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TL24x7
06-21-2010, 10:10 AM
The Baltimore Ravens have agreed in principle to a three-year deal with rookie DT Arthur Jones, executive vice president/general manager Ozzie Newsome announced Monday morning.

Jones was selected out of Syracuse in the fifth round (157th overall) of the 2010 NFL Draft. He was the Ravens’ second pick in the round, following WR David Reed (156th overall).

A four-year letterman who started 32 of 44 games played, Jones totaled 145 tackles (85 solo), 38.5 tackles for loss (-136 yards), 6.5 sacks (-61 yards) and four fumble recoveries during his career. His 38.5 career TFL are the most in Syracuse history by an interior defensive lineman, while his 145 career stops tie for 10th on SU’s all-time list for tackles by a down lineman.

The 6-foot-3, 305-pound Jones was elected as a team captain for the Orange during his senior season after earning All-Big East first-team honors in 2008.

Greg
06-21-2010, 10:40 AM
It is refreshing they are not waiting until the week before camp to get these done, but they still are taking their time. They need to get cracking early to knock these things out of the way. We should be market setters, not market responders.

chicagoravensfan
06-21-2010, 11:01 AM
So I guess David Reed gets that plus $1

psuasskicker
06-21-2010, 03:26 PM
Meh, I'm not worried about it too much. Without a first round pick this year, we shouldn't have much in the way of controversy. It's pretty rare you hear of anyone outside R1 holding out, and as long as they're in for camp that's what I care most about.

BTW: Market leaders typically tend to pay more, so I'm okay with us not being market leading in that sense...

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AirFlacco
06-22-2010, 12:23 AM
He's a lower pick. Last year the two bottom picks didn't make the team - Drew and Peerman.

I'd be really excited if it were Kindle or Cody. Oher held out a week or two
last year and got an extra $3M or so.

It would be nice to see Ravens pro-active with their top picks and wrap them up before camp.

elland
06-22-2010, 04:26 AM
He's a lower pick. Last year the two bottom picks didn't make the team - Drew and Peerman.

I'd be really excited if it were Kindle or Cody. Oher held out a week or two
last year and got an extra $3M or so.
It would be nice to see Ravens pro-active with their top picks and wrap them up before camp.

I know the FO wait until the last moment, and they did that last year too, but surprised to hear that there was a holdout last year and did he really got + 3 mill? Do you have a source..

I thougth Ngata was our latest holdout.. and it was a day or two.

AirFlacco
06-22-2010, 06:26 AM
Just my memory and you know what they say about memories at my
age-lol.

I'll look it up but I just remember Oher getting a couple of mill over the slotted
amount. That's why it doesn't do anyone any good to hold out. They are still gonna get
the slotted amount. Each pick from the first to the last gets a slotted amount and Oher's
agent got him a little extra.

I also remember Oher said he felt that he let the team down by not reporting
on time but did what his agent instructed. A lot of guys here were impressed with
his saying that about the team.

I'm sure he got a little extra but will look it up.

Thanks.

AirFlacco
06-22-2010, 06:42 AM
Here you go man. Article just says other than Mason he was the last to
sign and attend camp in 09. I'm pretty sure that was a few days if not a week
or two late.


Tony or MoJo or someone can correct me here but I'm pretty sure he got an increase
like $3M, I think.

http://ebonybird.com/2009/08/02/michael-oher-officially-a-raven/

Here is his contract status. He got $13M which I think is $3M over the slotted amount but
someone correct me on that.


http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?id=5182&sport=NFL

Stealthbirds80
06-22-2010, 08:56 AM
He's a lower pick. Last year the two bottom picks didn't make the team - Drew and Peerman.

I'd be really excited if it were Kindle or Cody. Oher held out a week or two
last year and got an extra $3M or so.

It would be nice to see Ravens pro-active with their top picks and wrap them up before camp.

This maybe an unpopular thought, but I think this year all of our picks make the team (may except Harewood=P Squad). Jones was a 2nd rounder projected player and before he had gotten injured possibly a 1st rounder in the previous draft (2009?). That backend of our draft is akin to us possibly taking a couple of Dannell Ellerbes. Should have been higher, but a steal none the less type of players.

AirFlacco
06-22-2010, 09:23 AM
I agree and hope they all make it. I've read that Harewood is a project and could make the practice squad like Drew did last year.

I liked Peerman last year but he got caught in a numbers game @ RB.
Cleve picked him up and then released him.

But all these guys could make the team except, perhaps, Harewood.

trailhiker85
06-22-2010, 09:28 AM
This maybe an unpopular thought, but I think this year all of our picks make the team (may except Harewood=P Squad). Jones was a 2nd rounder projected player and before he had gotten injured possibly a 1st rounder in the previous draft (2009?). That backend of our draft is akin to us possibly taking a couple of Dannell Ellerbes. Should have been higher, but a steal none the less type of players.

Yeah, it'll be interesting to see who makes the final cut, particularly along the DL. I mean, if Cody and Jones BOTH make the team ....well, I guess we'll see!

AirFlacco
06-22-2010, 11:40 AM
RAVENS SIGN PITTA according to NFL source and Aaron Wilson. He got between $390,000 - $490,000
for 3 years. He was a 4th round pick.

Pitta will be an important player - even this year.

IN OZ WE TRUST!



http://talk.baltimoresun.com/showthread.php?t=254599

psuasskicker
06-22-2010, 11:55 AM
Tony or MoJo or someone can correct me here but I'm pretty sure he got an increase
like $3M, I think.

Don't have the time, but this is easy. Look up the contract the pick before and after him got and that's a good gauge. You can also look up the same guy from last year but you'd have to do that for each spot. Reality is, last year there was a pretty big increase across the board vs. the year before. Oher may have gotten $3MM more than the same pick in '08, but he definitely didn't get $3MM above what he "should" have gotten just cause he held out.

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effo5231
06-22-2010, 12:22 PM
Round 1 Pick 22: Percy Harvin-five-year, $12.05 million contract. The deal includes $8.425 million guaranteed. Another $2.2 million is available through incentives. 2010: $395,000, 2011: $655,000 million, 2012: $915,000, 2013: $1.55 million, 2014: Free Agent

Round 1 Pick 23: Michael Oher-$13.795 million contract. The deal includes $7.8 million guaranteed. 2009: $310,000 (+ $940,000 roster bonus), 2010: $395,000 (+ $4.7 million option bonus due in March), 2011: $630,000, 2012: $865,000, 2013: $1.685 million, 2014: Free Agent

Round 1 Pick 24: Peria Jerry-five-year, $10.35 million contract. The deal includes $7.55 million guaranteed. Another $2.9 million is available through incentives. 2010: $395,000, 2011: $695,000, 2012: $845,000, 2013: $905,000, 2014: Free Agent

Interesting... Oher's contract is worth more than Harvin's at face value, but Harvin can actually earn about a million more than Oher if he meets his incentives. As an offensive lineman, Michael doesn't really have a way to build incentives into his contract so it's base value is higher, while his overall earning potential is right in line with his draft spot.

psuasskicker
06-22-2010, 12:30 PM
Interesting... Oher's contract is worth more than Harvin's at face value, but Harvin can actually earn about a million more than Oher if he meets his incentives. As an offensive lineman, Michael doesn't really have a way to build incentives into his contract so it's base value is higher, while his overall earning potential is right in line with his draft spot.

A lot of times, skill position players have easy-to-reach incentives in there which basically protects the team from the guy being a total bust who can't get on the field (injury or suckage) while it's tougher to write that in for the grinding players. I would bet that by the end of his rookie deal, Harvin will have earned all his incentives without problem.

Looks like Oher's slotted right where he should be.

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effo5231
06-22-2010, 12:43 PM
Looks like Oher's slotted right where he should be.


Agreed.

AirFlacco
06-22-2010, 05:36 PM
Agreed. Here are all the guarantees from nfl.com.

Harvn's was more @ $8.4M guaranteed plus the incentives

Oher was @ 7.82M guaranteed right where it should be

the next 3 are just under Oher's and are all in their slotted amounts.

BTW, look at Stafford's - the #1 pick @ $41M guaranteed - $70M before guarantees.


[url]http://www.nfl.com/draft/story?id=09000d5d810d9ec2&template=with-video-with-comments&conf

So the point is, doesn't do you any good to hold out because you're
gonna make the slotted amount anyway and that's why Ozzie takes his time,
but I could have sworn I read where Oher made a little more holding out.

Guess not.

Getting old sucks.

Sgt CouchPotato
06-22-2010, 05:54 PM
i'm hoping to run into arthur's brother jon at a game sometime....one of my fav. ufc fighters