Rand Paul - This will be good.

[Galen Sevinne]

I am exuberant that Rand Paul won the primary in Kentucky. First of all, another blow against Mitch McConnell and his out-of-touch leadership but secondly, finally there is a true Libertarian in the limelight...and what a limelight this will be.

This sets up the GOP vs. the Tea Baggers on stage. Could there be a more interesting drama to watch? I am still hoping for the Obama/Palin debates! But this one should provide for some great fodder.

Rand Paul is unable to deny his belief that private business should be allowed to segregate based on race or preference etc. While he won't say it on record, it is clear he essentially supports the notion of segregation. That the Civil Rights act of 1964 overreached in providing civil liberties to all.

While there is nothing he has said to indicate he is a racist - and I am thinking he is not - he does not approve of existing restrictions placed on business to prevent discrimination which logically would lead to discrimination.

Maybe he can pull this off in the south but there is going to be a great national debate that I believe will essentially pigeon-hole the Tea Bagger movement as adhering to a belief structure that logically could lead to segregation. As long as Rand continues to speak on behalf of the Baggers, they have to own this view of his unless they on the record creating a distinction. Thanks Rand...Thanks Republican primary voters of Kentucky. Oh how...Mitch McConnell must be banging his head on the wall. Let the drama begin.

[Galen Sevinne]

Just perused the sensible blogs out there and wow...this is really blowing up for Rand.

Couple thoughts. Rand has come out and admitted that going on the Maddow show was a bad political move. You think so, Rand?

No doubt. In Maddow you have a pitbull of an inteviewer. A staunch defender of civil rights. A Rhodes Scholar and a PhD. in Political Science at Oxford. This is not Glenn Beck. She is extremely bright, highly educated which of course the Right will frame as an elitist in attempt to disarm what is always quite apparent, at least to me.

Conservative arguments around the idea of the size of government and in the extreme view, that of a Libertarian like Rand Paul, just can't hold up when debated against someone like Maddow who is extremely bright and knows the limits of the libertarian argument around government size. The interview with Maddow and Rand Paul illustrates just this. She manuevered him right into a corner where he either had to continue to promote the possibility of segregation and discrimination or he had to essentially disavow himself from his espoused Libertarian views. Rand chose the former and not the latter and now he is in trouble unless he can come out and find a way to bridge the two ideas of 1. Private business can choose to discriminate via 1st amendment Rights and 2. He believes in equality of opportunity for all race, gender and affilitation.

Maddow exposed this paradox that he really will be unable to mend. Where Libertarian philosphy goes into the shitter is with the assumption that man is good. Sure business should have the ability to make their own choices but when they are allowed to do that, there will be a significant percentage that will make uncivil choices out of greed and ignorance. The functioning of society relies on civility...libertarianism while maybe good-hearted, fails to recognize that human nature is dark and often seeks individual comfort over the comfort of the group and thus, fails civility.

Does the Tea Party follow this guy down this dead end?

Even Jim Demint and Eric Cantor have refused to comment on Rand's stand. That speaks volumes.

I wanted Rand to win because I wanted to see him have to defens his views in a wider stage but wow! Just 48 hours in and this guy is in serious trouble.

[CR_Dingley]

I see Rand Paul wining the primary as a great thing. I disagree with him on almost everything, and agree on a few things. I see him losing in Nov. and it might not be close. You cannot win in kentucky and want to abolish medicare and social Security. And while i agree with what i know of his stance on isreal you do not win elections by touting these things, It's unfortunate(not saying i want him to win, but it would be nice to have actually conversations about Isreal and 9/11 ) But that's american politics. My prediction the Democrat wins.

[Galen Sevinne]

Well that didn't take long Rand Paul to distance himself from Rand Paul :laugh:

His latest stance on the Federal Govt. involvement in private business;


"Civil Rights legislation that has been affirmed by our courts gives the Federal government the right to ensure that private businesses don't discriminate based on race. Dr. Paul supports those powers."

Pretty lame really...One would think he could continue to support his own philosophy in public for more than 24 hours.

[POPSinPA]

Well that didn't take long Rand Paul to distance himself from Rand Paul :laugh:

His latest stance on the Federal Govt. involvement in private business;

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Pretty lame really...One would think he could continue to support his own philosophy in public for more than 24 hours.


And this makes him different from every other politician in the country how?

They all lie, I can tell because their lips are moving.

[Greg]

Rand Paul is unable to deny his belief that private business should be allowed to segregate based on race or preference etc. While he won't say it on record, it is clear he essentially supports the notion of segregation. That the Civil Rights act of 1964 overreached in providing civil liberties to all.


He's right.

If a private businessman wants to behave boorishly that should be his perogative. He would only be hurting himself by lowering his client and employment pool as opposed to his competitors.

While the government should be color blind it should not require private citizens to hold any particular view.

Forgive me for being for liberty and freedom, even if it means somebody is free to be an a--hole. If we applied a law against be an a--hole more completely a lot of you posting here would be gone.

[AirFlacco]

How about this guy in Ozzie's home state.

I bet Oz likes him.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jU7fhIO7DG0