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TL24x7
03-08-2007, 11:12 AM
The Ravens and Bills agreed to a trade Thursday that will send running back Willis McGahee to Baltimore in exchange for the team's third and seventh-round picks in this year's draft, along with the Ravens' third-round pick in 2008, league sources tell ESPN.com's Michael Smith.

link (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2791831)

ClericBlackDave
03-08-2007, 11:12 AM
According to ESPN.com's Michael Smith


This years 3rd and 7th, and next year's 3rd for McGahee.


No word on a contract extension.


Check out espn.com


I think its a steal. We didn't lose a 2nd rounder, and we stand to get some 3rd/4th rounders in compensatory picks for FA's we lost.

LBoogy
03-08-2007, 11:16 AM
Very exciting....not sure about 2 third round picks though. Oh well. Hopefully we'll get a 3rd round comp for AD next year.

F Angelos
03-08-2007, 11:17 AM
The Ravens and Bills agreed to a trade Thursday that will send running back Willis McGahee to Baltimore in exchange for the team's third and seventh-round picks in this year's draft, along with the Ravens' third-round pick in 2008, league sources tell ESPN.com's Michael Smith.

link (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2791831)

Whaddaya think? The Ravens feel like they suck at 3rd rd picks so what the heck?

pyite32
03-08-2007, 11:20 AM
The Ravens and Bills agreed to a trade Thursday that will send running back Willis McGahee to Baltimore in exchange for the team's third and seventh-round picks in this year's draft, along with the Ravens' third-round pick in 2008, league sources tell ESPN.com's Michael Smith

Is it me or did we sell the farm to get this guy?

TL24x7
03-08-2007, 11:22 AM
I keep coming back to McNair for a fourth and this exchange seems a bit rich. But I do think the Ravens are already counting on compensatory picks for this year and next so it seems ok at this point.

Of course it all hinges on McGahee outperforming Jamal and the terms of the contract once they are announced.

PurpleRulz
03-08-2007, 11:25 AM
We'll more than likely get a 3rd round pick in 2008 for AD as AD signed one of the top five contracts. As for this year's 3rd, it is at the bottom of the round, so it is almost a 4th round pick. As stated, we typically don't do well with our 3rd and 4th round pick. When you fill out your draft boards, just insert Willis MaGahee's name as the 3rd round pick. I would take Willis over any RB not named Adrian Peterson in this draft, and that includes Lynch.

We have our RB for the next 4 years (especially beyond the 30 and over purge).

Look for us to sign FB, Daniel Shelton.

RustonRifle
03-08-2007, 11:26 AM
I'd like to see the contract terms before I make a call on what kind of deal it is.

If I were a Bills fan I would have wanted more than a very low third and seventh this season and third next. I'm optomistic that WM will have his best season as I think the Raven O-line is much better than Buffalos.

That's allot to give up for a one year rental and I've never been a fan of Drew Rosenhaus.:(

section553
03-08-2007, 11:34 AM
I think the price was relatively cheap for a young running back as talented as McGahee. We could have a top young RB locked up for years to come.

MoK55
03-08-2007, 11:35 AM
Im Happy its Offical i thought the longer this went on we were gonna get screwed. Espically since Jamal signed. McGahee has to be an upgrade over Jamal.

UKRavenStockers
03-08-2007, 11:36 AM
Makes sense to me.

The Bills wanted a 2nd rounder and we weren't gonna give that. For what McGahee can offer if he actually gets the motivation in Baltimore that he didn't in Buffalo then two thirds could be a bargain, he has tremendous upside and only three years on him. This is a wait and see deal and right now there isn't a winner or loser in this draft immediately, we don't feel the bite of the 3rd next year and for this year we've given up a 7th (irrelevant) and a 3rd (McGahee's better than any back we're going to get in the 3rd this year) for a guy that Buffalo wanted shot of.

This deal makes sense and for right now is balanced and will tip one way or t'other depending upon how McGahee pans out.

Gwaihir
03-08-2007, 11:39 AM
But is he better than any tackle we could have gotten in the third?

GreenWave52
03-08-2007, 11:46 AM
I keep coming back to McNair for a fourth and this exchange seems a bit rich. But I do think the Ravens are already counting on compensatory picks for this year and next so it seems ok at this point.

Of course it all hinges on McGahee outperforming Jamal and the terms of the contract once they are announced.

I agree that the real value of the deal hinges on the contract.

I disagree that 2 3rds seems rich when comparing ti to McNair. First of all the Titans had to cut McNair, the Bills could of kept McGahee. Secondly, and more importantly, Willis is only 25 and has played just 3 NFL seasons. He is just entering his prime while McNair (although I love him) is in his twilight years.

And to PurpleRulz, you are right about our struggles with 3rd rounders but totally off base with 4th rounders. After the 1st round I think the 4th round is the most consistently successful place for us. I wonder if there is correlation between the fact we do the best on the opening round of both day 1 and day 2. After those rounds I'm not sure, I want to say it was either the 6th or UDFAs.

UKRavenStockers
03-08-2007, 11:52 AM
But is he better than any tackle we could have gotten in the third?

Erm, yes.

So far as I can tell there's immediate impact from two tackles in this draft (Thomas and Brown) and possibly Sears, but no tackle in the third round offers anything immediately to this team that's returning what? 18 starters? that is anything close to the upgrade that McGahee can.

PurpleRulz
03-08-2007, 11:56 AM
I agree that the real value of the deal hinges on the contract.

I disagree that 2 3rds seems rich when comparing ti to McNair. First of all the Titans had to cut McNair, the Bills could of kept McGahee. Secondly, and more importantly, Willis is only 25 and has played just 3 NFL seasons. He is just entering his prime while McNair (although I love him) is in his twilight years.

And to PurpleRulz, you are right about our struggles with 3rd rounders but totally off base with 4th rounders. After the 1st round I think the 4th round is the most consistently successful place for us. I wonder if there is correlation between the fact we do the best on the opening round of both day 1 and day 2. After those rounds I'm not sure, I want to say it was either the 6th or UDFAs.


Okay. We have had recent success in the 4th with Jason Brown and Demetrius Williams, so I will give you that.

As for this trade, the 3rd round pick is at the end of the round and pretty much a 4th. The 7th rounder is near the end and four moves from "Mr. Irrelevant." We have success with UDFAs and maybe, just maybe, there is some insight to what our comp picks will be in 2007 and 2008.

Yet another thought is that we could be looking into making a trade to net a 3rd rounder. Who knows, but in Ozzie I Trust.

LBoogy
03-08-2007, 12:01 PM
Okay. We have had recent success in the 4th with Jason Brown and Demetrius Williams, so I will give you that.

Hartwell, J.J., Ovie, and Mulitalo were all 4th round picks as well.

GreenWave52
03-08-2007, 12:03 PM
Here is the only clip of McGahee on Youtube not involving his knee injury. I'm looking for more highlights. THis one shows a level of breakout speed we haven't seen in a long, long time.

Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-IwPqfwR2o&NR

PurpleRulz- We also got Ed Hartwell in the 4th that I remember off the top of my head but I thinkthere are 2 or 3 more productive guys as well.

Gwaihir
03-08-2007, 12:09 PM
Yeah, I don't know. I just don't like giving up two thirds for this guy, especially if his contract turns out to be outlandish. Maybe we haven't done that well in the third round over the years, but that tells me we are due for some blockbusters judging from the way the rest of the draft usually turns out for us. I just wish there was some way to know who the Ravens would have taken with the 92nd pick this year and wherever our pick will be next year, that would be the best way to judge the trade. However, I do believe in "In Oz We Trust", and I will so on this matter also. After all, he has a lot more inside information on all the parameters/ramifications of this deal than any of us. I know he wouldn't let himself be taken advantage of.

Stanley02
03-08-2007, 12:10 PM
I think this is a great trade. We couldn't depend on getting a quality RB in the draft. Is McGahee and RB that depends on a FB blocking for him or does he run out of single back sets?

section553
03-08-2007, 12:12 PM
But is he better than any tackle we could have gotten in the third?

yes

Gwaihir
03-08-2007, 12:34 PM
OK, I read Tony's link to the Press Release and watched GreenWave52's video find on youtube. If Ray and Ed can get this guy motivated and make him happy, and he can show anything remotely similar to that video clip, this could be a BIG Deal. Oh yeah, he has to stay healthy, too.

Ravenous52Raven
03-08-2007, 12:36 PM
Welcome aboard Willis! Nice change of pace running back from the Dancing machine(don't get me wrong thanks for the memories Jamal)! I look foward to the new style type of running game from the Ravens with Willis! Hopefully over the next few seasons we will know what Willis will be talking about !

WM your newest Baltimore Raven:kewl:

RavensInBrazil
03-08-2007, 12:44 PM
This is a great trade. I'm really looking forward to what McGahee can do for our team, and I see great things ahead of us. Matter of fact, I can already see Boller and McGahee leading us to the SB in 2008 (:

RavenScallywag
03-08-2007, 12:54 PM
I think, if you include potential comp picks and really bank on him being better behind our OL, you're looking at a decent move...

I'd refer to it like buying a newish car. It's not that you made a good deal, you just didn't get ripped off so bad.

GreenWave52
03-08-2007, 01:10 PM
I just wanted to throw in hear a couple of excerpts from Jeremy Green's blog on Espn.com

This first part is about Jamal vs. Willis (and a little about Pashos)


The team also waived long-time starting running back Jamal Lewis, who opted to sign a one-year deal with the division-rival Cleveland Browns. Nobody in Baltimore is going to fret having to face Lewis two times in 2007; he has been average at best since 2003. Lewis averaged 3.4 and 3.6 yards per carry, respectively, during the last two seasons behind an offensive line that was much better than the one the Browns will trot out this season. Lewis can't make defenders miss at this point in his career, so if the Browns don't open up holes for him, that yards-per-carry average will drop once again.

The Ravens reacted quickly to the loss of Lewis by trading for Buffalo RB Willis McGahee, a running back with a lot more versatility than Lewis. McGahee can run inside and outside, is a lot quicker to the hole and can make people miss. It's a huge upgrade for the Ravens, because Lewis was basically a three-yards-and-a-cloud-of-dust runner at this point. He was a sitting duck for tacklers, while McGahee is much more of a moving target.

Baltimore also lost right tackle Tony Pashos to the Jacksonville Jaguars. Pashos developed with the Ravens, and it always hurts to lose a guy you have brought a long and turned into a quality starter, but he is not an elite tackle and will be replaced through the draft or with a mid-level free agent like Anthony Clement, Marc Colombo or Jordan Black. While there could be some drop-off, it won't be significant.

This second part is about our FO:

The Ravens are like the college version of the USC Trojans when it comes to acquiring football players. Some guys might leave a little sooner than you would like, but you can count on them reloading. Watching Baltimore on draft day is like watching USC on national signing day: The overall number of acquisitions might be smaller, but don't be surprised if the Ravens hit on about 95 percent of them.

This team has the best personnel staff in the business, and because of that, you won't see me shedding any tears for the Ravens this offseason. They will reload in the draft and with mid-level free agents once the market settles. Make no mistake about it -- this is still the team to beat in the AFC North.
I think a lot of our fans are spoiled and don't realize how good we have it with Ozzie and Co. If not the best I think our FO is clearly top 3. I also loved the USC comparison.

Gwaihir
03-08-2007, 01:13 PM
This is a great trade. I'm really looking forward to what McGahee can do for our team, and I see great things ahead of us. Matter of fact, I can already see Boller and McGahee leading us to the SB in 2008 (:

HEAR! HEAR! :beer1:

:hammer:
:229031_confused2:

Art-Florida
03-08-2007, 01:40 PM
Somebody hand me a phillips cause I think we just got screwed. Yeah, yeah, I know, the 'Wizard of Oz' and all that crap, but what was Ozzie thinking?

A third AND another one next year? The Bills wanted Willis out and might have settled for a lot less. That's not the main reason I feel like Han Solo when he said, "I have a bad feeling about this." We have holes to fill in the draft and we just lost 1/3 of our first-day budget. We blew a wad on McNair and are about to enter the land of Deja vu.


One can only hope that Willis leaves his atitude in New York state, and picks up the yardage that Jamal left on the field the pas few years. I certainly hope I am wrong on this one.

fthestoolers
03-08-2007, 01:42 PM
Welcome Willis! :thumbup:


http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A9gnMicCZ_BF.wIB3hKjzbkF;_ylu=X3oDMTBsNXZtZnJjBHNlYwNwcm9mBHZ0aWQDSTk5OV83Mw--/SIG=11u68ldsk/EXP=1173469314/**http%3A//www.bolttalk.com/images/mcgahee.jpg

festivus
03-08-2007, 01:43 PM
Level headed and fair. Thanks for sharing.

The trade was great. In the one back sets we will be using with McGahee, we will miss Mughelli less and see more of our fine receiving corps. *And* we have in McGahee a rb more suited to our OL, as it gets younger and quicker.

Like with our acquisition of McNair last year, it looks like Ozzie had been planning it all along, and it feels like we are watching a magician at work.

:hammer: indeed.

festivus
03-08-2007, 01:45 PM
Welcome Willis! :thumbup:

Fthestoolers, excellent name and excellent image choice. Let me try:

http://www.bolttalk.com/images/mcgahee.jpg

Not sure why it didn't work for you.

:toast:

jonboy79
03-08-2007, 01:52 PM
We have holes to fill in the draft and we just lost 1/3 of our first-day budget. We blew a wad on McNair and are about to enter the land of Deja vu. .

Ok we used one first day pick this year on one of our biggest holes. How does that take us a step backwards this year? The third we lost for next year will be supplemented by AD's compensation. Quick question, who is the best Raven that is still a Raven and was drafted by us in rd 3?

Gwaihir
03-08-2007, 01:56 PM
Somebody hand me a phillips cause I think we just got screwed. Yeah, yeah, I know, the 'Wizard of Oz' and all that crap, but what was Ozzie thinking?

A third AND another one next year? The Bills wanted Willis out and might have settled for a lot less. That's not the main reason I feel like Han Solo when he said, "I have a bad feeling about this." We have holes to fill in the draft and we just lost 1/3 of our first-day budget. We blew a wad on McNair and are about to enter the land of Deja vu.


One can only hope that Willis leaves his atitude in New York state, and picks up the yardage that Jamal left on the field the pas few years. I certainly hope I am wrong on this one.


I feel the same way, but am getting over it. I do trust the Oz-Man and that he knows best.

donnaj
03-08-2007, 01:57 PM
I really like this trade and the potential of seeing our running game take flight. Too many times this season I saw holes open and close as Jamal danced in front of them. It was hard for many ravens fans to accept that he had lost the burst we saw during his 2000 yard season, but I have been hoping that the FO would decide to take our running game in a new direction from the day they finally cut Jamal. I was hoping that Ozzie would get this deal worked out with the Bills and Drew Rosenhaus so that we could add some explosiveness to our offense. I think this addition adds quite a bit to our total offense, having an explosive threat in the running game open s up the passing game for McNair even more and now that we have three definite threats at receiver I see lots more points and yards going up on the board for us next season. I hope that we can make a few adjustments to the line, especially at Center and right Guard. I am uncertain about Terry at RT, but was surprised at the success he had at LT while JO was out, so that gives me optimism at his potential at RT. I think our weak spots on the line remain Flynn and Vincent - let Brown, Chester have a shot at the position and hopefully a new draft selection can make an impact on the line as well at either guard or tackle if need be.

festivus
03-08-2007, 02:01 PM
We have holes to fill in the draft and we just lost 1/3 of our first-day budget.

On filling one of those holes.

Step back from the ledge and come back inside, Art, it's not as bad as you say. The only major hole left is at RT, and we'll find someone serviceable to take the place of Hall of Famer Tony Pashos, you'll see.

Cheers!

PurpleRulz
03-08-2007, 02:12 PM
http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm

PFT is reporting that this deal is contingent on us signing Willis to a long term deal by March 13. So basically, based on this, this deal is not really official until this contract gets done and if it does not get done, the trade will not happen.

Can someone elaborate.

Gabrosin
03-08-2007, 02:13 PM
Welcome to Baltimore Willis. Get your contract done so you can make a nice long stay.

I'm a little skeptical about this, but the fact is we got a talented RB and filled a major need. For those of you thinking that Buffalo would take less, I'm sure they would have, if we were the only ones bidding. Factor in other teams like the Titans and the price goes up. To get him without spending a second was a very good deal. Obviously we'll have to see how big a hit we'll take on the contract side. Ozzie knows what he's doing and I expect good things.

As previously mentioned, the most exciting part is that we'll have a RB who works well out of a three-receiver set without needing a fullback to clear the way. McGahee, Mason, Clayton, Williams, and Heap are a pretty solid set of skill players to have on the field at once.

festivus
03-08-2007, 02:19 PM
http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm

PFT is reporting that this deal is contingent on us signing Willis to a long term deal by March 13. So basically, based on this, this deal is not really official until this contract gets done and if it does not get done, the trade will not happen.

Can someone elaborate.

As I wrote in another thread - I am reasonably confident the deal is already basically in place, because that conversation would have informed the FO's maneuvers over the past few days.

It is possible there are still wrinkles to work out but I expect it's basically done. Structuring the deal with Buffalo this way gives the Ravens a few more days to finish dealing with McGahee/Rosenhaus without worrying the Bills are going to deal McGahee to someone else.

FlimFlamMan
03-08-2007, 02:35 PM
Per Profootbaltalk.com:

We're told that the Ravens and running back Willis McGahee are very close to agreeing on a seven-year deal worth $40.12 million.

As we previously explained, McGahee will receive $7.5 million to sign, an initial option bonus of $6 million, and a second option bonus of $1.5 million. The salaries are $595,000 in 2007, $605,000 in 2008, $620,000 in 2009, $3.6 million in 2010, $6.0 million in 2011, $6.5 million in 2012, and $7.2 million in 2013.

Since McGahee was due to earn $2.155 million in 2007, the deal is essentially a six-year extension worth $37.965 million.

If the Ravens cut McGahee before the back-end salaries kick in, he will earn a total of $20.42 million over four years.

Gabrosin
03-08-2007, 02:45 PM
Seems like a reasonable contract. BmoreRavor, maybe you can confirm something for me. If McGahee is cut early, we take a cap hit equivalent to his remaining signing bonus distributed over the length of the contract. Does that include option bonuses?

Basically, it seems that the Ravens guaranteed McGahee's services for about four years. If we release him at any point beyond that, we will realize a cap savings rather than a cap hit, because his annual salary will be more than the remainder of his signing bonus. That's not precisely true if option bonus cap hits are also spread across the life of the contract.

His cap number in 2008 will be high (600k salary + 6 mil bonus + about 1 mil signing bonus hit), but not crippling. The other years (up until 2011) he'll be a relative bargain.

fthestoolers
03-08-2007, 02:47 PM
Fthestoolers, excellent name and excellent image choice. Let me try:

http://www.bolttalk.com/images/mcgahee.jpg

Not sure why it didn't work for you.

:toast:


Thanks for the help! :thumbup: :beer1: :beer:

donnaj
03-08-2007, 03:16 PM
My first concern when reading the details of this contract are as follows:
If the bonus factors into the cap, I am worried about being able to resign Suggs and Bart in the next two years. I would hate for Bart or Suggs to go the way of AD. I know the Ravens FO has said signing Suggs is their #1 priority before this time next year, but I hope that we don't cripple ourselves in cap room by backloading too much. I think that with Bart's next deal he will be looking to see the $$$ like AD found and I honestly don't know if we will have it to keep him. I hope so, but we also will have to sign a corner, since Samari is spent and I believe Ronnie Prude's contract is up in '08, not sure about Cory Ivey's deal. Even if we sign another corner this year in the draft, we still have to find the cap room to sign and keep him, not to mention we have to have enough cap room to cultivate a QB to replace McNair in the next two years, Kyle's contract is up next year, so what will we do then?

jonboy79
03-08-2007, 03:33 PM
That contract would have a reasonable cap hit for 3 years. that is essentially the same contract that Reed got.

RavenScallywag
03-08-2007, 03:53 PM
Prude is coming off his first year...he's going to be here through 09 unless we cut or trade him.

There's a lot of other things factoring into the cap coming up. JO might be retiring this year or next year, which would give us some MAJOR relief in money terms. Also, Ray's coming up on the end of his deal soon, and I get the feeling unless he comes down from his high demands, we may soon see a Ravens team without Mr Ray Ray!

highwater
03-08-2007, 03:54 PM
A third AND another one next year? The Bills wanted Willis out and might have settled for a lot less.

I'm with Art on this -- I'm okay with picking up McGahee, but the price seems a little high. Two third round picks? This guy wasn't much better than Jamal last season. I almost always trust Ozzie, but two 3s and a 7 seems like more than we should have given up for this guy.

But of course I'll be pulling for him like crazy.

HDDream
03-08-2007, 03:59 PM
Yeah, I'm in the same boat. He's definitely an upgrade, but an upgrade worth the price that he cost in both drafts pick and contract? That's a whole other story.

RavensNTerps
03-08-2007, 04:06 PM
Yeah, I'm in the same boat. He's definitely an upgrade, but an upgrade worth the price that he cost in both drafts pick and contract? That's a whole other story.

Rams fan, circa 1999:

"we traded a 2nd AND 5th round pick for Marshall Faulk? What the hell were they thinking??"

Gwaihir
03-08-2007, 04:29 PM
Rams fan, circa 1999:

"we traded a 2nd AND 5th round pick for Marshall Faulk? What the hell were they thinking??"

I DO like that comparison!

Raveninwoodlawn
03-08-2007, 04:32 PM
McGahee doesn't have anywhere near the track record that Faulk had

HDDream
03-08-2007, 04:36 PM
Rams fan, circa 1999:

"we traded a 2nd AND 5th round pick for Marshall Faulk? What the hell were they thinking??"

Actually I remember that trade and the thought at the time was exactly the opposite. It was what the hell were the Colts thinking making that trade? Most everyone thought the Rams stole him. Oh, and Faulk had already put up at least two great seasons when the Colts traded for him- two more than McGahee has put up. So, please, don't try and compare this to the Faulk trade. It's not even in the same ballpark.

Heap86
03-08-2007, 05:35 PM
For those concerned about Suggs, I think we will be fine.

A few vets will be gone after this year, which we expected. Guys like Mason, Rolle, Flynn, Anderson and JO will likely be gone. We should have more than enough to lock up the young impact guys like Suggs. Unless guys like Mason, Rolle or Anderson have break-out years, I doubt they are in the Ravens future plans.

Even though losing AD hurts, he is definatly on the cusp of his downside, while Suggs is in his prime.

This is our year to win the big one, if we do or not there will still be some big changes afterward.

PurpleRulz
03-08-2007, 05:40 PM
My first concern when reading the details of this contract are as follows:
If the bonus factors into the cap, I am worried about being able to resign Suggs and Bart in the next two years. I would hate for Bart or Suggs to go the way of AD. I know the Ravens FO has said signing Suggs is their #1 priority before this time next year, but I hope that we don't cripple ourselves in cap room by backloading too much. I think that with Bart's next deal he will be looking to see the $$$ like AD found and I honestly don't know if we will have it to keep him. I hope so, but we also will have to sign a corner, since Samari is spent and I believe Ronnie Prude's contract is up in '08, not sure about Cory Ivey's deal. Even if we sign another corner this year in the draft, we still have to find the cap room to sign and keep him, not to mention we have to have enough cap room to cultivate a QB to replace McNair in the next two years, Kyle's contract is up next year, so what will we do then?

In two years, players like Mason, McNair, Ray, JO, Flynn, Vincent, Rolle will all be gone. Those guys are clogging the top end of the cap. We will have plenty of room to extend Suggs and Bart Scott. I am not concerned with Willis's contract. Plus, it is kind of simply a 3 or 4 year deal. If we get 3 good/great years out of McGahee, then that makes this trade all the worth it.

Plus, we can now wait until next year's draft to get a RB to develop behind Willis. The 2008 draft class is going to be filled and deep with RB talent.

highwater
03-08-2007, 06:43 PM
Rams fan, circa 1999:

"we traded a 2nd AND 5th round pick for Marshall Faulk? What the hell were they thinking??"

That's a nice thought, but as optimistic a guy as I am, even I can't pretend that McGahee is another Marshall Faulk. I'd like to see that come true, but as of today, that's not a very good comparison.

donnaj
03-08-2007, 08:17 PM
I agree with the comment about next year's draft class of RB's. It is a mixed bag of sentiment, I would love to see McFadden in Purple, but I hope that we are not in position to draft that high unless we make a dramatic trade on draft day, something we are not prone to do...the ravens tend to draft down not necesarily up into the top 5. There are many other extremely talented RB's and WR's as well. We do need to begin thinking about a QB to groom for the next couple of seasons under McNair, though we may have two drafts to find just the right player.

B-more Ravor
03-08-2007, 08:39 PM
The cap numbers are as follows:

2007: 1,865,000
2008: 2,855,000
2009: 3,170,000
2010: 6,150,000
2011: 8,550,000
2012: 9,050,000
2013: 8,500,000

If he plays out 4 years of the deal, then they'll be in good shape from a cap perspective. The 2011-2013 cap numbers look large by today's standards, but they probably won't seem so by then. If they were to have to cut him in 2011, they would take on $6.4M in dead money, but would still clear $2.15M from the cap.

It seems like a big deal, but that's just the way it is with the new CBA.

darb72
03-08-2007, 11:20 PM
I'm not ready to put Willis in the ProBowl, but he has to be better than Jamal (The Tap Dancing Bear).

Now our first two picks need to be a tackle and maybe a CB.

ExiledRaven
03-08-2007, 11:22 PM
Absolutely a tackle.

We might see a 3-4 DE, OLB, CB, ILB too.

I'm excited to see what oz does

Ravens0587
03-08-2007, 11:38 PM
Can someone please photoshop a jamal browns jersey onto this........
http://img174.echo.cx/img174/4687/ltgcroadrunner0028hl.jpg

MoK55
03-09-2007, 12:00 AM
First incident that McGahee gets into is over the number 21, since McAlister wont be giving it up.

UKRavenStockers
03-09-2007, 03:01 AM
First incident that McGahee gets into is over the number 21, since McAlister wont be giving it up.

Don't care about what jersey number he's got and tbh he wore #2 in college so I'm not sure he'll be too bothered.

Only numbers I care about for Willis are 100 and 6.

darb72
03-09-2007, 03:12 AM
Can someone please photoshop a jamal browns jersey onto this........
And then email it to Bruise.

RAVENOUS52
03-09-2007, 08:11 AM
I'm optimistic about this trade, if only for the fact that nearly every Miami Hurricane we've acquired in recent years has played phenomenally for us.

I think my homeboy Willis will have no choice but to live up to the expectations of the other auspicious alumni of the U, both on and off the field.

If I'm not mistaken, McGahee has a very close relationship with Ray Lewis already.:thumbup:

Losac
03-09-2007, 02:08 PM
Any word on the McGahee press conference? Thought it was supposed to be today at 1.

Dont Know
03-09-2007, 02:15 PM
You can listen to it here (http://wbal.com/sports/ravens/story.asp?articleid=54943)