badly enough this past season to where Smith had to play. He would have no trouble at least in his mind taking over and don't you want that from a back-up. Weather he can actually get the job done or not remains to be seen.

I think this has been made more of an issue by the media than anything. Smith has let his agent be his biggest advocate and publicly he's still saying all the right things. As far as we know he hasn't done anything to disrupt the team - yet.

[sailorsam]

I see DA in Oakland. Al loves big arms.

[AirFlacco]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/03/09/derek-anderson-says-ruthless-browns-fans-dont-deserve-a-winner/

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Former Browns quarterback Derek Anderson, cut on Tuesday by the team, ripped Cleveland fans via an e-mail sent to Jeff Schudel of the News-Herald.

"The fans are ruthless and don't deserve a winner," Anderson said. "I will never forget getting cheered when I was injured. I know at times I wasn't great. I hope and pray I'm playing when my team comes to town and [we] roll them."

Anderson also said that, after the 2009 season ended, he heard from no one with the organization until learning that he had been cut.



The cheering incident to which Anderson refers occurred in November 2008, when fans reacted happily to the fact that Anderson was on the ground, writhing in pain. As it turned out, he had torn a knee ligament.


Baltimore fans did the same thing to Boller.

They must have really hated Derek.


I'd love to have him as backup at the right price and if he'd be back up.

[RavensNTerps]

Anderson isn't even an upgrade over Beck, much less Troy Smith.

T- what's with the shots at Troy in like every single one of your posts? How could he possibly have shown anything to make you think he's awful? Your agenda against him is ludicrous. It can't simply be because he's short, can it??

[Mista T]

Anderson isn't even an upgrade over Beck, much less Troy Smith.

Anderson made the Pro Bowl two seasons ago. Maybe he can revert to that level of performance. It would sure be worth taking a look, if no one else signs him first. Todd Collins may be a better choice, but all we've seen there is a smokescreen article a few weeks ago.

Beck has shown only potential via the last 2009 exhibition game; otherwise, he looked befuddled in a Dolphins uniform. Smith has shown essentially nothing -- he can't see the WRs when trying to stay inside the pocket and that he can't pass accurately when scrambling.



T- what's with the shots at Troy in like every single one of your posts? How could he possibly have shown anything to make you think he's awful? Your agenda against him is ludicrous. It can't simply be because he's short, can it??

Yeah, right on. Blame me for Smith's disastrous first start against the Seahawks. :261695:And, yes, I fully admit, I entered into a conspiracy with Smith's agent to lobby for a trade during a playoff run to make him look like a total jerk, and into another conspiracy with the other 31 NFL GM's to ignore him as an RFA requiring only a 5th round compensation. I own millions of dollars of stock in the CFL and I expect to see Smith as the next Doug Flutie.

[Jeremiah W]

Anderson made the Pro Bowl two seasons ago. Maybe he can revert to that level of performance. It would sure be worth taking a look, if no one else signs him first. Todd Collins may be a better choice, but all we've seen there is a smokescreen article a few weeks ago.

Beck has shown only potential via the last 2009 exhibition game; otherwise, he looked befuddled in a Dolphins uniform. Smith has shown essentially nothing -- he can't see the WRs when trying to stay inside the pocket and that he can't pass accurately when scrambling.




Yeah, right on. Blame me for Smith's disastrous first start against the Seahawks. :261695:And, yes, I fully admit, I entered into a conspiracy with Smith's agent to lobby for a trade during a playoff run to make him look like a total jerk, and into another conspiracy with the other 31 NFL GM's to ignore him as an RFA requiring only a 5th round compensation. I own millions of dollars of stock in the CFL and I expect to see Smith as the next Doug Flutie.

You are short QB hater if you do not like Flutie and Troy Smith.

First thing, no RFA has been signed to an offer sheet as far as I know. DA is a street FA, Wallace got moved for a 2011 7th rounder, Lady Quinn is on the block, Shaun Hill is available, Carr, Boller, Dellhome, Cullpepper and a lot of scrubby vets can be had for near vet min and no draft pick, so no team should be willing to give up anything for a back up QB right now because there is more supply than demand. Smith should be glad he is a backup on a good team because he really does not have much else going for him over any of those other guys, other than his vet min salary is a lot less and he knows the playbook and has a pretty firm grip on th clipboard.

I do not know what you saw other than in his very first start as a rookie 3rd string guy on a 9 game skid mark squad, but other than in that game, the guy has played pretty good for a young 5th round pick. Not enough to increase his value, but well enough to keep his job. If he plays well in the preseason he may drive up his value enough to make a trade, but for now no one is going to give up picks for Smith when a comparable guy can be had for free.

[RavensNTerps]

Anderson made the Pro Bowl two seasons ago. Maybe he can revert to that level of performance. It would sure be worth taking a look, if no one else signs him first. Todd Collins may be a better choice, but all we've seen there is a smokescreen article a few weeks ago.

Beck has shown only potential via the last 2009 exhibition game; otherwise, he looked befuddled in a Dolphins uniform. Smith has shown essentially nothing -- he can't see the WRs when trying to stay inside the pocket and that he can't pass accurately when scrambling.




Yeah, right on. Blame me for Smith's disastrous first start against the Seahawks. :261695:And, yes, I fully admit, I entered into a conspiracy with Smith's agent to lobby for a trade during a playoff run to make him look like a total jerk, and into another conspiracy with the other 31 NFL GM's to ignore him as an RFA requiring only a 5th round compensation. I own millions of dollars of stock in the CFL and I expect to see Smith as the next Doug Flutie.

So youre judging a guy in his first start, as a rookie, a fifth round pick, a 3rd string quarterback, playing in one of the hardest road venues in the NFL for any QB and you somehow came to the conclusion that he's garbage?

I thought he actually played decently that game, all things considered. He also threw one of hte most perfect balls I've ever seen a Ravens QB throw.

Then he came back the next week and beat Pittsburgh...

Also Anderson's "pro bowl" year was a complete joke and save for like 4 games that year against truly awful competition he's been way awful....not just mediocre, but way way awful. I'd absolutely, 10000% of the time, rather have Smith as a backup than Anderson. No question about it.

[Jeremiah W]

So youre judging a guy in his first start, as a rookie, a fifth round pick, a 3rd string quarterback, playing in one of the hardest road venues in the NFL for any QB and you somehow came to the conclusion that he's garbage?

I thought he actually played decently that game, all things considered. He also threw one of hte most perfect balls I've ever seen a Ravens QB throw.

Then he came back the next week and beat Pittsburgh...

That game did not count. The steelers really wanted to lose even though they kept most of the starters in the entire game.

[RavenScallywag]

Reports from PFT are that the Cardinals are signing him...

If that's true, good move for D.A. If Leinart doesn't pan out, he's the strong armed QB that would do well in their offense.

[Carey]

I guess that means they are out on Whitehurst, maybe he's going to Seattle now. If that happens im sure Cleveland would be ecstatic to have Clausen fall in their lap.

[Mista T]

Looks like the Cardinals were willing to pay Anderson guaranteed $3+ million, up to $18 million 2 years with incentives. Clearly, Anderson was way out of our price range. :mad: I had been hoping to see a devalued Anderson in the Ravens training camp mix. I really liked it in 2001, when we had Cunningham as a competent vet on the bench who could come in to win a few games during the playoff run and rest the starter.




As to:


Anderson isn't even an upgrade over Beck, much less Troy Smith.


DA would be a far worse option than Troy Smith.


I'd absolutely, 10000% of the time, rather have Smith as a backup than Anderson. No question about it.

"10000% of the time" the other 31 GMs don't agree with the Troy Smith fan club that he has any value in the NFL. With all the QB movement -- Delhomme, Wallace, Carr, Hill, Quinn, Grossman, Anderson, and shortly Whitehurst -- not a nibble on Smith, even though he likely could be had for a sixth or even seventh. The Cards opted to not get the $1 million year Smith tossed in as part of the Boldin deal.

[StingerNLG]

So with DA in Arizona, it seems like they still don't have total faith in Matt Leinart, talk about a possible bust there.

I am not sure the idea was that DA was going there strictly to be a backup.

[Jeremiah W]

Looks like the Cardinals were willing to pay Anderson guaranteed $3+ million, up to $18 million 2 years with incentives. Clearly, Anderson was way out of our price range. :mad: I had been hoping to see a devalued Anderson in the Ravens training camp mix. I really liked it in 2001, when we had Cunningham as a competent vet on the bench who could come in to win a few games during the playoff run and rest the starter.




As to:







"10000% of the time" the other 31 GMs don't agree with the Troy Smith fan club that he has any value in the NFL. With all the QB movement -- Delhomme, Wallace, Carr, Hill, Quinn, Grossman, Anderson, and shortly Whitehurst -- not a nibble on Smith, even though he likely could be had for a sixth or even seventh. The Cards opted to not get the $1 million year Smith tossed in as part of the Boldin deal.

Lady Quinn went for a back up FB and a 2011 6th round pick. The other guys went for less or were UFAs. Just because no one has given up a 5th for Smith does not mean he has less value than those other QBs, he has a higher price tag in a market full of supply of guys like him.

Smith is going to have to play well in preseason to get himself traded and hope someone else gets hurt or stinks, but he was a 5th round pick who just wants to play. Why are you always hating on the guy?

[jonboy79]

Lady Quinn went for a back up FB and a 2011 6th round pick. The other guys went for less or were UFAs. Just because no one has given up a 5th for Smith does not mean he has less value than those other QBs, he has a higher price tag in a market full of supply of guys like him.

Smith is going to have to play well in preseason to get himself traded and hope someone else gets hurt or stinks, but he was a 5th round pick who just wants to play. Why are you always hating on the guy?

Troy Smith has prroved NOTHING in this league compared to the superior in every way Seneca Wallace, who was traded fora Pittance to his previous GM.

NOBODY wants Troy, probably not even the Ravens anymore.

[Jeremiah W]

Troy Smith has prroved NOTHING in this league compared to the superior in every way Seneca Wallace, who was traded fora Pittance to his previous GM.

NOBODY wants Troy, probably not even the Ravens anymore.

Then why tender him? Seneca Wallace is good example of why Troy Smith will be in the NFL for a long time and is a valuable back up QB.

You guys can hate on him all you want but he is our back up QB, not the #3. There are now enough good starting QBs in the NFL that backup level guys are less valuable, but a lot of teams like to have a Troy Smith, Dennis Dixon, Josh Johnson, Seneca Wallace, Bruce Gradkowski, Pat White type on the bench and in the game in certain packages.

I think Smith is one of the better back up QBs in the NFL and one of the best we have had as the #2 guy. He may burn some time outs, but he has also made some plays and thrown some TDs and held down the #2 QB job for a while now. He is a 5th round rfa and his agent should be trying to create a market for him, he could have got the back up job in Clowntown and that would have been a better opportunity for him to play and maybe even cash in like DA. Any guy who does not want to start should not be in the NFL.

I really do not get the negative stuff some of you guys say about him. He has not proven anything? What was he supposed to do other than hold down the 2 spot? Flacco was the 1st round guy, he was the 5th. It is not like Gaither vs Oher for the LT spot, only one of them can play unless the other is hurt. When Smith has played, he did pretty well for a back up QB, well enough that I was not suprised his agent tried to get him a good offer sheet or contract, and may still depending on how the draft shakes out.

Did Smith lose any games that mattered for us? Did any of those wasted time outs cost us a loss or anything? Seriously what is your problem with the guy?

[jonboy79]

Then why tender him? Seneca Wallace is good example of why Troy Smith will be in the NFL for a long time and is a valuable back up QB.

You guys can hate on him all you want but he is our back up QB, not the #3. There are now enough good starting QBs in the NFL that backup level guys are less valuable, but a lot of teams like to have a Troy Smith, Dennis Dixon, Josh Johnson, Seneca Wallace, Bruce Gradkowski, Pat White type on the bench and in the game in certain packages.

I think Smith is one of the better back up QBs in the NFL and one of the best we have had as the #2 guy. He may burn some time outs, but he has also made some plays and thrown some TDs and held down the #2 QB job for a while now. He is a 5th round rfa and his agent should be trying to create a market for him, he could have got the back up job in Clowntown and that would have been a better opportunity for him to play and maybe even cash in like DA. Any guy who does not want to start should not be in the NFL.

I really do not get the negative stuff some of you guys say about him. He has not proven anything? What was he supposed to do other than hold down the 2 spot? Flacco was the 1st round guy, he was the 5th. It is not like Gaither vs Oher for the LT spot, only one of them can play unless the other is hurt. When Smith has played, he did pretty well for a back up QB, well enough that I was not suprised his agent tried to get him a good offer sheet or contract, and may still depending on how the draft shakes out.

Did Smith lose any games that mattered for us? Did any of those wasted time outs cost us a loss or anything? Seriously what is your problem with the guy?



He was absolutely supposed to beat out Boller for the Starter's job Flacco's rookie year. Instead it took a shoulder injury from Boller to almost hand him the job they planned on handing him all preseason. IF he hadn't gotten sick, he may have started and had the opportunity to show some of you what the rest of us know to expect.

[Jeremiah W]

He was absolutely supposed to beat out Boller for the Starter's job Flacco's rookie year. Instead it took a shoulder injury from Boller to almost hand him the job they planned on handing him all preseason. IF he hadn't gotten sick, he may have started and had the opportunity to show some of you what the rest of us know to expect.

That is a lot of speculation.

Smith has 5TD, not a very good completion % of 53.9, but only 1 int and a respectable 79.9 QB rating for his 3 year career.

http://www.nfl.com/players/troysmith/profile?id=SMI764846

The fact that he was in the mix to start in his 2nd year and the Ravens have not brought in a better backup since he has been here along with his numbers convince me that he is a pretty good player and valuable back up.

The important thing is he has convinced the Ravens that he is good enough to be the #2 on a playoff team. I think we can replace him easy enough if another team wants him enough to give us a 5th round pick, but otherwise I am glad he is still the backup.

I also think that with this new WR core he will shine in the preseason enough to maybe get us more than a 5th round pick in the future. We will find out, and I can understand a little doubt, but some of you guys act like Smith has played his way out of a job or played a lot and stunk. He is unproven as a starter, but is proven as a back up and a pro.

[Dont Know]

The fact that he was in the mix to start in his 2nd year and the Ravens have not brought in a better backup since he has been here along with his numbers convince me that he is a pretty good player and valuable back up.

Actually, the team brought in John Beck after Troy Smith joined the team. While Smith has more value as the #2 on game days, Beck to me appears to be the better backup QB.

[Jeremiah W]

Actually, the team brought in John Beck after Troy Smith joined the team. While Smith has more value as the #2 on game days, Beck to me appears to be the better backup QB.

I am not going to argue your opinion, but the fact is Smith was the #2. I just do ot get what Smith has done that so many have such a low opinion of him. It is not like he is backing up Kyle Boller anymore and not even he thinks he should start here.

If they can get a 5th rounder for him and let Beck hold the clipboard I would be fine with that, but it is not like I want to see Smith go. I think he has a lot of value even just running the scout team when we face moblie Qbs.

Also Beck was flat out cut by Miami. They could not even get a future 7th rounder for him like Senneca Wallace. I like him as a back up, but I do not think he is better than Smith.

[psuasskicker]

Actually, the team brought in John Beck after Troy Smith joined the team. While Smith has more value as the #2 on game days, Beck to me appears to be the better backup QB.

It's worth noting that it's very much in question whether or not Smith is the true #2. Smith seems to be listed as the #2 on game days because we have packages directly designed with him. That means, if he were the #3, we'd have to burn a roster spot to use him; while Beck at #3 in the "emergency QB" role opens that roster spot.

I think it's very much in question whether Troy would start or Beck would start if Flacco had to miss games due to injury. I haven't read anything about either one having been declared backup if Flacco goes down on more than a game-by-game basis.

Maybe I just missed it. But if I didn't and it hasn't been said, then it's presumptuous to assume Troy is a true #2...

Also of note: Even if Troy was this past year, that certainly doesn't mean he will be in '10.

- C -

[Rxdoxx]

Another factor that is somewhere in the equation is that Wallace did play some WR. Now he is insistant that he is a QB, but did play some more regular WR the year that Seattle's WR corps was decimated by injuries, besides the other occasional appearances.

Troy has given absolutely no indication he wants anything to ever even look like Randall-El, so on some level, that means less team value than Wallace.

[jonboy79]

It's worth noting that it's very much in question whether or not Smith is the true #2. Smith seems to be listed as the #2 on game days because we have packages directly designed with him. That means, if he were the #3, we'd have to burn a roster spot to use him; while Beck at #3 in the "emergency QB" role opens that roster spot.

I think it's very much in question whether Troy would start or Beck would start if Flacco had to miss games due to injury. I haven't read anything about either one having been declared backup if Flacco goes down on more than a game-by-game basis.

Maybe I just missed it. But if I didn't and it hasn't been said, then it's presumptuous to assume Troy is a true #2...

Also of note: Even if Troy was this past year, that certainly doesn't mean he will be in '10.

- C -
Bingo. I see more value in Troy as a "relief pitcher" then a starter. To me Beck would be the direction to head in if both teams had a week to prepare.


And what Troy did was go an entire preseason without completing consecutive passes. He "won" the QB competition with a half in which he threw five passes. He has done NOTHING to show promise, not the other way around.