2010 Cut Day: Ravens Edition.

[Marcel#52]

Figured we needed to start a thread for the cuts. Post any that you find here.


The Ravens have cut undrafted rookie defensive back Brad Jones, according to a league source.
Brad Jones the first to go.

[Marcel#52]

The Ravens also released undrafted rookie outside linebacker Albert McClellan, per a league source.
The Ravens have released undrafted rookie cornerback and punt returner Prince Miller, according to a league source.

Albert McClellan and Prince Miller

[Sua Sponte]

Seen those coming.
Marcel were are you getting the info. I am all over the Net and I haven"t seen any updates.

[Marcel#52]

Seen those coming.
Marcel were are you getting the info. I am all over the Net and I haven"t seen any updates.
Aaron Wilson's Twitter.

[Marcel#52]

Ramon Harewood has made the team

@RavensInsider: Ravens rookie tackle Ramon Harewood has made the team, according to a league source.

[Stealthbirds80]

I signed up for twitter just for this day.

[Dan The Man]

Albert McClellan and Prince Miller

There goes my 53 make the cut. I actually thought Miller would make it. Not for his corner skills but for his return ability. I guess that muffed return really hurt him. Maybe it was his corner skills.

[Marcel#52]

# I'm hearing that Ravens rookie wide receiver David Reed has made the team.


More Ravens' cuts: wide receiver Eron Riley, tight end Davon Drew and offensive lineman Devin Tyler. l


I'm hearing that the Ravens will retain Billy Cundiff as their kicker over Shayne Graham.

Also Travis Fisher was cut.


ProFootballTalk

Ravens cut CB Travis Fisher, per league source.

[Stealthbirds80]

David Reed has made the team according to A Wilson. Yessssss!!!!!

[Stealthbirds80]

My 53 is looking good. I picked Cundiff as well. Don't let us down Cundi!!!

[Dan The Man]

Yeah my 53 is definately shot. I had Miller making it and Reed going to the practice squad. I did pick Cundiff though. Glad he made it. Harewood was also on my list.

[Marcel#52]

There are some unconfirmed trade rumors surrounding a couple of Ravens players: wide receiver Marcus Smith and quarterback Troy Smith.

Hopefully for a OL

[Stealthbirds80]

Yeah my 53 is definately shot. I had Miller making it and Reed going to the practice squad. I did pick Cundiff though. Glad he made it. Harewood was also on my list.

Thankfully I didnt do my 53 until after the Wilson trade before making my decision on Miller. I knew he would be a hard sell to make it after that.

[Stealthbirds80]

Wow trade rumors for Troy and Marcus Smith per A. Wilson. I wonder what for?

[Sua Sponte]

Can't be much, maybe that 5th we spent on Wilson for both.

[Dan The Man]

I didnt submit till Friday morning. I guess i just made an illadvised decision.
As to the unconfirmed reports, where are they coming from about Smith and Smith?
I see his A. WilsonTwits but cant find anything else.

[Sua Sponte]

PER: Aaron Wilson twitter

[RavenScallywag]

we should probably start compiling a list of cuts in one place...

Rumors are Cundiff MAKES the team. That would make me proud. Shayne Graham has experience, but would show the coaches want to go with the "better performer"

[Stealthbirds80]

Not going to lie, I thought that Harewood was destined for IR. I had him on my 53. I knew he wasn't going to the PS since he would be snatched by another team.

[Dan The Man]

PER: Aaron Wilson twitter

Yeah I saw what I did. Just finger happy I guess.

[Mista T]

Jon Jansen released by the Lions (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/09/04/jon-jansen-doesnt-make-the-lions/). Perhaps short term rental while Gaither heals?

[Marcel#52]

Jon Jansen released by the Lions (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/09/04/jon-jansen-doesnt-make-the-lions/). Perhaps short term rental while Gaither heals?

I like this idea. He's a strong veteran Ol. He would be a nice pickup.

[RavenScallywag]

Ramon Harewood is an interesting one...it'd be hard to IR him now that he's made the team. And he'd clearly be the odd man out if we were to pickup Jansen. Not so sure he'd clear waivers and go to PS.

[The Fanatic]

Rumors are Cundiff MAKES the team. That would make me proud. Shayne Graham has experience, but would show the coaches want to go with the "better performer"

+1

Clearly in kickoffs Cundiff was the better performer, in field goals, PAs they were basically neck and neck.
Field position in this league is huge, it is what special teams is all about for the most part.
Glad to see money wasn't the deciding factor here.
Almost certain at some point we'll all be cussing out Cundiff, but I'm not so sure that occasional error will out weigh what appears to be his consistant kickoff ability.
Guess we really won't know until the end of the season to see where we stand.

Liitle surprised about Harewood.
Definitely a great deal of upside, but Very raw at this point.
Gotta start wondering about David Hale with his injury, and Gaither with his whatever opening the door for Harewood to gain a spot.

[Dan The Man]

I like this idea. He's a strong veteran Ol. He would be a nice pickup.

Agreed, we may need some help there until Gaither figures out what he is doing and Cousins gets well. Definately makes good sense.

[Marcel#52]

Rookie defensive tackle Arthur Jones has made the Ravens' 53-man roster.

Divens is probably out.. Talvou is probably IR'd.

[Dan The Man]

+1

Clearly in kickoffs Cundiff was the better performer, in field goals, PAs they were basically neck and neck.
Field position in this league is huge, it is what special teams is all about for the most part.
Glad to see money wasn't the deciding factor here.
Almost certain at some point we'll all be cussing out Cundiff, but I'm not so sure that occasional error will out weigh what appears to be his consistant kickoff ability.
Guess we really won't know until the end of the season to see where we stand.

Liitle surprised about Harewood.
Definitely a great deal of upside, but Very raw at this point.
Gotta start wondering about David Hale with his injury, and Gaither with his whatever opening the door for Harewood to gain a spot.

No surprise that I am new but just wanted to say hey and love that sig.

[Stealthbirds80]

Definately wasn't sure on Art Jones, but I guess they know better than we do. Honestly I don't remember him in preseason.

[The Fanatic]

Mixed tweet available Right Here (http://www.baltimoreravens.com/News/tweetmixx.aspx)

[Dan The Man]

Definately wasn't sure on Art Jones, but I guess they know better than we do. Honestly I don't remember him in preseason.

He actually made some decent plays against the Rams. I had him on my 53. Nothing to brag about due to all my other misses.

[The Fanatic]

Travis Fisher: 'They said it had a lot to do with being a vested veteran. I felt like I could have really helped the team.'

Agreed, he is helping the team by leaving!!

Did this dude even watch some of his own film?

I mean damn!!
He was Antostio Langham reincarnated.

[RavenScallywag]

Be warned, Fisher probably comes back Week 2. Hopefully, he's the cut we make to get Cary Williams on roster.

[The Fanatic]

Be warned, Fisher probably comes back Week 2. Hopefully, he's the cut we make to get Cary Williams on roster.

Christ I hope not.
Wouldn't surprise me though.
Hell, I'd rather run Frank Walker in here for a couple weeks.
At least he's actually near the receiver he's supposed to be covering.

[Dan The Man]

Be warned, Fisher probably comes back Week 2. Hopefully, he's the cut we make to get Cary Williams on roster.

Im not so sure about Fisher coming back. I dont think he was impressive at all. At least I expected more from him.

[Marcel#52]

Shayne Graham cut...

Shayne Graham has been released by Baltimore, a league source confirms.

[Dan The Man]

Mike Duffy just reported Troy Smith might get cut today.

[RavenScallywag]

Christ I hope not.
Wouldn't surprise me though.
Hell, I'd rather run Frank Walker in here for a couple weeks.
At least he's actually near the receiver he's supposed to be covering.

Just given the comments from Harbaugh about vested vet rule, seems that his cut was mainly so they didn't guarantee his salary.

A bit suprised both he AND Prince Miller cut though. Would think Prince Miller might make the team for one week, get cut for Fisher, who then gets cut for Cary Williams...

Right now, our week 1 CB depth chart is: Washington, Carr, Wilson, Webb
Unless Gerard suprisingly made the team, only 4 CBs active on week 1, not to mention Webb is still recovering and Wilson is brand new? That seems risky. Hamlin probably makes the team due to Reed on PUP, maybe he is technically a 5th CB?

[RavenScallywag]

Mike Duffy just reported Troy Smith might get cut today.

And Chris Columbus just reported the earth might be round...

No disrespect to you, I just think it's funny people reporting Troy "might get cut today". We've known he might get cut since Bulger got signed. Newsworthy would be "HE IS CUT" or "HE IS TRADED"

Keep up the posting, just me having a bit of fun.

[Marcel#52]

That seems risky. Hamlin probably makes the team due to Reed on PUP, maybe he is technically a 5th CB?

Or maybe Naki is gonna technically be our 5th corner? *shrugs*

[The Fanatic]

Just given the comments from Harbaugh about vested vet rule, seems that his cut was mainly so they didn't guarantee his salary.

A bit suprised both he AND Prince Miller cut though. Would think Prince Miller might make the team for one week, get cut for Fisher, who then gets cut for Cary Williams...

Right now, our week 1 CB depth chart is: Washington, Carr, Wilson, Webb
Unless Gerard suprisingly made the team, only 4 CBs active on week 1, not to mention Webb is still recovering and Wilson is brand new? That seems risky. Hamlin probably makes the team due to Reed on PUP, maybe he is technically a 5th CB?

Yes, I see what you mean about the vested veteran bit, does make sense to a certain extent, doesn't mean I got to like it though.
Gerard sliding in wouldn't surprise me either.
I think they're going to ntry and slide miller in on the practice squad, risky, but there is always going to be somebody or two they put on there and hope it sticks.

In a pinch, I think they think they can put nakumura out there as a third or fourth DB if needed.
We'll see...

[Raveninwoodlawn]

I'm assuming we are bringing in another CB?

Going into week 1, right now we have 4 CB's and while most think he will be playing, nobody is sure how well he will play in his first action in a year (Webb). Same in week 2.

[Dan The Man]

And Chris Columbus just reported the earth might be round...

No disrespect to you, I just think it's funny people reporting Troy "might get cut today". We've known he might get cut since Bulger got signed. Newsworthy would be "HE IS CUT" or "HE IS TRADED"

Keep up the posting, just me having a bit of fun.

No shame in putting one in his place. I guess I am just one of those who would like this rumor to come true. Would love to see those words "HE IS CUT", No disrespect taken. Im sure you will provide me with plenty of ammo for good conversation.

[The Fanatic]

No shame in putting one in his place. I guess I am just one of those who would like this rumor to come true. Would love to see those words "HE IS CUT",

Patience there Big Dan...

Shouldn't be long now!!:laugh:

[Dan The Man]

Patience there Big Dan...

Shouldn't be long now!!:laugh:

Just playing

[Sua Sponte]

Gerard might make the team, he actually plays ST well and was out on the field for the first time against the Rams, and he already has time with the team (play book, verbage), makes since over Miller and Fisher, how much worse can he play.

Also wouldn't be surprized to see Harewood released later on in the week or injured in practice after the surge from other teams take place and then placed on the PS or IR. I think he is to RAW to waste a roster spot. Unless they plan on spending a lot of extra time working on his Technique. No doubt he has the build and physical nature, he was a beast as a Run Blocker, maybe goaline and Jumbo packages or something.

[RavenScallywag]

No shame in putting one in his place. I guess I am just one of those who would like this rumor to come true. Would love to see those words "HE IS CUT", No disrespect taken. Im sure you will provide me with plenty of ammo for good conversation.

I should clarify, the person I'm really complaining about there is Mike Duffy. It's not really a news item to say "Troy Smith might be cut today". He should just wait until there's something solid.

[Dan The Man]

Say goodbye to Chris Hawkins. I didnt see him doing anything anyways.

[Marcel#52]

Hey could some one take over? I'm off to run some errands and T-mobile 3g coverage out here is spotty..

[Sua Sponte]

Hey could some one take over? I'm off to run some errands and T-mobile 3g coverage out here is spotty..

I'm sure as a collective group we can handle the load. If not I'll do my best.

[Marcel#52]

Thanks..


Mike Duffy duffstar

#Ravens trade LB Antwan Barnes to Eagles for a 2011 draft pick. First official move of the day.

Suprise?

[The Fanatic]

First shocker of the day!!

Ravens trade Antwane Barnes toi the Eagles for a 2011 draft pick.

[elland]

Yep!

[Raveninwoodlawn]

Whoa...Barnes traded to the Eagles for a 2011 draft pick.

I would have preferred to keep him as he is one of the few guys who has a lot of speed off the edge.

Would like to see what we get...hopefully it's that 5th rounder back or better.

[Dan The Man]

Antwan Barnes to Eagles for 2011 Draft pick. First official trade of the day.

[Stealthbirds80]

Does this let us know that Sergio maybe further along than we hoped. This is a shocker.

[Sua Sponte]

Damn, didn't see that coming for a draft pick, maybe a player but not a pick next year, hopefully it was a decent pick. Maybe they are getting good reports from King Serg. I'm sure that messed up a lot of 53 man guesses.

[Marcel#52]

Does this let us know that Sergio maybe further along than we hoped. This is a shocker.

^^^ This

[RavenScallywag]

I won't read any Kindle news into that. Guess this means Burgess and E. Jones might make the team. Barnes was probably the only guy we could get something for, and must've all been equal-ish in our eyes

We haven't even had our team doctors look at Kindle yet! We wouldn't make that decision without OUR guys seeing him first.

[The Fanatic]

Does this let us know that Sergio maybe further along than we hoped. This is a shocker.

Wasn't he supposed to see some neuorologists or something this past week to determine his health status?
Did it happen?

I'm still pretty surprised Barnes was traded.

[Dan The Man]

The Barnes trade really is a head scratcher. I thought he was going to do good things for us this year. I hope it is at least a 4th. Anything less will be a steal.

[Stealthbirds80]

Wasn't he supposed to see some neuorologists or something this past week to determine his health status?
Did it happen?

I'm still pretty surprised Barnes was traded.

Exactly, what happened. I'm sure that all must have went well according to some of his twitter post.

[Sua Sponte]

I know it's not Harbs call, but he has some say in it and he has ties to Philly. Also I expected Barnes to really step up against the Rams backups and just dominate and he didin't.

[Marcel#52]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_vYB3walr4

I wonder if the eagles remember this..

[RavenScallywag]

PFT made a point to mention it, will be interesting how Rocca handles seeing Barnes stepping into their locker room. Maybe he'll be hiding and deck him for fun...

[The Fanatic]

I wonder if the eagles remember this..

Oh that was nasty.
Helmet to helmet too.

[Marcel#52]

PFT made a point to mention it, will be interesting how Rocca handles seeing Barnes stepping into their locker room. Maybe he'll be hiding and deck him for fun...
That might not end well for Rocca

http://www.gifsoup.com/imager.php?id=1087178 (http://www.gifsoup.com/view/1087178/punched.html)

[RavenScallywag]

Time to start pondering the Kindle impact...


GMC: #Barnes trade could also reflect #Ravens confidence in #Kindle's ability to return. He's being evaluated in #Baltimore now.

So maybe the doctors are saying Kindle should be back by mid-season?

[Dan The Man]

I wonder if the eagles remember this..

Wow! Nice find. I remember that one. It was quite the cheap shot but you must have that head on a swivel at all times.

[Stealthbirds80]

:laugh: Just like Oscar the grouch.

[Sua Sponte]

So most of you joining us do not have to go back and read all 60+ post here is what we have so far.

Waived/Cut
D. Dutch CB
B. Jones DB
P. Miller CB
C. Hawkins CB
T. Fisher CB
E. Riley WR
D. Drew TE
D. Tyler OL
A. McCellan LB
S. Graham K

Traded
Barnes (Eagles 2011 pick)

Made Team
R. Harewood OL/T
B. Cundiff K
D. Reed WR

[Stealthbirds80]

Prescott or Phillips safe according to Aaron Wilson.

[Marcel#52]

Wasn't he supposed to see some neuorologists or something this past week to determine his health status?
Did it happen?

I'm still pretty surprised Barnes was traded.


WNST

GMC: #Barnes trade could also reflect #Ravens confidence in #Kindle's ability to return. He's being evaluated in #Baltimore now.
:word:word

[RavenScallywag]

Thanks ScoNo...obviously, a lot of confirmations still remain. Still don't know if either of DWil or Harper or M. Smith were cut. Can't imagine all 3 making team, hard to imagine even two of them making the team, with Reed winning a job.

[RavenScallywag]

While awaiting news...this is a good watch from last year, re cut down day

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-total-access/09000d5d81268d17/The-Turk

[Mista T]

Prescott Burgess or Jason Phillips are probably safe, per Aaron. No surprise.



I should clarify, the person I'm really complaining about there is Mike Duffy. It's not really a news item to say "Troy Smith might be cut today". He should just wait until there's something solid.

Disagree. Hearing a "maybe" coming from Duffy, who works for the Ravens, is about equivalent to : it's 99%.

[RavenScallywag]

That's a valid point...BR message through whole preseason has been supportive of Troy making the team.

[Sua Sponte]

Still waiting to see the conditions of the pick for Barnes. Has anybody seen anything? Barnes was a 4th rd pick so maybe that is what we got back, hopefully. I think anything less we were cutting him.

I would think that E. Jones is back in. Although I though he penalized his way off the team.

[RavenScallywag]

Nothing really, though speculation involves us getting a 5th round pick back, like the one we gave up for Josh Wilson

[Sirdowski]

As of right now I'm pissed about that Barnes trade. either they know something we don't or got a deal. Why would you trade one of our only consistent proven although not the greatest pass rushers?? Only so he can be replaced by a run stuffing linebacker who could effectively be neutralized if teams decide to throw all over us because of our stout run D. Perplexed to say the least.

[RavenScallywag]

Sirdowski, all i can tell you iss our FO/coaching staff are not idiots. Maybe it's a gamble move like keeping Hauschka, but I can't see trading Barnes unless we've got a good feeling our pass rush is healthy in other LBs or DLs to replace him.

[Dan The Man]

Check out what Asante Samuels had to say: [URL="http://Twitter account, "Philly Fans... Welcome my boi Antwan Barnes to Philly! If u don't know him now, you will soon, as he is a BEAST. 8 Days til game time!!!""

[Dan The Man]

David Hale placed on IR

[Sua Sponte]

Hale to IR explains the Harewood move.

Talavou to IR

[edreedisgod20]

consistent proven

Not exactly the words I'd use to describe Barnes.

[RavenScallywag]

Some IR moves...


RavensInsider Ravens place defensive tackle Kelly Talavou on injured reserve with an ACL injury, according to a league source.

RavensInsider Ravens place David Hale on injured reserve with bruised tailbone, according to a league source.

Talavou's IR explains why Art Jones makes the team.
Hale's IR likely explains why Harewood makes it. OL depth is VERY interesting right now...Moll can play T/G, Chester is G/C

[Stealthbirds80]

According to his agent, Barnes will be strickly a DE in the Eagles 4-3. I'm happy for him.

[Sua Sponte]

Hey somebody tell CSNBrent that he is about 20-30 minutes behind the power curve and is congesting the board with his late Tweets.

[RavenScallywag]

No suprise, but Jalen Parmele makes the team, per Jerry Coleman.


RavensInsider For those asking, Ravens defensive tackle Lamar Divens remains on the roster as of minutes ago.

that'd be interesting, I had Talavou and McKinney as the two bubble DLs making the roster. With Art Jones and Divens making the team, could mean McKinney is cut? Or we go thinner at a different position

[Sirdowski]

Not exactly the words I'd use to describe Barnes.

Proven pass rush ability not always = sacks, especially among undesized pass rushers. He's got speed hurries the QB and if he goes unblockd he's getting to the Q fast. How many holding calls did he draw from other teams 1's? But this is moot, I trust Oz. Just my initial frustrations.

[RavenScallywag]

Barnes has been hot and cold his whole career...started out in Harbs' "doghouse" last year, eventually played pretty well.

Had a string start to preseason, but can't recall him making much of an impact in last two games.

[RavenScallywag]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/09/04/redskins-trade-justin-tryon-to-colts/

UGH! This is who I was hoping for in the Beck trade. Redskins got a steal in that deal...Beck is making it as their 3rd QB, Dutch didn't even make the 4th preseason game.

Also, looks like ONE Clayton didn't make it. Bucs cut ties with Michael Clayton, drafted a year before Mark. Who was bigger dissapointment?

[Sua Sponte]

Proven pass rush ability not always = sacks, especially among undesized pass rushers. He's got speed hurries the QB and if he goes unblockd he's getting to the Q fast. How many holding Calla did he draw for other teams 1's? But this is moot, I trust Oz. Just my initial frustrations.

I'd have to agree with you there. He was drawing a lot of holding penalties which is huge for our D, anything and long we are usually sending 6-7 on a blitz. However he was starting, so he was only producing in situational plays and edgar Jones has shown that he is just has good on those downs.

[HoustonRaven]

According to my often wrong public school math skills, we are making significant cap space.

I do not think a Housh signing is out of the question -- maybe at 40% now.

[AirFlacco]

I thought Harewood was a project and would go on the practice squad.

Guess they couldn't slip him thru waivers.

I read where he will be starting RT by 2012 with Oher @ LT.

It must have been those longer kick offs for Billy.

[edreedisgod20]

Proven pass rush ability not always = sacks, especially among undesized pass rushers. He's got speed hurries the QB and if he goes unblockd he's getting to the Q fast. How many holding calls did he draw from other teams 1's? But this is moot, I trust Oz. Just my initial frustrations.

Barnes is talented, sure, but "consistent" would be the opposite of what he is.

[Sua Sponte]

T.J cut from Seahawks

[Sirdowski]

Man I would like to see Housh in purple and black. If the deal is there oz is getting it done, this takes pressure off next year as well.

[Raveninwoodlawn]

An Eagles fan posted on the scout board that he saw on Ravens website message board that it was for a 7th round pick...the Eagles don't have a 6th to give.

If that is the case, I don't like this at all. I know the coaches know more than I do, but that says to me that they were going to just cut him and wanted to get what they could for him.

We'll see...

[Sua Sponte]

Maybe we should have offered them a 5th and a 6th for Wilson and T.J since they were cutting him anyway.

[RavenScallywag]

That would shock me. A 7th for Barnes is ridiculous, unless it's paired with a player or something.

[Sua Sponte]

I haven't seen anything about what pick from any source. Sounds like speculation

[Sua Sponte]

Man the boards are dead right now for the Ravens. I think it is time to go get some food.

[elland]

Hey somebody tell CSNBrent that he is about 20-30 minutes behind the power curve and is congesting the board with his late Tweets.

True.. Its spammmmmmmmmmm.

[Dan The Man]

Anyone have any thoughts on Denver shopping Alphonso Smith for a 5th. If no one bites he will be cut. Denver traded their 2010 first round pick(14) to move up in the 09 draft to select him at 37. He apparently hasnt shown them much. Maybe they just dont know how to groom a player.

[RavenScallywag]

Wondering if the team media machine has asked agents/players to stop feeding info until they announce everything officially...

[RavenScallywag]

Anyone have any thoughts on Denver shopping Alphonso Smith for a 5th. If no one bites he will be cut. Denver traded their 2010 first round pick(14) to move up in the 09 draft to select him at 37. He apparently hasnt shown them much. Maybe they just dont know how to groom a player.

He had a thread dedicated to him, seems like a stretch for them to cut him after one year. Maybe they trade, otherwise, I think they find a way to IR him or keep him.

Our interest was gone the minute we traded for Josh Wilson

[Raveninwoodlawn]

Anyone have any thoughts on Denver shopping Alphonso Smith for a 5th. If no one bites he will be cut. Denver traded their 2010 first round pick(14) to move up in the 09 draft to select him at 37. He apparently hasnt shown them much. Maybe they just dont know how to groom a player.

I'd definately take him...especially considering our CB's always seem to be getting hurt over the last 2 years. At the end of the year, we have had our 4th CB's starting playoff games because of injuries and have had to play guys like Walker and even Ivy a lot down the stretch.

[Dan The Man]

He had a thread dedicated to him, seems like a stretch for them to cut him after one year. Maybe they trade, otherwise, I think they find a way to IR him or keep him.

Our interest was gone the minute we traded for Josh Wilson

Yeah being new I didnt research threads already started. My bad... Still I dont think he makes their team or to be placed on IR. I think he is out. Its just a matter if they can find someone to bite on a trade. After us letting most of the depth at corner go, I can see us still bringing in at least one more quality db. Im not saying Smith is the guy, just swirling the idea around out loud if you know what I mean.

[Dan The Man]

Curtis Steele has been cut.

[The Fanatic]

All this talk about getting TJ whosyourmama, I don't see it.
I think we're good at receiver right now.
With Gaither being Gaither, Cousins being iffy, and Hale now being put on IR, we are exceptionally thin at OT right now.
To me, that is the #1 priority to address right now.

[Raveninwoodlawn]

Here (http://twitter.com/jraanan/status/22994013249) is a little more rumbling of the compensation from an Eagles beat writer...



Eagles only give up a seventh-round pick for Barnes, according to an NFL source. That's the equivalent of a Jamar Chaney or Moise Fokou.

Not happy at all if this is true.

Barnes must have already been outside of the 53 and the team just wanted to get whatever crap they could get for him.

[The Fanatic]

Curtis Steele has been cut.

Got practice squad written all over him if he clears.

[RavenScallywag]

Yeah being new I didnt research threads already started. My bad... Still I dont think he makes their team or to be placed on IR. I think he is out. Its just a matter if they can find someone to bite on a trade. After us letting most of the depth at corner go, I can see us still bringing in at least one more quality db. Im not saying Smith is the guy, just swirling the idea around out loud if you know what I mean.

If we could get him for nothing, A.Smith isn't a bad thought...he's not a vested vet, so his salary isn't guaranteed for the year if he's here week 1.

[Dan The Man]

All this talk about getting TJ whosyourmama, I don't see it.
I think we're good at receiver right now.
With Gaither being Gaither, Cousins being iffy, and Hale now being put on IR, we are exceptionally thin at OT right now.
To me, that is the #1 priority to address right now.

Let the truth be heard!:hammer:

[The Fanatic]

An Eagles fan posted on the scout board that he saw on Ravens website message board that it was for a 7th round pick...the Eagles don't have a 6th to give.

If that is the case, I don't like this at all. I know the coaches know more than I do, but that says to me that they were going to just cut him and wanted to get what they could for him.

We'll see...

Seems to be the case.
If all we got was a 7th, then he was probably not going to make the cut anyway.

[Raveninwoodlawn]

If we could get him for nothing, A.Smith isn't a bad thought...he's not a vested vet, so his salary isn't guaranteed for the year if he's here week 1.

He'd also have to get through approx 24 teams or so in waivers to get to us if he was cut.

[HoustonRaven]

Housh coming here probably wont happen, but it's far from an either / or situation as well.

We can still grab him and do what needs to be done with the O line.

[RavenScallywag]

we probably won't get it, but i'd love to hear someone explain the Barnes trade.

I find it hard to believe he wasn't going to make the cut, he was safely on this team. I know Eagles didn't have a 6th round pick, but 7th is just a bit of ridiculous.

[elland]

Not that interested in houshmama, but if he is going to the AFC N, better here.

[Dan The Man]

Looks like Harper has been cut. Shame, I always liked him. I wish he could have been given some more chances. Maybe he ends up on the practice squad?

[RavenScallywag]

Harper has been cut, per Aaron Wilson

[Raveninwoodlawn]

we probably won't get it, but i'd love to hear someone explain the Barnes trade.

I find it hard to believe he wasn't going to make the cut, he was safely on this team. I know Eagles didn't have a 6th round pick, but 7th is just a bit of ridiculous.

Only thing I can think of is that they were so intent on keeping the 5th/6th round rookies that they had to sacrifice a guy that wasn't normally a bubble guy.

And while we all have fallen in love with Barnes potential for the last 4 years, he really hasn't been a consistent producer for us.

[elland]

we probably won't get it, but i'd love to hear someone explain the Barnes trade.

I find it hard to believe he wasn't going to make the cut, he was safely on this team. I know Eagles didn't have a 6th round pick, but 7th is just a bit of ridiculous.

The value migth be okay, think Josh Wilson.. a starter, a former second round pick, need. But I find it curious too, when we have suspect pass rush.

Btw I remember when Harbaugh confronted Ellerbee after his TD.. several players passed them.. only number 50 gave Ellerbe some kind of hug..

[RavenScallywag]

Looks like Harper has been cut. Shame, I always liked him. I wish he could have been given some more chances. Maybe he ends up on the practice squad?

He was on the active roster some last year. He can probably still be on the PS, but it won't be too much longer before we're out of "options" for him.

[The Fanatic]

we probably won't get it, but i'd love to hear someone explain the Barnes trade.

I find it hard to believe he wasn't going to make the cut, he was safely on this team. I know Eagles didn't have a 6th round pick, but 7th is just a bit of ridiculous.

Yeah, I'm in agreement here.
Not that Barnes is a world beater here, but still fit in nicely on a team that needs to improve on its pass rushing ability.
Some of these other cats like Gooden and Burgess haven't shown alot to warrant being here over Barnes at this point.

Hopefully as discussed earlier, Kindle is more of a factor then we know.

[Raveninwoodlawn]

Looks like Harper has been cut. Shame, I always liked him. I wish he could have been given some more chances. Maybe he ends up on the practice squad?

Why?

He sucks...had enough of the Training camp hero and then game choker. This team was BEGGING for him to make this team last year and he choked. And he continued to drop passes in games this year.

[The Fanatic]

Looks like Harper has been cut. Shame, I always liked him. I wish he could have been given some more chances. Maybe he ends up on the practice squad?

Bring on the TJ whosyourmama speculation again. :D

[RavenScallywag]

just by comparison, Burgess was traded for a conditional 7th round pick last year. The reason for this? He was a bubble player, had a 50/50 shot of even MAKING the team.

Conditional 7th round picks are generally traded for guys you are cutting, just so you get SOMETHING for them. That would indicate to me, like I said, that Barnes wasn't going to make the team. If that had happened, would've been a shocker as well. He looked like he was in line for a VERY big role this year. Kind've like a "12th starter" on D...

[Raveninwoodlawn]

It's just weird after all the talk all offseason about improving the pass rush, and then the talk about how Barnes was having such a great camp, and apparently, he wasn't going to make the team so you basically give him away for what will probably be a late 7th round pick?

Doesn't make sense to me and we will never know the real reason why.

[Raveninwoodlawn]

BTW...he apparently doesn't have anything left in the tank (been cut twice in one year), but Nathan Vasher was cut

[Dan The Man]

Why?

He sucks...had enough of the Training camp hero and then game choker. This team was BEGGING for him to make this team last year and he choked. And he continued to drop passes in games this year.

Why you ask? Pretty strong words to use "he sucks". The dude definately doesnt suck! Yeah he screwed up by dropping some passes but he has alot of talent. It took Miles Austin 4 years to figure it out. I just hope he makes it back to the PS cause at some point, not to far off, Harper will be someone people are talking good things about. Maybe it wont be for the Ravens but it will happen. What he lacks is confidence. Just my 2 cents.

[Sua Sponte]

There is more to it than we know, Ozzie is usually stellar in his post move explainations and reasoning. Obvoiusly this wasn't a we need a draft pick move, he was on the way out and offered to a team before he hit waivers.
So with Barnesgoing for a 7th, Smith will just be cut, or we get another 7th.

[Raveninwoodlawn]

Why you ask? Pretty strong words to use "he sucks". The dude definately doesnt suck! Yeah he screwed up by dropping some passes but he has alot of talent. It took Miles Austin 4 years to figure it out. I just hope he makes it back to the PS cause at some point, not to far off, Harper will be someone people are talking good things about. Maybe it wont be for the Ravens but it will happen. What he lacks is confidence. Just my 2 cents.

I'd bet he is camp fodder for another team next year and then is out of the league.

You have to catch the ball in this league and while a guy like Miles Austin didn't become a pro bowl guy till his 4th year, he was a viable NFL WR before then.

Harper can't catch. And if you can't catch, you can't be a WR.

[Dan The Man]

Just shot myself in the foot on this one. Guess Harper is in fact out of PS eligibility. Oh well... I wish him luck as long as its in the CFL cause I dont want him to come back and bite us on the rear. My link failed but Rotoworld was the source for what its worth.

[RavenScallywag]

This is Harper's 3rd year. If he hasn't gotten it by now, he isn't going to get it. He has a lot of potential, but he's not developing it well.

He was behind the 8ball this year with DS and David Reed pushing for spots. That he still looked like crap just shows he can't cut it here. Doubt he makes a team somewhere else.

[Dan The Man]

I'd bet he is camp fodder for another team next year and then is out of the league.

You have to catch the ball in this league and while a guy like Miles Austin didn't become a pro bowl guy till his 4th year, he was a viable NFL WR before then.

Harper can't catch. And if you can't catch, you can't be a WR.

Right or wrong I wish him luck.

[RavenScallywag]

Just shot myself in the foot on this one. Guess Harper is in fact out of PS eligibility. Oh well... I wish him luck as long as its in the CFL cause I dont want him to come back and bite us on the rear. My link failed but Rotoworld was the source for what its worth.

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=NFL&id=4954

There's a better link

[Sua Sponte]

Somebody asked what numberJosh Wilson would take since most of the CB #'s were in use, well it looks like he will have plenty of options now. I would have to guess # 22

[bmorebirds_24]

Why you ask? Pretty strong words to use "he sucks". The dude definately doesnt suck! Yeah he screwed up by dropping some passes but he has alot of talent. It took Miles Austin 4 years to figure it out. I just hope he makes it back to the PS cause at some point, not to far off, Harper will be someone people are talking good things about. Maybe it wont be for the Ravens but it will happen. What he lacks is confidence. Just my 2 cents.

Welcome to the board! :thumbup:


Harper sucks bro! :thumbdown:

[Sua Sponte]

Ramon Harewood on making the Ravens: “It’s been a long hard road. Yeah, it’s exciting. At the same time, it’s a bigger responsibility now."

At least he knows what is ahead of him, he has a lot to learn but he has the build and just looked dominating on a few run blocks.

[Dan The Man]

Welcome to the board! :thumbup:


Harper sucks bro! :thumbdown:

I got that the first time. Its cool. I just think he has more skill than that but thats why its called opinions.:thumbup:

[Sua Sponte]

I got that the first time. Its cool. I just think he has more skill than that but thats why its called opinions.:thumbup:

Don't worry Dan I held out promise for Harper, but after that first drop against the Skins, I new it was over, I guess alot of that had to do with the fact that all of our WR were 5'10 last year and he had height, but just couldn't seem to bring it all together with his hands. Some just are not built fot the big stage. Well we have some taller WR's now and who cares about height when Boldin just runs over DB's

Welcome to the best damn board in sports

[Dan The Man]

Don't worry Dan I held out promise for Harper, but after that first drop against the Skins, I new it was over, I guess alot of that had to do with the fact that all of our WR were 5'10 last year and he had height, but just couldn't seem to bring it all together with his hands. Some just are not built fot the big stage. Well we have some taller WR's now and who cares about height when Boldin just runs over DB's

Welcome to the best damn board in sports

Thanks, its a breath of fresh air after spending so much time on the Ravens official site. Dont get me wrong, I still love it over there, but its nice to have found a place where (hopefully) the "idiots" are kept out. Im sure you know what I mean. Thanks again.

[Raveninwoodlawn]

Broncos traded Alphonso Smith to the Lions for Dan Gronkowski.

[Raveninwoodlawn]

Aaron reporting that D. Williams was in meeting with coaches for like 15 minutes...probably cut.

Also he heard that the Ravens as of yesterday planned to cut Troy Smith.

[Sua Sponte]

Plan as of yesterday was to cut Troy Smith, still no word, D-WIll ina meeting for about 15 mins still no word.

[Sua Sponte]

Aaron reporting that D. Williams was in meeting with coaches for like 15 minutes...probably cut.

Also he heard that the Ravens as of yesterday planned to cut Troy Smith.

Damn, I guess trying to do a Mock draft and update the board I'm a bit slow on the trigger.

[Dan The Man]

I think they should cut Brian Mattison. He shouldnt be given special treatment because of his last name. He has completely stunk up the field this pre season. Not showing any signs of growth since last year. Thoughts?

[Raveninwoodlawn]

I think they should cut Brian Mattison. He shouldnt be given special treatment because of his last name. He has completely stunk up the field this pre season. Not showing any signs of growth since last year. Thoughts?

Definitely agree. Every time I saw him at C, he was just getting blown off the ball, whether it was a run or a pass.

He stinks.

[StingerNLG]

Aaron reporting that D. Williams was in meeting with coaches for like 15 minutes...probably cut.

With David Reed making the team this seemed to be the inevitable move here.


Also he heard that the Ravens as of yesterday planned to cut Troy Smith.

We haven't heard it happen yet. I still say he's got to have some pictures of someone.

[RavenScallywag]

I think they should cut Brian Mattison. He shouldnt be given special treatment because of his last name. He has completely stunk up the field this pre season. Not showing any signs of growth since last year. Thoughts?

highly doubtful he makes the team...mainly a nicety to coah matty...his son makes th PS

[Sua Sponte]

Now they are saying Harewood hits IR.
It’s official: Hale, Harewood, Rodgers, Talavou hit IR. Ed Reed goes to PUP

Drew, Gerard, Harper, Hawkins, Jones, Mattison, McClellan, Reitz, Riley, TSmith, Steele, Tyler, DemWilliams, Fisher, Graham waived.

[Mr OC]

Dolphins release Pat White. I liked that dude when he was at WV...

[RavenScallywag]

Now they are saying Harewood hits IR.
It’s official: Hale, Harewood, Rodgers, Talavou hit IR. Ed Reed goes to PUP

Thought it might be a slip of the keyboard, but Aaron Wilson confirms this as well

Here comes our cuts, via Mike Duffy...


Drew, Gerard, Harper, Hawkins, Jones, Mattison, McClellan, Reitz, Riley, TSmith, Steele, Tyler, DemWilliams, Fisher, Graham waived. #Ravens

[Raveninwoodlawn]

So we are carrying 6 WR...Marcus Smith apparently made it.

I'm a little concerned about only having 4 CB's...and 2 of them have not played a snap in a game for us yet.

This year was a very interesting year for cuts...

[RavenScallywag]

So, with the Barnes trade, it actually made Edgar Jones, Jason Phillips, AND Prescott Burgess safe. All three make the team

[Lee Van Cleef]

The national nightmare is over. We can move on from Troy Smith.

[RavenScallywag]

The national nightmare is over. We can move on from Troy Smith.

I made a thread for people to mourn in...

http://www.ravens24x7.com/forum/showthread.php?t=57013

[Raveninwoodlawn]

Ok...so I checked out the Ravens official site and took a look at the roster.

Apparently Prince Miller HAS made the team.

I'm happy for the little guy even though he will be cut in 2 weeks when Williams gets back. Hopefully then we can stash him on the PS

[Mr OC]

Bummed about Spiderman...really thought he would put it together this year...

[RavenScallywag]

http://www.masnsports.com/dan_kolko/2010/09/here-are-the-ravens-final-cuts.html

Final list of the Ravens cuts...

Our 53 Man Roster (for now)

QB - Flacco, Bulger
RB - Rice, McGahee, McClain, Parmele
WR - Boldin, Mason, DS, Clayton, Reed, Marcus Smith
TE - Heap, Pitta, Dickson
OL - Oher, Gaither, Yanda, Grubbs, Birk, Chester, Moll, Cousins
DL - Gregg, Ngata, Cody, Kruger, Redding, Divens, A.Jones, McKinney, Pryce
LB - Suggs, JJ, Ray, Ellerbe, J.McClain, Gooden, Phillips, Burgess, E.Jones
DB - Washington, Carr, Webb, Wilson, Nakamura, Hamlin, Zbikowski, Landry, Prince Miller, C.Williams*
ST - Cundiff, Cox, Koch

* - Does not count against 53 man for now

[Raveninwoodlawn]

http://www.masnsports.com/dan_kolko/2010/09/here-are-the-ravens-final-cuts.html

Final list of the Ravens cuts...

Our 53 Man Roster (for now)

QB - Flacco, Bulger
RB - Rice, McGahee, McClain, Parmele
WR - Boldin, Mason, DS, Clayton, Reed, Marcus Smith
TE - Heap, Pitta, Dickson
OL - Oher, Gaither, Yanda, Grubbs, Birk, Chester, Moll, Cousins
DL - Gregg, Ngata, Kruger, Redding, Divens, A.Jones, McKinney, Pryce
LB - Suggs, JJ, Ray, Ellerbe, J.McClain, Gooden, Phillips, Burgess, E.Jones
DB - Washington, Carr, Webb, Wilson, Nakamura, Hamlin, Zbikowski, Landry
ST - Cundiff, Cox, Koch

(51, trying to figure out the two I missed)

Prince Miller and Terrence Cody

[Sua Sponte]

Nowthey are saying P. Miller made the team, 52

[baltimore_hokie]

Prince Miller and Terrence Cody

I'm pretty sure I saw a report that Prince Miller got cut. Cary Williams will be on the list at some point, but not for this original 53.

[Sua Sponte]

Prince Miller and Terrence Cody

Yup. Damn I didn't even realize Cody. So now what is the deal with King Serge. If he gets cleared and PUP'd I would imagine that Burgess or Jones gets the AX if he comes back.

[RavenScallywag]

Twitter has been your best friend and worst enemy today...

Prince Miller had reportedly been cut, but made the team
Ramon Harewood reportedly made the team, but instead was sent to IR. They even INTERVIEWED him on making the team

Before twitter, these things happened behind the scenes.

[Lee Van Cleef]

Stallworth hasn't been PUP'd or IR'd has he? I've not seen any announcements about it.

[Raveninwoodlawn]

I'm pretty sure I saw a report that Prince Miller got cut. Cary Williams will be on the list at some point, but not for this original 53.

Miller is listed on the official Ravens player roster chart on their official website. (http://www.baltimoreravens.com/People/Player_Roster.aspx?q=position)

[RavenScallywag]

Yup. Damn I didn't even realize Cody. So now what is the deal with King Serge. If he gets cleared and PUP'd I would imagine that Burgess or Jones gets the AX if he comes back.

Won't have to worry about those decisions till Weeks 6-9

by then, who knows what injuries we'll have.

[RavenScallywag]

Stallworth hasn't been PUP'd or IR'd has he? I've not seen any announcements about it.

PUP is not available for Stallworth, can only be on PUP if you stay on PUP all TC. IR would put him out for the year. No, Ravens carrying him and just de-activating on gameday until he's ready to go.

[Raveninwoodlawn]

Stallworth hasn't been PUP'd or IR'd has he? I've not seen any announcements about it.

Stallworth cannot be PUP'd.

A player has to be on active PUP before put on the reserve PUP...and you can't be on the active PUP after actively participating in one full practice in training camp. So really he was ineligible as soon as he took the field for the first day of training camp.

They also are not going to IR him as that would put him out for the year.

He is on the active roster and will remain there until he is ready to return, or the team decides it's been too long and puts him on IR.

[HoustonRaven]

Wait .... Cody was cut?

[Raveninwoodlawn]

Wait .... Cody was cut?

No...where are you getting that?

Just check out the roster page on the ravens website (http://www.baltimoreravens.com/People/Player_Roster.aspx?q=position) and it will tell you who is on the team.

[HoustonRaven]

No...where are you getting that?

Just check out the roster page on the ravens website (http://www.baltimoreravens.com/People/Player_Roster.aspx?q=position) and it will tell you who is on the team.

N/M .... misread Scallywags post

[RavenScallywag]

No, he slipped my mind because of the injury and being out. Of our 2010 draft class, we had 0 cuts...one IR (Harewood), one PUP (Kindle), rest made it (Cody, Dickson, Pitta, A.Jones, D.Reed)

[The Fanatic]

I'm a still a thinkin' we look mighty thin at the O-line there.

Keeping four running backs looks kind of suspect to me.

I'll assume when Reed comes back, Hamlin is as good as gone.

Linebacker looks abit heavy as well, even more so that Kindle isn't on there yet either.

[Sua Sponte]

Stallworth hasn't been PUP'd or IR'd has he? I've not seen any announcements about it.

No, he can not be PUP'd and if he is put on IR he is done for the year.

[RavenScallywag]

4 RBs is actually one less than last year...Last year we had Rice, McGahee, McClain, Parmele, and Lawrence. Lawrence got injured towards the end.

Got to wonder if some of these moves are just temporary until we can scan the waiver wire. Prince Miller making the team is an example...love the guy, but he's only temporary.

[HoustonRaven]

How about dumping Stallworth and picking up Housh?

... or have I had too many beers?

[Sua Sponte]

Wait .... Cody was cut?

Dude, you scared me for a minute, I had to double check the roster.

All 350lbs of Mount Cody is on the roster

[RavenScallywag]

interesting thought, not sure if it happens though. I think they want to show that the move to bring in Stallworth pays off down the road.

[Sua Sponte]

Yeah I just have that feeling that things are still in the making. I think if anything else happens before week 2 it will have to be at the DL, LB, or WR position (if we trade or cut), we are still heavy in those areas. I wasn't thinking we would keep all of those DL.

[Sua Sponte]

How about dumping Stallworth and picking up Housh?

... or have I had too many beers?

There are still expendable WR's under Stallworth if we were to make a move like that, I would imagine that M. Smith would be slashed

[The Fanatic]

Got to wonder if some of these moves are just temporary until we can scan the waiver wire. Prince Miller making the team is an example...love the guy, but he's only temporary.

I'm thinking Hamlin is as well, and maybe somebody from the linebacker corp like Burgess, etc.
Quite frankly, I've seen nothing out of Gooden that says he's a sure fire keeper either.
Dude was touted as little Ray when he came out which nobody really expects, but at least look like there's a reason they said that.

[Raveninwoodlawn]

No doubt Miller is only here until Cary Williams gets back...I don't think they are keeping 6 CB's.

Hamlin is holding a spot for Reed and Marcus Smith is holding a spot for Stallworth.

But it's great for those guys to get to continue the dream and they are all solid players IMHO.

[RavenScallywag]

Hamlin will stick...he wasn't impressive, but not seeing anyone better on the waiver wire. He's a backup to Zbi anyway

[Beerracuda]

For those who wanted TJ Houshmanzadeh, reports are that he just signed with the Vikings.

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/39008511/ns/sports-player_news/

[PSMD410]

Adam Schefler just tweeted

RT @Jordan101GFX Has Housh signed with Minny or not? Hearing two reports. ... As of yet, he has not even spoken with the Vikings.

[Stealthbirds80]

Sweet what did I miss? I went to the MD state fair and couldn't keep up. I thought Miller got cut and now I'm reading that he made it. Damn twitter. I'm glad he made it. Troy finally got the ax and DWill getting cut is semi-surprising. This roster will change some more as players come back from suspension and injuries.

[4G63]

Does anyone know why the NFL sticks with just a 53-man roster? Sounds like something the Union should visit, shouldn't it? I mean hell, as long as a team stays under the Cap, why shouldn't they be able to carry 100 guys?


Sorry for the thread hijack, just something that's always bugged me....carry on! :)

[Mike B]

No doubt Miller is only here until Cary Williams gets back...I don't think they are keeping 6 CB's.

Hamlin is holding a spot for Reed and Marcus Smith is holding a spot for Stallworth.

But it's great for those guys to get to continue the dream and they are all solid players IMHO.

To be technical, Stallworth is holding the spot for himself. He is on the 53

I am guessing they feel more confident that Miller will get through to the practice squad easier after week 2 when Williams comes back.

[Dade]

Does anyone know why the NFL sticks with just a 53-man roster? Sounds like something the Union should visit, shouldn't it? I mean hell, as long as a team stays under the Cap, why shouldn't they be able to carry 100 guys?

I always wonder why only 53 too. But you can believe if there is ever a 18 game season the NFLPA will push for a bigger roster and a bigger active roster on gamedays.

[Galen Sevinne]

How about dumping Stallworth and picking up Housh?

... or have I had too many beers?

maybe it is the beers but I think you and I (ironically) are the only ones seeing the genius behind picking up Housh. We pick up Bolden and suddenly we are all content at wide receiver? I know Bolden and Mason are some tough mother fo's but if one of those guys goes down we are back to square one with our offense.

Its official Seattle cut him; http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2010/sep/04/seahawks-cut-tj-houshmandzadeh/ No trade needed and no need to cover is 7 million salary.

I think the idea that it is wrong to have three "possession" receivers is a false argument. Just think about an opposing team having to put a #3 DB on Mason? Mason picked up 100 grabs facing opponents #1 or #2 DB all year. that coupled with our tight ends and running backs and we very well could now have the most explosive offense in the league.

Don't let Cincy get him.

Bring in Housh!

EDIT: latest update on whats going on with Housh:

The Minneapolis Star Tribune reported that nothing had happened between the Vikings and Houshmanzadeh a half hour before the roster deadline. It was likely other teams were interested in Houshmanzadeh and his handlers wanted to hear all offers before cutting a deal.

[bmorebirds_24]

maybe it is the beers but I think you and I (ironically) are the only ones seeing the genius behind picking up Housh. We pick up Bolden and suddenly we are all content at wide receiver? I know Bolden and Mason are some tough mother fo's but if one of those guys goes down we are back to square one with our offense.

Its official Seattle cut him; http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2010/sep/04/seahawks-cut-tj-houshmandzadeh/ No trade needed and no need to cover is 7 million salary.

I think the idea that it is wrong to have three "possession" receivers is a false argument. Just think about an opposing team having to put a #3 DB on Mason? Mason picked up 100 grabs facing opponents #1 or #2 DB all year. that coupled with our tight ends and running backs and we very well could now have the most explosive offense in the league.

Don't let Cincy get him.

Bring in Housh!

EDIT: latest update on whats going on with Housh:

The Minneapolis Star Tribune reported that nothing had happened between the Vikings and Houshmanzadeh a half hour before the roster deadline. It was likely other teams were interested in Houshmanzadeh and his handlers wanted to hear all offers before cutting a deal.



You know when I heard he was cut I honestly didn't give two shits, but then I read your post and am in agreement with you and Houston. I don't know that Stallworth is the guy I send packing (for some reason I like him, mainly because of how he handled his accident situation)


But our wideouts would be nice to have DS and or Clayton as our fouth and fifth WR's.

[Dade]

maybe it is the beers but I think you and I (ironically) are the only ones seeing the genius behind picking up Housh. We pick up Bolden and suddenly we are all content at wide receiver? I know Bolden and Mason are some tough mother fo's but if one of those guys goes down we are back to square one with our offense.

Its official Seattle cut him; http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2010/sep/04/seahawks-cut-tj-houshmandzadeh/ No trade needed and no need to cover is 7 million salary.

I think the idea that it is wrong to have three "possession" receivers is a false argument. Just think about an opposing team having to put a #3 DB on Mason? Mason picked up 100 grabs facing opponents #1 or #2 DB all year. that coupled with our tight ends and running backs and we very well could now have the most explosive offense in the league.

Don't let Cincy get him.

Bring in Housh!

EDIT: latest update on whats going on with Housh:

The Minneapolis Star Tribune reported that nothing had happened between the Vikings and Houshmanzadeh a half hour before the roster deadline. It was likely other teams were interested in Houshmanzadeh and his handlers wanted to hear all offers before cutting a deal.

You make a good arguement and I'm starting to agree with you. With Housh being cut, Oz could sign him very cheap since he'll still get paid by the Seahawks.

[StingerNLG]

I always wonder why only 53 too. But you can believe if there is ever a 18 game season the NFLPA will push for a bigger roster and a bigger active roster on gamedays.

I would think this would have to be a condition to the league expanding the regular season by 2 games. Covers injuries and depth issues that arise from it.

The problem is NFLPA would have though is that players would ultimately make less money. Hell, we would have seen the last of Darelle Revis if that were the case.

[jonboy79]

You make a good arguement and I'm starting to agree with you. With Housh being cut, Oz could sign him very cheap since he'll still get paid by the Seahawks.

It's not a horrible idea, I just think Housh will want to start.

[Sirdowski]

It's not a horrible idea, I just think Housh will want to start.

And why couldn't he? Masons abililty to run routes could really open him up down field despite his speed when/if facing a number 3 corner. Mason has been a pass catching machine, cosistent years of 1000yd seasons, multiple 2000yd seasons from scrimmage he's got his share of balls thrown his way. If he wanted to complain about Housh starting over him he would be contradicting the reason be came back, to help win a Superbowl. The biggest reason I think Oz won't get him is his attitude. There was an incident where a radio host was fired because he called housh a racist for allegedly calling him a "punk ass white boy" only one incident, but if true speaks miles of his character, something the ravens are big on.

[jonboy79]

And why couldn't he? Masons abililty to run routes could really open him up down field despite his speed when/if facing a number 3 corner. Mason has been a pass catching machine, cosistent years of 1000yd seasons, multiple 2000yd seasons from scrimmage he's got his share of balls thrown his way. If he wanted to complain about Housh starting over him he would be contradicting the reason be came back, to help win a Superbowl. The biggest reason I think Oz won't get him is his attitude. There was an incident where a radio host was fired because he called housh a racist for allegedly calling him a "punk ass white boy" only one incident, but if true speaks miles of his character, something the ravens are big on.

Because Mason is a better player.
You make the argument that he could move inside as Housh comes in on the outside as third receiver, but with only 2 receivers on the field there is no question who I'd rather have on the field. It's not TJ.

[Sirdowski]

Because Mason is a better player.
You make the argument that he could move inside as Housh comes in on the outside as third receiver, but with only 2 receivers on the field there is no question who I'd rather have on the field. It's not TJ.

So monday night were running against the jets, were running out of I-form twins. Tight end lines up next to the right tackle and the two receivers line up next to each other on the weak side. Your telling me you'd rather have mason in over Housh? With Boldin and Housh's ability to run block that's a scary formation. I'm not saying put Mason inside, that's foolish. When in run packages such as the one I used as an example, I want Housh as the number 2 receiver I don't care how much better you think mason is.

[Beerracuda]

Curtis Steele resigned to the Practice Squad, per Aaron Wilson's twitter.

[jonboy79]

So monday night were running against the jets, were running out of I-form twins. Tight end lines up next to the right tackle and the two receivers line up next to each other on the weak side. Your telling me you'd rather have mason in over Housh? With Boldin and Housh's ability to run block that's a scary formation. I'm not saying put Mason inside, that's foolish. When in run packages such as the one I used as an example, I want Housh as the number 2 receiver I don't care how much better you think mason is.

In that one, specific example I'd jsut rather have another TE. As a total package that comes with a WR, I prefer Mason.

[Dade]

It's not a horrible idea, I just think Housh will want to start.

That's probably why it wont happen.